-= CIC Navigation Retrofit and more =-

Patrys@BimmerTech · 06-08-2010, 08:38 AM

The complete solution to retrofit the latest Navigation system (CIC) in E9x and E6x vehicles.
Based exclusively on OEM parts and OEM activation.

The E60 Basic CIC Retrofit Kit (the E9x version includes the same parts):

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Read it first:
I am proud to announce I am the only vendor offering the CIC Retrofit Kits based exclusively on OEM parts and OEM activation.
However, If you are thinking of working with somebody else who says that can do it for you please note that the installation of all parts in your car is just the first step to retrofit the CIC successfully.
The most important is to activate the Navigation and code the car in order to make sure that all modules can work with each other and with the CIC.
I have installed many CIC retrofits in cars produced from 2004 and there have been major differences in how these cars reacted to the CIC
and how they had to be coded and programmed in order to make sure that all car options were compatible with the CIC.

OEM Activation of the Navigation vs. Aftermarket module

The way I activation the Navigation and/or the Voice Control is fully OEM.
It means I buy special activation codes from BMW (VIN specific) and load them into the CIC as well as change the VIN in the CIC to match your VIN.
The cost of the codes is pretty high, so that's a reason why the complete OEM kit is more expensive than the aftermarket one.

If you find other people/companies offering cheaper CIC retrofit kits you might expect an aftermarket "activation" of the Navigation and Voice Control.

What does the aftermarket "activation" mean?
There is a module which can be installed in a car to tamper the communication between the CIC and the rest of the car.
The CIC includes the VIN of a car it comes from as well as the activation codes for that VIN, so if you buy a used CIC the VIN stored inside it does not match your VIN and the codes do not match your VIN either.
My OEM activation is to load your VIN and your codes (received from BMW AG) into the CIC the same way BMW does it.

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The aftermarket module:
I know there are people who always look for more affordable solution and I do not blame them for that, but before you decide to use an aftermarket solution just think about the consequences.
-> Do you really want to have an aftermarket hardware in your BMW?

-> The aftermarket solution is obviously not approved by BMW, because it is hacking of their system. You cannot be sure if there are any side effects and how your car will be running.

-> Think about updating the map - you will have to give your dealership the VIN of the car the CIC comes from. If the car is from Europe or some other region it might be difficult to order the US map.

-> What if BMW releases a new software version for your car that will make this module useless?

-> My DVD-in-motion activation does not tamper the speed read by the CIC, but the module does it. It means your CIC will "think" you drive very slowly all the time while you might be doing 80mph.
Your CIC should know your speed to calculate your position if there is no GPS signal.

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My experience is something you cannot underestimate, so please have a look at the below testimonials before you decide who you would like to work with:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=981

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419641

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=31

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...ml#post1864579

http://forums.5series.net/topic/1092...cic-retrofits/

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The Basic CIC Retrofit Kit includes:
- CIC head unit
- CID High Definition screen
- iDrive controller
- CID power connector
- CID video cable
- CIC trim
- USB cable
- USB port
- Navigation FSC codes
- Navigation map
- Complete coding
- DVD-in-motion activated

It comes with the Navigation FSC codes loaded (navigation is fully activated) and the CIC is coded for the vehicle specification.
The Voice Control can also be activated, but it's not included in the basic kit.

E9x vehicles
If you already have the old Navigation installed in your car the basic kit is all you need. Optionally you can buy the center console trim if you want to fit the new iDrive controller, but the old one will work just fine.

If you do not have the Navigation system at all you will need to change your dashboard and a few other parts. Please contact me for more details.

E6x vehicles
For all E6x vehicles the basic kit is all you need.
Those of you without the old Navigation might also need one dashboard trim.

Success cases:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159604

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...pictorial.html

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...ation-log.html

Pricing:
NEW DISCOUNTED PRICING INTRODUCED ON THE 14TH OF APRIL 2011.
PLEASE CONTACT US FOR DETAILS.

WE ALSO OFFER THE AFTERMARKET ACTIVATION (PER REQUEST ONLY), WHICH MAKES THE CIC RETROFIT EVEN MORE AFFORDABLE.

The price depends on a few factors, so please contact me for more details ONLY by email at info@bimmer-tech.net and include your VIN.

The limitations of the CIC retrofit:
- no HD Radio in the US (the CIC is the Euro spec, the brand new US spec CIC is 600Euro extra)
- if your car was produced before September 2008 and you would like to have the car software updated by your dealership you will have to put your old CCC or Radio back in the car (it takes around 20 minutes to do the swap). According to BMW cars produced before the CIC was introduced could not have the CIC installed.

The E6x set:

The E9x set installed:

The CIC installed:

The new iDrive controller installed:

The main menu screen:

The Tire Pressure Monitor screen:

The PDC screen:

The DVD-in-motion activated (special offer):

srcstc · 06-08-2010, 11:24 AM

BUMP for a great new sponsor!!
Patryk has helped me out a ton with my retrofit. Great guy and very knowledgeable!!

-Rich

cuban335i · 06-08-2010, 11:42 AM

hi can you PM me a price for everything shipped to new jersey except the dashboard and trim for a/c and center speaker

Steveo · 06-08-2010, 02:55 PM

Another thumbs up to Patryk who has just coded by DVD in motion tonight, and has coded my retrofit CIC. Fantastic and thoroughly recommended

ultimateendz · 06-08-2010, 03:06 PM

o i am soooooo getting this done

vfeng · 06-08-2010, 03:13 PM

oh damn, i hope you keep this going for a while longer as i'll need to save up for this haha

Sal@AUTOcouture · 06-08-2010, 06:04 PM

Very interesting. I was told by a good friend that works for BMW that this retrofit would not work. Any members have this in their car working successfully?

srcstc · 06-08-2010, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sal@AUTOcouture

Very interesting. I was told by a good friend that works for BMW that this retrofit would not work. Any members have this in their car working successfully?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159604

Look at the last few pages Sal.

Rich

Patrys@BimmerTech · 06-08-2010, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sal@AUTOcouture

Very interesting. I was told by a good friend that works for BMW that this retrofit would not work. Any members have this in their car working successfully?

Sure, there are already a few people on this forum that have it installed and working.
Just see posts #2 and #4 in this thread.

phistyle · 06-09-2010, 12:36 PM

neato...can I send me a PM price for retrofitting idrive navigation into my 2007 e92 335i?

Patrys@BimmerTech · 06-09-2010, 05:22 PM

All PMs replied

delicoke · 06-11-2010, 02:58 PM

OMG. Thank you. You're god!!!

I have a question
CIC Japanese version available?

2008 E92 M3 (6MT)

Patrys@BimmerTech · 06-11-2010, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delicoke

OMG. Thank you. You're god!!!

I have a question
CIC Japanese version available?

2008 E92 M3 (6MT)

Send me an email with your VIN and we will try to work something out for you

Patrys@BimmerTech · 06-13-2010, 05:07 PM

I updated the first post with a few new pictures

._. · 06-13-2010, 06:49 PM

this retrofit would block BMW software updates?

VTECaddict · 06-13-2010, 06:59 PM

wowowowowow

If only I had the extra cash.

Patrys@BimmerTech · 06-14-2010, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r45t4m4n

this retrofit would block BMW software updates?

If your car production date is on or after 09/2008 then you are fine with the software uppdates, otherwise you need to put your old Navigation or Radio back for programming.
It takes 20 minutes to replace the CIC with the CCC/Radio, so it's not really a problem.

Patrys@BimmerTech · 06-14-2010, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTECaddict

wowowowowow

If only I had the extra cash.

It's not a cheap mod, but you can do it in stages starting with ordering the FCS codes and following with the purchase of the parts.

lpphreakx06 · 06-14-2010, 02:50 AM

Wow great work!

Hedges · 06-14-2010, 07:45 AM

I would love to get this, any instructions or step by step for installation if i bring this to a shop to set it up?

Patrys@BimmerTech · 06-14-2010, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedges

I would love to get this, any instructions or step by step for installation if i bring this to a shop to set it up?

Sure, you will get an instruction from me and my full support to go through the installation smoothly.

MOTO69JOE · 06-14-2010, 01:25 PM

Do you offer installation? I'm nearby. I bet it's hella expensive for everything?

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Patrys@BimmerTech Banned 632 Rep 2,013 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Warsaw/Poland iTrader: (7)	-= CIC Navigation Retrofit and more =- The complete solution to retrofit the latest Navigation system (CIC) in E9x and E6x vehicles. Based exclusively on OEM parts and OEM activation. The E60 Basic CIC Retrofit Kit (the E9x version includes the same parts): #################################### Read it first: I am proud to announce I am the only vendor offering the CIC Retrofit Kits based exclusively on OEM parts and OEM activation. However, If you are thinking of working with somebody else who says that can do it for you please note that the installation of all parts in your car is just the first step to retrofit the CIC successfully. The most important is to activate the Navigation and code the car in order to make sure that all modules can work with each other and with the CIC. I have installed many CIC retrofits in cars produced from 2004 and there have been major differences in how these cars reacted to the CIC and how they had to be coded and programmed in order to make sure that all car options were compatible with the CIC. OEM Activation of the Navigation vs. Aftermarket module The way I activation the Navigation and/or the Voice Control is fully OEM. It means I buy special activation codes from BMW (VIN specific) and load them into the CIC as well as change the VIN in the CIC to match your VIN. The cost of the codes is pretty high, so that's a reason why the complete OEM kit is more expensive than the aftermarket one. If you find other people/companies offering cheaper CIC retrofit kits you might expect an aftermarket "activation" of the Navigation and Voice Control. What does the aftermarket "activation" mean? There is a module which can be installed in a car to tamper the communication between the CIC and the rest of the car. The CIC includes the VIN of a car it comes from as well as the activation codes for that VIN, so if you buy a used CIC the VIN stored inside it does not match your VIN and the codes do not match your VIN either. My OEM activation is to load your VIN and your codes (received from BMW AG) into the CIC the same way BMW does it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The aftermarket module: I know there are people who always look for more affordable solution and I do not blame them for that, but before you decide to use an aftermarket solution just think about the consequences. -> Do you really want to have an aftermarket hardware in your BMW? -> The aftermarket solution is obviously not approved by BMW, because it is hacking of their system. You cannot be sure if there are any side effects and how your car will be running. -> Think about updating the map - you will have to give your dealership the VIN of the car the CIC comes from. If the car is from Europe or some other region it might be difficult to order the US map. -> What if BMW releases a new software version for your car that will make this module useless? -> My DVD-in-motion activation does not tamper the speed read by the CIC, but the module does it. It means your CIC will "think" you drive very slowly all the time while you might be doing 80mph. Your CIC should know your speed to calculate your position if there is no GPS signal. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- My experience is something you cannot underestimate, so please have a look at the below testimonials before you decide who you would like to work with: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=981 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419641 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=31 http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...ml#post1864579 http://forums.5series.net/topic/1092...cic-retrofits/ #################################### The Basic CIC Retrofit Kit includes: - CIC head unit - CID High Definition screen - iDrive controller - CID power connector - CID video cable - CIC trim - USB cable - USB port - Navigation FSC codes - Navigation map - Complete coding - DVD-in-motion activated It comes with the Navigation FSC codes loaded (navigation is fully activated) and the CIC is coded for the vehicle specification. The Voice Control can also be activated, but it's not included in the basic kit. E9x vehicles If you already have the old Navigation installed in your car the basic kit is all you need. Optionally you can buy the center console trim if you want to fit the new iDrive controller, but the old one will work just fine. If you do not have the Navigation system at all you will need to change your dashboard and a few other parts. Please contact me for more details. E6x vehicles For all E6x vehicles the basic kit is all you need. Those of you without the old Navigation might also need one dashboard trim. Success cases: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159604 http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...pictorial.html http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...ation-log.html Pricing: NEW DISCOUNTED PRICING INTRODUCED ON THE 14TH OF APRIL 2011. PLEASE CONTACT US FOR DETAILS. WE ALSO OFFER THE AFTERMARKET ACTIVATION (PER REQUEST ONLY), WHICH MAKES THE CIC RETROFIT EVEN MORE AFFORDABLE. The price depends on a few factors, so please contact me for more details ONLY by email at info@bimmer-tech.net and include your VIN. The limitations of the CIC retrofit: - no HD Radio in the US (the CIC is the Euro spec, the brand new US spec CIC is 600Euro extra) - if your car was produced before September 2008 and you would like to have the car software updated by your dealership you will have to put your old CCC or Radio back in the car (it takes around 20 minutes to do the swap). According to BMW cars produced before the CIC was introduced could not have the CIC installed. The E6x set: The E9x set installed: The CIC installed: The new iDrive controller installed: The main menu screen: The Tire Pressure Monitor screen: The PDC screen: The DVD-in-motion activated (special offer): Last edited by Patrys@BimmerTech; 04-20-2011 at 05:29 AM..
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