Which tune for a E93 slug? JB+ or JB3

e93WhiteonRed · 07-07-2010, 11:21 AM

I just put a BMS DCI on my 2007 E93 MT. I want to get some more grunt to help this slug out of the hole but cant decide between the JB+ or JB3. The main reason I cant decide is because I dont ever plan on going above Map 3 if I go with the JB3 and am wondering if I can get the same amount of GO by just getting the JB+. Any thoughts? Any prior experience from E93 drivers?

I dont want to throw any codes because I've got 12 months left on my warranty.

Thanks!

ultimateendz · 07-07-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by e93WhiteonRed

I just put a BMS DCI on my 2007 E93 MT. I want to get some more grunt to help this slug out of the hole but cant decide between the JB+ or JB3. The main reason I cant decide is because I dont ever plan on going above Map 3 if I go with the JB3 and am wondering if I can get the same amount of GO by just getting the JB+. Any thoughts? Any prior experience from E93 drivers?

I dont want to throw any codes because I've got 12 months left on my warranty.

Thanks!

hey man...we e93ers arent all slugs...ive done a 12.81 @ 111mph...u can too

...going in for a turbo upgrade in a week

roadkillrob · 07-07-2010, 11:42 AM

I started with an SSTT the went to a JB3 in my E93, eventually got sick of opening up the ECU box each time new software came out and reprogramming etc, but power was nice - typically ran map4/5 with 93. Eventually went to a GIAC flash and have been happy ever since - isn't as fast as the JB3, but the way the flash makes power feels better on the bottom end in my book - I like it better for everyday cruising in he vert!

ultimateendz · 07-07-2010, 12:05 PM

plus our cars are somewhat sleepers if modded properly...

...not to say mine is in anyway...

Bimmer335i07 · 07-07-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ultimateendz

plus our cars are somewhat sleepers if modded properly...

...not to say mine is in anyway...

Yeah, I can vouche that this black man's car will be SUPER quick. Definitely a sleeper, until he gets his cosmetic mods. lol!

But to answer the OPs question, just get the JB3. Trust me, if you get the JB+, you will eventually want more power. So, why not just do it right the first time around.

Ajvar · 07-07-2010, 12:20 PM

jb3!!!!!

Blk07335i · 07-07-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajvar

jb3!!!!!

JB3! You won't regret it especially with 2.0 and the latest updates Terry has sent out.

5soko · 07-07-2010, 12:53 PM

JB3

mechanixhorseman · 07-07-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by roadkillrob

I started with an SSTT the went to a JB3 in my E93, eventually got sick of opening up the ECU box each time new software came out and reprogramming etc, but power was nice - typically ran map4/5 with 93. Eventually went to a GIAC flash and have been happy ever since - isn't as fast as the JB3, but the way the flash makes power feels better on the bottom end in my book - I like it better for everyday cruising in he vert!

Why didn't you just run the USB cable through the firewall into the glove box? Takes like 5 min if you've already got everything open and doesn't require any cutting, drilling or modification of any sort. I didn't even have to disconnect my DME.

e93WhiteonRed · 07-07-2010, 01:59 PM

Sold. Literally, buying the JB3 right now. When I put on my DCI the other day I took the whole Cowl off just to see how much of a pain it would be if I needed to remove the tune and it was easy. Mechanixhorseman - good call on just running the USB cable through the firewall.

Should I buy the BT tool if I'm just going to keep it on Map 3?

e93WhiteonRed · 07-07-2010, 02:03 PM

Ultimateendz what did you do to get a 12.81?

lawwailok · 07-07-2010, 02:15 PM

its good to have a BT tool handy.... besides, BMS has the JB3 and BT cable bundle deal to save you some money

ultimateendz · 07-07-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by e93WhiteonRed

Ultimateendz what did you do to get a 12.81?

jb3 map - 8 no adaptaion time
100 oct 1/4 tank
ar catless downpipes
helix intercooler
ae catless exhaust
full m3 suspension
toyo r888 in the rear

prob had about a 12.5-12.6 in me if i could have ran some more....here is the link to my run....i come on at about 3:22

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like i said...we are not that slow...just need to stay 1 mod ahead of the e92/e90 guys...thats all...

....after my turbo upgrade this month im gonna shoot to be the first e93 in the 11s

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-07-2010, 02:26 PM

I would go with the JB3. Its the more advanced tune and on map3 you should be pretty safe safe code wise. Power delivery will be stronger and smoother then the JB+.

The JB+ also comes with a 6-momnth upgrade policy so you can get that and then upgrade to the JB3 PnP and get a full refund on the purchase price of the JB+.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Mike

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-07-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by e93WhiteonRed

Sold. Literally, buying the JB3 right now. When I put on my DCI the other day I took the whole Cowl off just to see how much of a pain it would be if I needed to remove the tune and it was easy. Mechanixhorseman - good call on just running the USB cable through the firewall.

Should I buy the BT tool if I'm just going to keep it on Map 3?

The JB3/BT Combo is a great deal especially with the FREE Shipping promo so I would say go for it. The added 120.00 for the BT tool is worth the peace of mind.

Here is more info on the combo.
http://www.n54tuning.com/index.php?_...d&productId=40

Mike

e93WhiteonRed · 07-07-2010, 02:46 PM

I guess to rephrase... has anyone ever thrown a code using Map 3? I understand piece of mind, but if it just doesn't happen I'd rather just take my chances.

ultimateendz · 07-07-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by e93WhiteonRed

I guess to rephrase... has anyone ever thrown a code using Map 3? I understand piece of mind, but if it just doesn't happen I'd rather just take my chances.

dont think i ever have...only codes i really throw are the hpfp ones when mine is about to take a crap...occasional overboost code every now and then but its only when im doing 155+ during "testing"

ModBargains.com · 07-07-2010, 03:06 PM

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e93WhiteonRed · 07-07-2010, 03:16 PM

Better safe than sorry. Just bought the BT tool package and had it added onto my JB3 order. I guess I can do some higher maps now and not have to worry. I'll go run it at MIR in Maryland and post some results. Thanks for the help!

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-07-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by e93WhiteonRed

Better safe than sorry. Just bought the BT tool package and had it added onto my JB3 order. I guess I can do some higher maps now and not have to worry. I'll go run it at MIR in Maryland and post some results. Thanks for the help!

Congrats on the purchase. I am sure you will love the JB3!!

Mike

245 sleeper · 07-07-2010, 05:53 PM

you will be happy with jb3. I did 12.92 @ 109 (map 7) W/ 100 OCT, DCI and on the street tire.

kennejp · 07-07-2010, 10:16 PM

I have not had the jb+ but I know you wont regret the jb3 because mods are addictive and you will regret not getting the jb3 after a few months when the fastness wears off and you want to turn it up or mod more. Just my .02

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e93WhiteonRed Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 267 Posts Drives: 2007 E93 Alpine white with Red Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reston, Virginia iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 335I E93 [0.00]	Which tune for a E93 slug? JB+ or JB3 I just put a BMS DCI on my 2007 E93 MT. I want to get some more grunt to help this slug out of the hole but cant decide between the JB+ or JB3. The main reason I cant decide is because I dont ever plan on going above Map 3 if I go with the JB3 and am wondering if I can get the same amount of GO by just getting the JB+. Any thoughts? Any prior experience from E93 drivers? I dont want to throw any codes because I've got 12 months left on my warranty. Thanks!
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e93WhiteonRed Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 267 Posts Drives: 2007 E93 Alpine white with Red Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reston, Virginia iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 335I E93 [0.00]	Sold. Literally, buying the JB3 right now. When I put on my DCI the other day I took the whole Cowl off just to see how much of a pain it would be if I needed to remove the tune and it was easy. Mechanixhorseman - good call on just running the USB cable through the firewall. Should I buy the BT tool if I'm just going to keep it on Map 3?
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e93WhiteonRed Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 267 Posts Drives: 2007 E93 Alpine white with Red Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reston, Virginia iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 335I E93 [0.00]	Ultimateendz what did you do to get a 12.81?
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 5037 Rep 116,174 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	I would go with the JB3. Its the more advanced tune and on map3 you should be pretty safe safe code wise. Power delivery will be stronger and smoother then the JB+. The JB+ also comes with a 6-momnth upgrade policy so you can get that and then upgrade to the JB3 PnP and get a full refund on the purchase price of the JB+. Let me know if you have any other questions. Mike
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e93WhiteonRed Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 267 Posts Drives: 2007 E93 Alpine white with Red Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reston, Virginia iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 335I E93 [0.00]	I guess to rephrase... has anyone ever thrown a code using Map 3? I understand piece of mind, but if it just doesn't happen I'd rather just take my chances.
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e93WhiteonRed Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 267 Posts Drives: 2007 E93 Alpine white with Red Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reston, Virginia iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 335I E93 [0.00]	Better safe than sorry. Just bought the BT tool package and had it added onto my JB3 order. I guess I can do some higher maps now and not have to worry. I'll go run it at MIR in Maryland and post some results. Thanks for the help!
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245 sleeper Second Lieutenant 12 Rep 251 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i convertible Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: woodinville,WA iTrader: (0)	you will be happy with jb3. I did 12.92 @ 109 (map 7) W/ 100 OCT, DCI and on the street tire. __________________
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kennejp First Lieutenant 42 Rep 348 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: TN iTrader: (2)	I have not had the jb+ but I know you wont regret the jb3 because mods are addictive and you will regret not getting the jb3 after a few months when the fastness wears off and you want to turn it up or mod more. Just my .02
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