BMW Performance Power Kit just installed! First Impressions!

mhkm · 07-23-2010, 10:19 AM

Firstly, I know that there are chips and flashes available for a fraction of the cost with greater gains, however I wanted the most reliable way for increased performance while retaining my warranty, and without any possible deleterious effects on the longevity of my engine, turbos, etc... So no flaming please!

1. The kit is amazingly complete and contains a high performance radiator fan with the necessary relays and wiring harness, accessory radiator for the driver's side fender well, high flow piping for the coolant, air ducts that mount beside the driver side fog lights, a brand new upgraded ECU (mine went from DMS 80 to 81), and even upgraded BOSCH spark plugs!!

2. Install took 3 days for my mentally retarded dealer!!!

3. The performance enhancement I have noticed so far is all that I was hoping for. After having my car reflashed (needed for my electronic PSW to work), I never had the rocket like acceleration that my pre-29.2 car came with.... and I really missed that... now with the power kit, my car RIPS OFF THE LINE from standstill like a rocket sled and screams all the way to redline as strong and smooth as ever, NO LAG WHATSOEVER!!! and best of all, there is ABSOLUTELY NO WASTEGATE RATTLE!!!

4. Last but not least, I have noticed that my oil and water temps are a FULL 10 degrees Celsius COOLER than before, and I have yet to see my water temp reach 100 and oil temps reach 120 degrees, even after multiple WOT runs!!!!!! They would previously hit 115 and 130 C, respectively.!!!

CONCLUSION. IMHO, this kit is a must for those of us in hot climates who are looking for that extra OOOMPH in performance....!!! NICE WORK BMW!

vasillalov · 07-23-2010, 10:24 AM

Wait wait... BMW installed OEM Power Kit even though you have catless downpipes?

mhkm · 07-23-2010, 10:36 AM

YEP!!!! Didn't even mention it... Of course, I have an insider in the mechanics section and he helped a great deal!!

RoundelM3 · 07-23-2010, 10:40 AM

You have a water temp gauge installed? Aftermarket?

FLA 335 · 07-23-2010, 10:51 AM

i believe there is way to check coolant temps through OBC...

blubyu · 07-23-2010, 10:51 AM

Im confused that you mention the worry of maintaining your warranty but you take the car in with catless DP's and a FMIC. Then you claim to have an insider, so why not worry about the DP's and FMIC and worry about a tune/piggyback?

mhkm · 07-23-2010, 10:53 AM

Water temp is displayed real-time on the performance steering wheel.

mhkm · 07-23-2010, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Im confused that you mention the worry of maintaining your warranty but you take the car in with catless DP's and a FMIC. Then you claim to have an insider, so why not worry about the DP's and FMIC and worry about a tune/piggyback?

True, but what about the extra cooling the power kit provides? And the fact that the raised boost provided by piggybacks will definitely adversely affect the longevity of your engine and turbos....
I am certain that it will take my moron dealer a full month to replace my turbos, if that is ever needed in the future!

Everling · 07-23-2010, 12:06 PM

is ur "insider" a moron too? no very nice to speak like that about a friend that helped you.

Jed · 07-23-2010, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterhoang1988

is ur "insider" a moron too? no very nice to speak like that about a friend that helped you.

I was thinking the same thing!

mhkm · 07-23-2010, 02:08 PM

Ooops... sorry, I didn't mean to sound ungrateful or anything.... my "insider" is just a mechanic in the engine dept. and does not have full control over all issues going on at the dealer.... and as I said it did take a full three days for the install! Well, I guess being the guinea pig has its toll... (I was their first install)...

Now I am having second thoughts about installing the Injen intake, I like the car as it is... any suggestions?

kirby135i · 07-23-2010, 02:53 PM

still seems odd to install all these aftermarket parts but want the OEM tune...spending top dollar and getting less in return.

cstavaru · 07-23-2010, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roundel335

You have a water temp gauge installed? Aftermarket?

There is a water temp gauge available from BMW. If you install the BMW Accessories Control Module, you will get an additional iDrive menu that displays the water temperature, battery voltage and amount of fuel in the tank (in liters/gallons).

GaryS · 07-23-2010, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstavaru

There is a water temp gauge available from BMW. If you install the BMW Accessories Control Module, you will get an additional iDrive menu that displays the water temperature, battery voltage and amount of fuel in the tank (in liters/gallons).

If you don't have iDrive or Performance Steering Wheel, you can get a little $160 ScanGauge that displays water temp, air intake temp, voltage, timing, fault codes, and all kinds of trip and mpg stuff.

RoundelM3 · 07-23-2010, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryS

If you don't have iDrive or Performance Steering Wheel, you can get a little $160 ScanGauge that displays water temp, air intake temp, voltage, timing, fault codes, and all kinds of trip and mpg stuff.

Point me to a link and I'll look into that - I don't have PSW or iDrive...and here in TX it would be very advantageous. Is it something that can be mounted or does it log, etc.?

That said...too bad BMW doesn't sell the additional cooling parts separately. Or do they? I'd seriously consider it, but don't want to have to change DME to 81 and then have to get a new Dinan flash, etc.

ianbiz · 07-23-2010, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstavaru

There is a water temp gauge available from BMW. If you install the BMW Accessories Control Module, you will get an additional iDrive menu that displays the water temperature, battery voltage and amount of fuel in the tank (in liters/gallons).

more info please

GaryS · 07-23-2010, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roundel335

Point me to a link and I'll look into that - I don't have PSW or iDrive...and here in TX it would be very advantageous. Is it something that can be mounted or does it log, etc.?

That said...too bad BMW doesn't sell the additional cooling parts separately. Or do they? I'd seriously consider it, but don't want to have to change DME to 81 and then have to get a new Dinan flash, etc.

ScanGauge can be mounted. It displays some trip stuff, but not real logging.

http://www.scangauge.net/

Adding: there are much more expensive OBD2 multigauges available if you want more features. http://www.obdspy.com/tools/index.php

About the Performance cooling parts, the scoops are available for your car, and I guess the other parts will be available soon for 335is. But the Performance fan requires the performance tune and chip to operate. Someone said the second radiator also requires the tune to operate - I don't know.

Ilma · 07-23-2010, 08:54 PM

First of all....congratulations!

The extra cooling capacity would sure give me some peace of mind.

Kind of interesting to compare temps......I run a tune and VK intercooler and my oil temps never get over 120 C and whenever I get the chance to datalog my coolant temps, they hover between 99-102 C.

But I am careful not to heatsoak the engine too much.

After 2-3 runs, I take it easy for at least 5-10 minutes.

One thing that I do notice after 3 runs or so, is that timing starts to pull back.....so I suspect that once the engine block accumulates enough heatsoak, it tends to impact the combustion chamber temps more immediately than the cooling system can extract the heat......hence the change in timing.

I would love to have that extra rad and stronger fan!

Do you plan on adding a tune on top, or is this enough power to satisfy you.

cstavaru · 07-24-2010, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianbiz

more info please

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=59

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...5&postcount=34

Papajim · 07-24-2010, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhkm

...and even upgraded BOSCH spark plugs!!

Any details about those plugs???

GaryS · 07-24-2010, 08:41 AM

Are you sure the plugs are upgraded? I thought cstavaru confirmed that they are new stock plugs. No?

I335 · 07-24-2010, 03:24 PM

Yeah - I'm interested in the spark plug details too...

07-23-2010, 10:19 AM	#1
mhkm The Doctor 15 Rep 172 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i; 2013 E70 X5M Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East Side iTrader: (0)	BMW Performance Power Kit just installed! First Impressions! Firstly, I know that there are chips and flashes available for a fraction of the cost with greater gains, however I wanted the most reliable way for increased performance while retaining my warranty, and without any possible deleterious effects on the longevity of my engine, turbos, etc... So no flaming please! 1. The kit is amazingly complete and contains a high performance radiator fan with the necessary relays and wiring harness, accessory radiator for the driver's side fender well, high flow piping for the coolant, air ducts that mount beside the driver side fog lights, a brand new upgraded ECU (mine went from DMS 80 to 81), and even upgraded BOSCH spark plugs!! 2. Install took 3 days for my mentally retarded dealer!!! 3. The performance enhancement I have noticed so far is all that I was hoping for. After having my car reflashed (needed for my electronic PSW to work), I never had the rocket like acceleration that my pre-29.2 car came with.... and I really missed that... now with the power kit, my car RIPS OFF THE LINE from standstill like a rocket sled and screams all the way to redline as strong and smooth as ever, NO LAG WHATSOEVER!!! and best of all, there is ABSOLUTELY NO WASTEGATE RATTLE!!! 4. Last but not least, I have noticed that my oil and water temps are a FULL 10 degrees Celsius COOLER than before, and I have yet to see my water temp reach 100 and oil temps reach 120 degrees, even after multiple WOT runs!!!!!! They would previously hit 115 and 130 C, respectively.!!! CONCLUSION. IMHO, this kit is a must for those of us in hot climates who are looking for that extra OOOMPH in performance....!!! NICE WORK BMW! __________________ 2007 335i: Evolve tune, AR Catless DP, VK FMIC, Vorsteiner lip, VRS CSI bootlid, Lux V3, RD strut bar, P3 Boost guage, PSW, BMW Performance Power Kit, Injen intake - TOTALLED by son 2013 X5M: VRS lip, Velos Tune, Catless DP, Dome hood, electric trailer hitch, performance alcantera SW.
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

07-23-2010, 10:24 AM	#2
vasillalov Mad Linux Guru On The Loose 1195 Rep 5,455 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Sedan, 2023 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (5) Garage List 2023 BMW M3 [0.00] 2008 335i E90 [8.00]	Wait wait... BMW installed OEM Power Kit even though you have catless downpipes? __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-23-2010, 10:36 AM	#3
mhkm The Doctor 15 Rep 172 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i; 2013 E70 X5M Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East Side iTrader: (0)	YEP!!!! Didn't even mention it... Of course, I have an insider in the mechanics section and he helped a great deal!! __________________ 2007 335i: Evolve tune, AR Catless DP, VK FMIC, Vorsteiner lip, VRS CSI bootlid, Lux V3, RD strut bar, P3 Boost guage, PSW, BMW Performance Power Kit, Injen intake - TOTALLED by son 2013 X5M: VRS lip, Velos Tune, Catless DP, Dome hood, electric trailer hitch, performance alcantera SW.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-23-2010, 10:40 AM	#4
RoundelM3 Major General 1920 Rep 7,033 Posts Drives: 15 F80 M3, 22 G01 X3 30i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clayton, NC iTrader: (2) Garage List 2015 BMW M3 [7.90] 2022 BMW X3 [9.87]	You have a water temp gauge installed? Aftermarket? __________________ 2015 F80 ///M3 Sedan 7DCT Tanzanite, 2022 X3 sDrive30i 8AT Brooklyn Grey
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-23-2010, 10:51 AM	#5
FLA 335 Captain 25 Rep 746 Posts Drives: 2009 335i (SOLD) !!!!! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Miami Fl iTrader: (7)	i believe there is way to check coolant temps through OBC... __________________ 2009 BMW 335i Sedan / Auto / Paddles / Sport / BMW Assist / Heated seats / JB Matte Black Grill / Tischer First Aid Kit w\Triangle / Tischer Hood Pad / "Custom" rear fog switch <---- SOLD!!!!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-23-2010, 10:51 AM	#6
blubyu First Lieutenant 12 Rep 302 Posts Drives: 99 Corvette H/C, 09 335i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (2)	Im confused that you mention the worry of maintaining your warranty but you take the car in with catless DP's and a FMIC. Then you claim to have an insider, so why not worry about the DP's and FMIC and worry about a tune/piggyback?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-23-2010, 10:53 AM	#7
mhkm The Doctor 15 Rep 172 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i; 2013 E70 X5M Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East Side iTrader: (0)	Water temp is displayed real-time on the performance steering wheel. __________________ 2007 335i: Evolve tune, AR Catless DP, VK FMIC, Vorsteiner lip, VRS CSI bootlid, Lux V3, RD strut bar, P3 Boost guage, PSW, BMW Performance Power Kit, Injen intake - TOTALLED by son 2013 X5M: VRS lip, Velos Tune, Catless DP, Dome hood, electric trailer hitch, performance alcantera SW.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-23-2010, 12:06 PM	#9
Everling Second Lieutenant 55 Rep 271 Posts Drives: 2018 ZCP M3 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Phoenix iTrader: (0)	is ur "insider" a moron too? no very nice to speak like that about a friend that helped you.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-23-2010, 02:08 PM	#11
mhkm The Doctor 15 Rep 172 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i; 2013 E70 X5M Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East Side iTrader: (0)	Ooops... sorry, I didn't mean to sound ungrateful or anything.... my "insider" is just a mechanic in the engine dept. and does not have full control over all issues going on at the dealer.... and as I said it did take a full three days for the install! Well, I guess being the guinea pig has its toll... (I was their first install)... Now I am having second thoughts about installing the Injen intake, I like the car as it is... any suggestions? __________________ 2007 335i: Evolve tune, AR Catless DP, VK FMIC, Vorsteiner lip, VRS CSI bootlid, Lux V3, RD strut bar, P3 Boost guage, PSW, BMW Performance Power Kit, Injen intake - TOTALLED by son 2013 X5M: VRS lip, Velos Tune, Catless DP, Dome hood, electric trailer hitch, performance alcantera SW.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-23-2010, 02:53 PM	#12
kirby135i Lieutenant 15 Rep 506 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: here iTrader: (1)	still seems odd to install all these aftermarket parts but want the OEM tune...spending top dollar and getting less in return.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-23-2010, 08:54 PM	#18
Ilma Colonel 193 Rep 2,854 Posts Drives: 2023 M4 Competition Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mississauga iTrader: (0)	First of all....congratulations! The extra cooling capacity would sure give me some peace of mind. Kind of interesting to compare temps......I run a tune and VK intercooler and my oil temps never get over 120 C and whenever I get the chance to datalog my coolant temps, they hover between 99-102 C. But I am careful not to heatsoak the engine too much. After 2-3 runs, I take it easy for at least 5-10 minutes. One thing that I do notice after 3 runs or so, is that timing starts to pull back.....so I suspect that once the engine block accumulates enough heatsoak, it tends to impact the combustion chamber temps more immediately than the cooling system can extract the heat......hence the change in timing. I would love to have that extra rad and stronger fan! Do you plan on adding a tune on top, or is this enough power to satisfy you.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-24-2010, 08:41 AM	#21
GaryS Colonel 39 Rep 2,084 Posts Drives: 2009 135i 6MT Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 135i [6.50]	Are you sure the plugs are upgraded? I thought cstavaru confirmed that they are new stock plugs. No?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-24-2010, 03:24 PM	#22
I335 Brigadier General 126 Rep 4,248 Posts Drives: '08 335i Coupe Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New England iTrader: (11)	Yeah - I'm interested in the spark plug details too...
	Appreciate 0 Quote