[blauner335]

I am about to put some KW V1x coilovers on early next week and ordered the M3 rear subframe bushings to do along with it. I am just trying to prepare ahead of time and was wondering how difficult these bushings will be to install and if I will need any special tools? I searched around but couldnt really find any definitive answers to my questions. Thanks for all your help, looking forward to less body roll.

[uberschnell]

This is not a DIY, unless you own a shop with access to portable hydraulic press and rack.

[zsapphire7]

def recommend a shop do it too. The coilovers ull be fine but the subframe bushings is a different story...

[cpt97m3]

Originally Posted by blauner335

I am about to put some KW V1x coilovers on early next week and ordered the M3 rear subframe bushings to do along with it. I am just trying to prepare ahead of time and was wondering how difficult these bushings will be to install and if I will need any special tools? I searched around but couldnt really find any definitive answers to my questions. Thanks for all your help, looking forward to less body roll.

I did mine at home. It's a lot of work, but mostly just time consuming. I used an E36 subframe bushing tool with great success. It wasn't a perfect fit, but I got it to work OK. I did not use a press or any hydraulics. I'm glad I did, since the M3 bushings make the rear end feel much more precise.

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by cpt97m3

I did mine at home. It's a lot of work, but mostly just time consuming. I used an E36 subframe bushing tool with great success. It wasn't a perfect fit, but I got it to work OK. I did not use a press or any hydraulics. I'm glad I did, since the M3 bushings make the rear end feel much more precise.

Something like this? http://www.zdmak.com/wbstore/main.as...BMW3026&CTMP=1

or this:

http://www.zdmak.com/wbstore/main.as...CTMP=1&LowCt=0

[cpt97m3]

I used the 3026 tool, which is your first link. I borrowed it from a friend.

[blauner335]

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Looks like I will be taking it to a shop after I install the coilovers to get the bushings in. Should I assume about 4-5 hours install time for the bushings? I am guessing about 4 hours for the coilovers.

And even though I already know the answer, I will ask the question anyway. Is it really worth it to put the bushings in? For all the labor/parts, it will be pretty expensive.

[Kevin@AKMotorwerk]

Originally Posted by blauner335

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Looks like I will be taking it to a shop after I install the coilovers to get the bushings in. Should I assume about 4-5 hours install time for the bushings? I am guessing about 4 hours for the coilovers.

And even though I already know the answer, I will ask the question anyway. Is it really worth it to put the bushings in? For all the labor/parts, it will be pretty expensive.

its about 6-7 hours labor for subframe bushing install.

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by Kevin@AKMotorwerk

its about 6-7 hours labor for subframe bushing install.

Depends on the shop what they will charge. I was told 5.5 to 6 hours for the entire (front and rear) M3 suspension bit kit that Tischer sells, including the bushings.

A lot of shops that work almost entirely on discretionary spending car modifications, have come down on labor, especially if you get the parts through them. Deflation in action.

[raceyBMW]

6-7 hours for the subframe bushings???? Are they that difficult to install? On most BMWs if you have the correct "beer can removal" tool, the subframe bushings are a pretty quick job.

[stressdoc]

These bushings are a bitch. IMO the job is easiest with the subframe out. If you are going in there and have any thoughts of installing a rear sway bar then definitely do them both at the same time.

Brian MN recently did his, and could provide useful input.

[blauner335]

If these things are this difficult, then I def wont be trying to install them myself. I think the plan will be for me to install the coilovers next week, and then make an appointment with TischerBMW to have them install the rear bushings and a M3 rear sway bar since I will be in Columbia, MD in a few weeks anyways for some training. Thanks for everyones help!

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by blauner335

If these things are this difficult, then I def wont be trying to install them myself. I think the plan will be for me to install the coilovers next week, and then make an appointment with TischerBMW to have them install the rear bushings and a M3 rear sway bar since I will be in Columbia, MD in a few weeks anyways for some training. Thanks for everyones help!

Call Atspeedmotorsports -410.712.4290

They are an Dinan auth installer, and their lead tech Rich has done the full m3 suspension bit upgrade. They may even get the parts cheaper for you. Worth a call. They are in the columbia area:

Rt 29 to 100. Exit off 100 onto Coca Cola Drive, Exit 8 towards Park Circle Drive. Turn Left on Coca Cola Drive. Countine for about 1 mile, turn right into 7400-7410 Coca Cola Drive Building. Follow around to the left and down behind Building 7410. We are located at Unit 110.

http://atspeedmotorsports.com/