Estimate WHP?

cooperlee · 06-23-2010, 11:39 PM

Have catless dp, bmw cai, full exhaust, jb3 (2.0) map 3, 93oct. I was wondering what kind of whp I'm roughly getting? I havent had any CEL light or limp modes in map 3 for 1500 miles so debating if this setting is safer to run as I used to get more limp modes under Map 5..... Any thoughts or experiences with your car? Thx

hun77777 · 06-23-2010, 11:53 PM

rough estimate would be anywhere between 260whp to 550whp depending on your dyno...

Jonny550 · 06-24-2010, 12:26 AM

On map 7 380-390 whp
map5 360-380
map3 340-360

Map8 400-410 whp.with race gas 410-420. with a FMIC 430 with race gas with meth 440 whp.

john boxter · 06-24-2010, 12:39 AM

i think those numbers are very generous considering no intercooler and no downpipes even with downpipes and an intercooler 380 whp on map 5 is not likely

Jonny550 · 06-24-2010, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by john boxter

i think those numbers are very generous considering no intercooler and no downpipes even with downpipes and an intercooler 380 whp on map 5 is not likely

ya i guess under perfect conditions these numbers seem to be right but thats why i give some leeway so anywhere from 360-380 seems about right.

thwgw24 · 06-24-2010, 01:14 AM

343 whp

uberschnell · 06-24-2010, 01:30 AM

Whats a BMW CAI?

Ron1n · 06-24-2010, 01:31 AM

Cold Air Intake

uberschnell · 06-24-2010, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron1n

Cold Air Intake

Figured the CAI part, question is, is BMW making an aftermarket CAI now

Brey335i · 06-24-2010, 01:49 AM

BMW CAI?

That must add 100 hp

fruition3000 · 06-24-2010, 01:52 AM

If it helps any. Drivetrain loss on our RWD cars is around 15-17 percent. The AWD version might be upwards of 20-22 percent

Malaka1 · 06-24-2010, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon335iFL

On map 7 380-390 whp
map5 360-380
map3 340-360

Map8 400-410 whp.with race gas 410-420. with a FMIC 430 with race gas with meth 440 whp.

Map 8? can you even run that without race gas?

fruition3000 · 06-24-2010, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon335iFL

On map 7 380-390 whp
map5 360-380
map3 340-360

Map8 400-410 whp.with race gas 410-420. with a FMIC 430 with race gas with meth 440 whp.

380whp = 444fwhp
390whp = 456fwhp
440whp = 514fwhp

.....seems a bit exaggerated to me

OpenFlash · 06-24-2010, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fruition3000

380whp = 444fwhp
390whp = 456fwhp
440whp = 514fwhp

.....seems a bit exaggerated to me

Just a little

enrita · 06-24-2010, 02:10 AM

315 REAL whp is my bet.

cooperlee · 06-24-2010, 11:01 AM

oops my bad...i meant to say BMW Intake and also I have AMS Intercooler as well. I am figuring somewhere in the neighborhood of 340-350whp. I will try to get it dyno the difference between map 3 and 5 as the car seems to be running limp modeless in map 3 for now... hahahah

Jonny550 · 06-24-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fruition3000

380whp = 444fwhp
390whp = 456fwhp
440whp = 514fwhp

.....seems a bit exaggerated to me

Not really look at shiv's and terry's bone stock 3's and 1's dyno's. Their putting about 350-360 whp just with a tune and an intake and from my personal experience i put down 367 on map 7 intake and a muffler delete in 98 degree florida heat.however after 3 pulls it went down to 355 due to no FMIC i would guess.

enrita · 06-24-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cooperlee

oops my bad...i meant to say BMW Intake and also I have AMS Intercooler as well. I am figuring somewhere in the neighborhood of 340-350whp. I will try to get it dyno the difference between map 3 and 5 as the car seems to be running limp modeless in map 3 for now... hahahah

You should run map 5 min with your mods. Get a nice intake a go map 7.

enrita · 06-24-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TrackRat

Who's "REAL whp" are we using -- mine, yours, his, their's or somebody else's ?

i mean Mustang type dyno hps. Dynojet add 15 % .

ar design · 06-24-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TrackRat

For REAL HP numbers you need to use an accurate engine dyno run by a competent dyno technician to SAE test standards. Trying to compare bogus chassis dyno data is a waste of time. That's why I asked who's REAL HP we were using. I still think my 14,000 HP estimate is more accurate than a chassis dyno.

Agreed. Chassis dynos are just tools to measure % increase/gains. Without a baseline, chassis dynos are useless. I am sure you can find a DynoJet (or tweak one) that will read out 350whp on a stock 335i......

fruition3000 · 06-24-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon335iFL

Not really look at shiv's and terry's bone stock 3's and 1's dyno's. Their putting about 350-360 whp just with a tune and an intake and from my personal experience i put down 367 on map 7 intake and a muffler delete in 98 degree florida heat.however after 3 pulls it went down to 355 due to no FMIC i would guess.

mhmm so what u are saying is DPs, FMIC, meth and race gas adds over 80 WHP after the chip? Very hard to believe my friend

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Jonny550 Brigadier General 263 Rep 4,936 Posts Drives: 2012 550i Xdrive Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jersey Shore iTrader: (14)	On map 7 380-390 whp map5 360-380 map3 340-360 Map8 400-410 whp.with race gas 410-420. with a FMIC 430 with race gas with meth 440 whp. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] .
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john boxter Captain 39 Rep 763 Posts Drives: 2008 e93 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: long Island New York iTrader: (3)	i think those numbers are very generous considering no intercooler and no downpipes even with downpipes and an intercooler 380 whp on map 5 is not likely
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cooperlee First Lieutenant 66 Rep 348 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York iTrader: (3)	oops my bad...i meant to say BMW Intake and also I have AMS Intercooler as well. I am figuring somewhere in the neighborhood of 340-350whp. I will try to get it dyno the difference between map 3 and 5 as the car seems to be running limp modeless in map 3 for now... hahahah
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