Non Runflats and BMW Assist?

cruvon · 10-09-2010, 01:53 AM

Hi, anyones had to call BMW Assist after a flat after installing non runflats?
Did they have any issues with towing etc for going the non runflat route?
Thanks

WOPALX · 10-09-2010, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cruvon

Hi, anyones had to call BMW Assist after a flat after installing non runflats?
Did they have any issues with towing etc for going the non runflat route?
Thanks

Used them once after getting towed from the SHB in peak hour due to a flat. Towed me to the office and then sent a service van to put on a spare wheel I had there.

Best though to get the space saver spare and a jack, be self reliant.

cruvon · 10-09-2010, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WOPALX

Used them once after getting towed from the SHB in peak hour due to a flat. Towed me to the office and then sent a service van to put on a spare wheel I had there.

Best though to get the space saver spare and a jack, be self reliant.

Thanks,is good they don't wash their hands off non rfts. Howmuch does the spare wheel and Jack cost from Bmw dealers or cheaper to get from overseas?
Thanks

kaishang · 10-09-2010, 01:29 PM

If it is a nail or screw (and it usually is) then you should be able to plug it with a tubeless tyre repair kit, then pump it back up with a foot pump.

Tubless repair kits are easy to find at motorcycle dealers, since bike have no spare obv.

Drew335 · 10-09-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cruvon

Thanks,is good they don't wash their hands off non rfts. Howmuch does the spare wheel and Jack cost from Bmw dealers or cheaper to get from overseas?
Thanks

when I fitted new rims a month or so back I purchased a BMW jack kit from ECS Tuning, check it out here

not sure how much freight was, as I shipped it along with an M3 lip spoiler and a few other bits, but I figure around $50 or so meaning it was about AUS$230 landed. it comes in a nice case that fits under the boot floor and includes everything you need. I know you can get it all this kit a lot cheaper at SuperCheap or Autobarn, but I like the single package with everything included. it even comes with black BMW gloves so you don't get your hands dirty

I use one of the factory 230 style rims as a spare, which I carry most of the time. the genuine BMW space saver spare cost a bomb and I couldn't find a reasonable rim online, so figured this was an easy option. also means I am not limited with a skinny wheel if I get a flat, which is useful for me as I do a lot of interstate driving for work.

cruvon · 10-10-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew335

when I fitted new rims a month or so back I purchased a BMW jack kit from ECS Tuning, check it out here

not sure how much freight was, as I shipped it along with an M3 lip spoiler and a few other bits, but I figure around $50 or so meaning it was about AUS$230 landed. it comes in a nice case that fits under the boot floor and includes everything you need. I know you can get it all this kit a lot cheaper at SuperCheap or Autobarn, but I like the single package with everything included. it even comes with black BMW gloves so you don't get your hands dirty

I use one of the factory 230 style rims as a spare, which I carry most of the time. the genuine BMW space saver spare cost a bomb and I couldn't find a reasonable rim online, so figured this was an easy option. also means I am not limited with a skinny wheel if I get a flat, which is useful for me as I do a lot of interstate driving for work.

Thanks for the info Drew335. Checked out your ECS link, says the jack is for cars fitted with runflats, assuming could be used for ones with non runflats too?
Mine should be this one?
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...00&hg=71&fg=95

Am finally shipping in some 230's fitted with Michelin pilot sport PS2's from overseas that got almost new off another car so didn't go the runflat way

and reviews seem to say the Michelin Sports are quite comfy on the 19's. Seems the guy I got them from had convinced his dealership to change the tyres on his new 335 to the Michelin PS2's from Bridgestone runflats hence the Michelins on them. He's on winters now so offloaded these.

That's a good idea to keep one of your tyres as a spare but I noticed the front two tyres are different from the rear two for 19's 230's so would depend on which of your wheels goes flat right, so would be hard to decide which of the 230s spare to carry or could use any on all 4 as a spare?

Wondering if I could use my 16's as spares too in case of a flat with a 19, was looking at the tyre sizes and the 16's seem to be the same size across all 4 wheels unlike the 19's but doubt I can since the BMW spacesaver spare too comes as a min 17 I think?

VGR00 · 10-10-2010, 04:49 AM

You can deffinitly use one of your 16" as a spare. Another option is to buy a HSV / Monaro space saver alloy wheel. They come up on ebay all the time and the vendor I purchased mine from had brand new surplus stock. $80 and looks the same as BMW alloy space saver with the same overall size. Only thing I needed to do was increase the size of the hole by 1mm so it would sit on the hub. Took me about 5 min with a circular hand file. I have a jack from an E39 and a proper lug torque wrench as well.

kaishang · 10-10-2010, 05:56 AM

You just put this in the boot?

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Originally Posted by Drew335

I use one of the factory 230 style rims as a spare, which I carry most of the time. the genuine BMW space saver spare cost a bomb and I couldn't find a reasonable rim online, so figured this was an easy option. also means I am not limited with a skinny wheel if I get a flat, which is useful for me as I do a lot of interstate driving for work.

Drew335 · 10-10-2010, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cruvon

Thanks for the info Drew335. Checked out your ECS link, says the jack is for cars fitted with runflats, assuming could be used for ones with non runflats too?
Mine should be this one?
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...00&hg=71&fg=95

yes that's the one I bought - looks identical. I can't see what difference there would be, removing a wheel is the same regardless of RFTs

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Originally Posted by cruvon

That's a good idea to keep one of your tyres as a spare but I noticed the front two tyres are different from the rear two for 19's 230's so would depend on which of your wheels goes flat right, so would be hard to decide which of the 230s spare to carry or could use any on all 4 as a spare

I just carry one of the front wheels, as it will fit either end of the car whereas the rear will not. it's not perfect but works for me better than a spacesaver.

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Originally Posted by kaishang

You just put this in the boot?

yep. got a wheel cover for it and a strap that holds it in place. most of the time it's me + an overnight bag so no shortage of space in my boot.

cruvon · 10-10-2010, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by vgr02

You can deffinitly use one of your 16" as a spare. Another option is to buy a HSV / Monaro space saver alloy wheel. They come up on ebay all the time and the vendor I purchased mine from had brand new surplus stock. $80 and looks the same as BMW alloy space saver with the same overall size. Only thing I needed to do was increase the size of the hole by 1mm so it would sit on the hub. Took me about 5 min with a circular hand file. I have a jack from an E39 and a proper lug torque wrench as well.

thanks for info that can use the 16s too, nice workaround but am not that car savy with tools et al to attempt a DIY, good on you though

cruvon · 10-10-2010, 06:50 AM

Thanks Drew335, guess will get the jack first. Read somewhere that the one you got is better than the one included with the spare tyre kit. Cool, that's good you can use the front 230 on either, else would be a bit of roulette guessing which one to carry with

.
You mentioned a strap to hold the spare wheel in place, whats it secured to?

kaishang · 10-10-2010, 07:23 AM

Thanks for info Drew335. Are you running RFTs or conventional tyres?

cruvon · 10-10-2010, 07:30 AM

Also guys, what does a typical puncture repair cost on a non runflat if it's done at a good shop that won't damage your alloys?
Got burnt by a runflat puncture that cost me 500 bucks by way of a new tyre a while ago.

kaishang · 10-10-2010, 07:30 AM

See previous post about temporary tubless tyre repairs. This will prevent your tyre from going to zero pressure and toasting your RFT. You CAN repair a RFT like any other tubeless tyre for typical nail/screw punctures, provided you don't let it go to zero pressure.

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Originally Posted by cruvon

Got burnt by a runflat puncture that cost me 500 bucks by way of a new tyre a while ago.

Drew335 · 10-10-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cruvon

Thanks Drew335, guess will get the jack first. Read somewhere that the one you got is better than the one included with the spare tyre kit. Cool, that's good you can use the front 230 on either, else would be a bit of roulette guessing which one to carry with

.
You mentioned a strap to hold the spare wheel in place, whats it secured to?

strap is secured to the mounts already in the boot, presume they are standard? i just bought one of these and tweaked it a bit

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Originally Posted by kaishang

Thanks for info Drew335. Are you running RFTs or conventional tyres?

RFTs in the form of 19" Yokohama Advan Sports, check out this post re sizes and the like. love them, would never go back to RFTs having driven it on standard tyres. better ride quality, better handling, cheaper tyres etc etc.

Stuart@BMRAutowerkes · 10-10-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cruvon

Also guys, what does a typical puncture repair cost on a non runflat if it's done at a good shop that won't damage your alloys?
Got burnt by a runflat puncture that cost me 500 bucks by way of a new tyre a while ago.

I've run over something like 4 nails in 3 different cars in the past 3 years or so... each time just had it plugged up at a tyre shop for between $15-25. All were non-rft. No chance of damaging the wheel really, they don't remove the tyre. Just remove the offending item, clean it up and put in some putty.

cruvon · 10-10-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew335

strap is secured to the mounts already in the boot, presume they are standard? i just bought one of these and tweaked it a bit

RFTs in the form of 19" Yokohama Advan Sports, check out this post re sizes and the like. love them, would never go back to RFTs having driven it on standard tyres. better ride quality, better handling, cheaper tyres etc etc.

Thanks, didn't know there were mounts in the boot

..would be interesting to see a picture of what your setup looks like.

cruvon · 10-11-2010, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bmroxm5

I've run over something like 4 nails in 3 different cars in the past 3 years or so... each time just had it plugged up at a tyre shop for between $15-25. All were non-rft. No chance of damaging the wheel really, they don't remove the tyre. Just remove the offending item, clean it up and put in some putty.

thanks, sounds good

, do you use any special tyre shops or just go to any one? Concerned because wouldn't want them to scratch my alloys. Never had to deal with a puncture before except for one on my runflat and that made up in cost and more for all the punctures I didn't have

Stuart@BMRAutowerkes · 10-11-2010, 01:38 AM

anyshop - but I've been to 7day tyres in Granville twice cause it was convenient both times.

I've either put the spare on, or just inflated it up and 'limped' there.

so you don't even have a puncture? just for future reference? cross that bridge when it comes to it lol.

Also someone will have to confirm that runflats can actually be repaired - for some reason I'm thinking they can't but we'll see...

cruvon · 10-11-2010, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bmroxm5

anyshop - but I've been to 7day tyres in Granville twice cause it was convenient both times.

I've either put the spare on, or just inflated it up and 'limped' there.

so you don't even have a puncture? just for future reference? cross that bridge when it comes to it lol.

Also someone will have to confirm that runflats can actually be repaired - for some reason I'm thinking they can't but we'll see...

thanks, check this out for runflat repair info from Trivett, seems like all runflats except for Pirelli , Continental and any Bridgestone tyre Marked with "Do Not Repair Tyre" on the sidewall can be repaired, didn't know about that

http://www.trivetttyres.com.au/Run-Flat-Tyres-95.aspx

johnnydad · 10-11-2010, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cruvon

Thanks,is good they don't wash their hands off non rfts. Howmuch does the spare wheel and Jack cost from Bmw dealers or cheaper to get from overseas?
Thanks

BMW run-flat rim, tyre and fitting cost me $130 from the dealership. Jack and wheelbrace from Supercheap.

Drew335 · 10-11-2010, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cruvon

thanks, check this out for runflat repair info from Trivett, seems like all runflats except for Pirelli , Continental and any Bridgestone tyre Marked with "Do Not Repair Tyre" on the sidewall can be repaired, didn't know about that

http://www.trivetttyres.com.au/Run-Flat-Tyres-95.aspx

I had a Bridgestone RFT with a puncture about 8 months ago, wasn't repairable so a new tyre was required ... cue my hate relationship with RFTs

as you point out Cruvon some tyres can be repaired and as Kaishang mentioned this is largely about not letting the tyre go down to zero pressure while driving on it.

one thing I didn't realise is that getting an RFT off a rim is harder than a normal tyre due to the stiffer sidewalls, hence more chance of the rim getting damaged than with a normal tyre. worth bearing in mind if you do have repairable RFTs, eg where you take them for repairs...

coincidentally a colleague with a 335i coupe had a RFT with a puncture on Friday afternoon (on the Hume near Albury), he had to keep driving until he reached Albury so the tyre is now @#$%ed. given nobody stocks 19" RFTs in Albury he had to get a loaner (a Toyota Camry

) and return to Canberra while a new RFT is shipped from Melbourne to Albury. then it has to be fitted before he can get the car back later this week.

IMHO how is that better or more efficient that a spare tyre in the boot??? glad I converted back to normal tyres with a spare, at least I don't run that risk anymore given how much interstate driving I do.

(PS no offence to those who run RFTs and are happy with them, it's just my experience with them has been less than stellar)

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cruvon Lieutenant Colonel 88 Rep 1,543 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (1)	Thanks Drew335, guess will get the jack first. Read somewhere that the one you got is better than the one included with the spare tyre kit. Cool, that's good you can use the front 230 on either, else would be a bit of roulette guessing which one to carry with. You mentioned a strap to hold the spare wheel in place, whats it secured to? __________________ Tiag E90 \| JBSPEED Spli t t ers \| JBSPEED ACS style Roof Spoiler \| JBSPEED M3 style Trunk spoiler \| Euro plates \| K&N Intake \| BMW OEM Performance Exhaust \| Debadged \| OEM Chromeline trim \|230 OEM rims \| 19" Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 Non runflats \| OEM Burr Walnut Gear knob \| OEM Blacklines \| OEM Spacesaver \|
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