E90Post
 


 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > Turbos sound a little loud



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-03-2010, 06:04 PM   #1
Iwantm3
Banned
United_States
38
Rep
1,284
Posts

Drives: 335i M sport
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: US AND A I likeeeee

iTrader: (1)

Turbos sound a little loud

Seems like my turbos sound a little loud is that possible ? What is the problem ?
Appreciate 0
      11-03-2010, 06:05 PM   #2
cn555ic
cn555ic's Avatar
United_States
460
Rep
18,331
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: US

iTrader: (6)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iwantm3 View Post
Seems like my turbos sound a little loud is that possible ? What is the problem ?
Its because the temps are colder outside since you live in MOSCOW
When temps drops you hear the turbos spool much louder. Turbos LOVE cold temps and the car runs so much better!
Appreciate 0
      11-03-2010, 06:20 PM   #3
Penn999
Lieutenant Colonel
Penn999's Avatar
52
Rep
1,661
Posts

Drives: 335i coupe
Join Date: May 2010
Location: VA

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cn555ic View Post
Its because the temps are colder outside since you live in MOSCOW
When temps drops you hear the turbos spool much louder. Turbos LOVE cold temps and the car runs so much better!
+1, Check out the post thats labeled...."cold weather is like running free meth." I can def. feel a difference here in Va, in the morning its around 40 degrees F.
Appreciate 0
      11-03-2010, 06:56 PM   #4
Iwantm3
Banned
United_States
38
Rep
1,284
Posts

Drives: 335i M sport
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: US AND A I likeeeee

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cn555ic View Post
Its because the temps are colder outside since you live in MOSCOW
When temps drops you hear the turbos spool much louder. Turbos LOVE cold temps and the car runs so much better!

Lmaooooo kk thanks I was just a little worried
Appreciate 0
      11-03-2010, 09:05 PM   #5
Bimmer This
Major General
100
Rep
6,473
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Westminster

iTrader: (3)

a sound clip would help a lot.
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2010, 12:13 AM   #6
Iwantm3
Banned
United_States
38
Rep
1,284
Posts

Drives: 335i M sport
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: US AND A I likeeeee

iTrader: (1)

It would be hard to get a sound clip , is there any kind of test to see if my turbos are working good ?
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2010, 12:16 AM   #7
Brey335i
Banned
118
Rep
4,771
Posts

Drives: e46 ///M3
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iwantm3 View Post
It would be hard to get a sound clip , is there any kind of test to see if my turbos are working good ?
Right pedal. To the floor.
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2010, 12:27 AM   #8
Iwantm3
Banned
United_States
38
Rep
1,284
Posts

Drives: 335i M sport
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: US AND A I likeeeee

iTrader: (1)

lmao, and then what ?
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2010, 12:34 AM   #9
Brey335i
Banned
118
Rep
4,771
Posts

Drives: e46 ///M3
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (11)

If your rear tires make noise, your traction control comes on, and blinking lights appear behind you... your turbos are working fine
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2010, 12:43 AM   #10
Iwantm3
Banned
United_States
38
Rep
1,284
Posts

Drives: 335i M sport
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: US AND A I likeeeee

iTrader: (1)

lol got you, i'm running with out a tune or meth now is dci and downpipes are killing my low end a little bit ?
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2010, 12:47 AM   #11
Brey335i
Banned
118
Rep
4,771
Posts

Drives: e46 ///M3
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (11)

downpipes shouldn't be a problem. DCI... it depends I would say
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2010, 03:58 AM   #12
**335i**
Colonel
**335i**'s Avatar
Switzerland
188
Rep
2,320
Posts

Drives: TOYOTA & 2008 E92 335i 6MT
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Swiss

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2008 335i  [9.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brey335i View Post
downpipes shouldn't be a problem. DCI... it depends I would say
dci what do u mean?
__________________
E92 335i Black Saphire 6MT PROcede V5, BMS DCI, Big Tom IC, AR CL-DP's 3", AR Design OC, Forge DV's, OEM M3 side skirts, BMW Performance Wheels 19 inch 269 Black Gloss+Continental ContiSportContact 5P (400hp and 550nm) https://www.youtube.com/user/aistis7..._as=subscriber
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2010, 07:56 AM   #13
UCF 335
Second Lieutenant
14
Rep
242
Posts

Drives: Monaco 335i Sedan
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Jax, FL

iTrader: (2)

Dual Cone Intake...
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2010, 09:43 AM   #14
zenmaster
Brigadier General
United_States
1581
Rep
3,888
Posts

Drives: '17 M2
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cn555ic View Post
Its because the temps are colder outside since you live in MOSCOW
When temps drops you hear the turbos spool much louder. Turbos LOVE cold temps and the car runs so much better!
Just wanted to mention a couple things: FWIW, turbo sound from my '07 335i did not get louder in cold weather. So it's not a given.

For some reason, on this car the DME adjusts for air density, attempting to keep power delivery consistent. Even though it's safer to run higher boost with colder charge, the DME lowers boost targets in cold weather. (Not so on my RX7 R1.) That why autotune should be fun this winter.
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2010, 11:42 AM   #15
**335i**
Colonel
**335i**'s Avatar
Switzerland
188
Rep
2,320
Posts

Drives: TOYOTA & 2008 E92 335i 6MT
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Swiss

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2008 335i  [9.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by goblue8 View Post
Dual Cone Intake...
i know that "dual cone Intake" but what he wanted to say about that?
__________________
E92 335i Black Saphire 6MT PROcede V5, BMS DCI, Big Tom IC, AR CL-DP's 3", AR Design OC, Forge DV's, OEM M3 side skirts, BMW Performance Wheels 19 inch 269 Black Gloss+Continental ContiSportContact 5P (400hp and 550nm) https://www.youtube.com/user/aistis7..._as=subscriber
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2010, 03:45 PM   #16
Iwantm3
Banned
United_States
38
Rep
1,284
Posts

Drives: 335i M sport
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: US AND A I likeeeee

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by **335i** View Post
i know that "dual cone Intake" but what he wanted to say about that?
That you may lose some low end power
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2010, 03:55 PM   #17
themyst
Major General
themyst's Avatar
South Korea
189
Rep
6,631
Posts

Drives: '16 MK7 GTI
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NYC

iTrader: (8)

u will lose like 2whp on the low end, nothing your butt dyno will pick up
__________________
E90 LCI N54 6AT
Appreciate 0
      11-07-2010, 02:24 AM   #18
**335i**
Colonel
**335i**'s Avatar
Switzerland
188
Rep
2,320
Posts

Drives: TOYOTA & 2008 E92 335i 6MT
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Swiss

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2008 335i  [9.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iwantm3 View Post
That you may lose some low end power
so u say that with dci u lose power i dynoed my car and i gain hp not lost also gained torque now i have only dci and all stock my numbers are 320 hp (to crank) and 420 torque, comparing with my baseline dyno in all ways its better even to have only dci and all stock
__________________
E92 335i Black Saphire 6MT PROcede V5, BMS DCI, Big Tom IC, AR CL-DP's 3", AR Design OC, Forge DV's, OEM M3 side skirts, BMW Performance Wheels 19 inch 269 Black Gloss+Continental ContiSportContact 5P (400hp and 550nm) https://www.youtube.com/user/aistis7..._as=subscriber
Appreciate 0
      11-07-2010, 03:55 AM   #19
Iwantm3
Banned
United_States
38
Rep
1,284
Posts

Drives: 335i M sport
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: US AND A I likeeeee

iTrader: (1)

You dyno it with the hood opened, and a lot of air coming in from the fans, and you might be gaining HP but on the low end with intakes you usualy lose just a little
Appreciate 0
      11-07-2010, 05:14 AM   #20
**335i**
Colonel
**335i**'s Avatar
Switzerland
188
Rep
2,320
Posts

Drives: TOYOTA & 2008 E92 335i 6MT
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Swiss

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2008 335i  [9.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iwantm3 View Post
You dyno it with the hood opened, and a lot of air coming in from the fans, and you might be gaining HP but on the low end with intakes you usualy lose just a little
wrong, no hood opened and no fans
__________________
E92 335i Black Saphire 6MT PROcede V5, BMS DCI, Big Tom IC, AR CL-DP's 3", AR Design OC, Forge DV's, OEM M3 side skirts, BMW Performance Wheels 19 inch 269 Black Gloss+Continental ContiSportContact 5P (400hp and 550nm) https://www.youtube.com/user/aistis7..._as=subscriber
Appreciate 0
      11-07-2010, 09:35 AM   #21
MKE_M3
Lieutenant Colonel
MKE_M3's Avatar
United_States
69
Rep
1,705
Posts

Drives: 2011 e90 M3
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Milwaukee, WI

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by zenmaster View Post
Just wanted to mention a couple things: FWIW, turbo sound from my '07 335i did not get louder in cold weather. So it's not a given.

For some reason, on this car the DME adjusts for air density, attempting to keep power delivery consistent. Even though it's safer to run higher boost with colder charge, the DME lowers boost targets in cold weather. (Not so on my RX7 R1.) That why autotune should be fun this winter.
Absolutely! I picked about about 1psi in teh 30degree wheather here in WI. The power is unbelievable. Now if only cold weather could improve traction I'd try to set a tune + FMIC 1/4 mile record! I imagine my trap would be awesome in this cold!
Appreciate 0
      11-07-2010, 10:20 AM   #22
zenmaster
Brigadier General
United_States
1581
Rep
3,888
Posts

Drives: '17 M2
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdemetry View Post
Absolutely! I picked about about 1psi in teh 30degree wheather here in WI. The power is unbelievable. Now if only cold weather could improve traction I'd try to set a tune + FMIC 1/4 mile record! I imagine my trap would be awesome in this cold!
I assume boost increased due to effective octane increase (don't have to pull timing at higher pressure). Every ~25-30F decrease is 1 octane point (AKI) increase (So 91 octane at 30F is roughly equivalent to 93 octane at 85F, and 93 octane at 30F same as 95 at 85F)

Further, every ~11F decrease is a 1% increase in air density, which should be equivalent to 1% more power. So a drop from 85F to 30F is 5% increase in power or a 15HP gain.

The (safe) power gains due to cold weather could easily be be over 25-30HP.
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:39 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST