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      04-08-2010, 10:51 AM   #1
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V4 log 65%UT 50%IC

This is a log of 3rd and 4th done today. Ambiant temp outside was 68deg. As title stated UT is set at 65% and IC is at 50%. Mods in sig. Let me know what you all think. The pull to me felt nice and strong. Personaly I would like a little less boost tapper...HINT HINT Shiv. All in all the new beta maps feel real good

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Boost is so steady and smooth. Did you do any logs with a higher IC%?

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You need more octane for that level of boost IMO. Your ignition advance is dropping pretty low. What octane gas were you running?
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Wow ut65 is pretty high for just regular pump gas. Your running 17.5 psi which IMO should only be used with meth and race gas
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jesus thats a lot of boost for 65% UT. i dont think im seeing that much at 70?
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It depends which maps op is running. The 4-1 it scaling is more agressive than 4-5. But anyhow 17.5 on pump gas is nuts
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What are you're mods. If this was on pump, im surprised your running as much timing as you are. Either way you are running to aggressive and the timing is showing this for sure. 3 degrees of timing? You should never fall below 7-8imo
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What are you're mods. If this was on pump, im surprised your running as much timing as you are. Either way you are running to aggressive and the timing is showing this for sure. 3 degrees of timing? You should never fall below 7-8imo
Im running the 2-23 maps stage 2 with IC at 100% on fully stock car with 98ron Shell V-power .
On most of my logs the ignition curve ramps from 7-8 degree at start of pull to 12.5 degrees at redline. Sometimes its 10 degrees all the way, only before redline it goes up a litlle.

When i look at this log and many of shiv's logs , they ramp up from 3-4 degree at start of the pull to 12-13 near redline.

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Im running the 2-23 maps stage 2 with IC at 100% on fully stock car with 98ron Shell V-power .
On most of my logs the ignition curve ramps from 7-8 degree at start of pull to 12.5 degrees at redline. Sometimes its 10 degrees all the way, only before redline it goes up a litlle.

When i look at this log and many of shiv's logs , they ramp up from 3-4 degree at start of the pull to 12-13 near redline.

Thats because these logs are too agressive. Shivs track logs are all out balls to wall track logs....as long as it doenst knock, its good. Your ignition is what a DD would want to run. Here is an example of mine.
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Thats because these logs are too agressive. Shivs track logs are all out balls to wall track logs....as long as it doenst knock, its good. Your ignition is what a DD would want to run. Here is an example of mine.
But wich ignition curve is the most powerful ? The one that advances 7-8 degree around 4000 RPM or the one that advances 3-4 degree at 4000RPM?

Cause i'm looking for max power , and i can agree that as long as it isn't showing knock signs , it should be ok?

I'm datalogging alot these days to see if i can stay in stage 2 settings now that the weather is getting warmer.
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so the consensus would be to back her off. I was more of the impression that if I wasn't seeing knock or the ignition drop out that I was okay. Yeah most the time all I see is shiv's logs and that is where I got the lower timing in my head. I'll drop to 60% UT and see how it looks. I'm running 93 oct. by the way. Thanks for the input!!!!
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What maps are you running. Are you running the beta maps??
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yeah I'm running the latest pro4v008 firmware and running 4-5(2nd try) AT maps. I have been looking at shiv's logs as kinda a guide to wher timing should be. In 4th gear I'm starting at 3deg and toping out at 13deg of timing. What should I be starting and finishing at?
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yeah I'm running the latest pro4v008 firmware and running 4-5(2nd try) AT maps. I have been looking at shiv's logs as kinda a guide to wher timing should be. In 4th gear I'm starting at 3deg and toping out at 13deg of timing. What should I be starting and finishing at?

Well if im correct your 50% IC makes that your procede adds 2-3 degree of extra retard to the can DME ign advance. So if you would have dialed it to 0% your curve should have been better ??

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Well if im correct your 50% IC makes that your procede adds 2-3 degree of extra retard to the can DME ign advance. So if you would have dialed it to 0% your curve should have been better ??

i believe it goes the other way
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i believe it goes the other way
Can you show your datalog again with can actual advance , DME advance and ign correction plotted?
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I do not have DME advance, but i added ignition correction

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I do not have DME advance, but i added ignition correction

CAN actual should be CAN DME - Ignition correction . So in my opinion if you dialed it to 0% IC your curve would start around 6-7 degree advance.

At least thats how i see it in my logs. My can DME is almost always higher then 10 degree advance but because my IC is at 100% It retards by 3-4 degree from 4000 on .
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For the newest maps, on 93 octane I'm not going over 55%UT (15.5 Boost target)and 50%IC. I would want meth flowing at 65-70% UT and less than 50% IC.

Thanks for posting the data.
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For the newest maps, on 93 octane I'm not going over 55%UT (15.5 Boost target)and 50%IC. I would want meth flowing at 65-70% UT and less than 50% IC.

Thanks for posting the data.
Well from my experience it all depends on temperatures , with good gas and doing testing at night with a warmed up engine but cool iat's , you can do alot.

Making a agressive tuning won't be consistent , so it's important to datalog frequently.

If you want to make serious consistent power then meth and a good FMIC are absolutely a must.
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CAN actual should be CAN DME - Ignition correction . So in my opinion if you dialed it to 0% IC your curve would start around 6-7 degree advance.

At least thats how i see it in my logs. My can DME is almost always higher then 10 degree advance but because my IC is at 100% It retards by 3-4 degree from 4000 on .
i follow now what your saying. Maybe Shiv will chim in.
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Is there a version 8 of firmware available with 4-5maps?? Why the one I have came along with 4-5 zipped file is version 7? Is that the V08 coming with 4-5(2nd)???
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