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      11-14-2010, 08:12 PM   #1
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Procede settings question

I got my procede, after the install what am I suposed to do in that user adjustable parameters table ? I have all the bolt ons + meth , I want the most power lol
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set it to UT80 IC0 and let er' rip
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what about psi ? 18.5 ?
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set it to UT80 IC0 and let er' rip
That's way too aggressive for my taste!! Ut 65 ic 10 is more on the conservative side!!
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That's way too aggressive for my taste!! Ut 65 ic 10 is more on the conservative side!!
look at what he wants.. "the most power" :P Just giving the crowd what they want heh

If you want to be safe FBO+meth assuming it's flowing properly, go UT65 IC0 max boost 17psi.
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look at what he wants.. "the most power" :P Just giving the crowd what they want heh

If you want to be safe FBO+meth assuming it's flowing properly, go UT65 IC0 max boost 17psi.
Those settings would recommend! Its like sending it up the river without a paddle!! lol

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-I would go UT-75 IC-0 & max boost 18psi with your setup.
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-I would go UT-75 IC-0 & max boost 18psi with your setup.
He has probably the same level of mods I do, and I went 18.5 and timing was still maxed out. Without knowing what size the OP's nozzle is though, I can't recommend it wholeheartedly.
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I'm completely stock and ran fine with 100 octane at UT-70 IC-0 for a few days when I had the tank full of it. With full mods he can go well beyond that, but if he's looking to be safe and have full power I would stay below 18psi.
Autotune tunes your car anyways, just have your boost limit at 18psi.
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I'm completely stock and ran fine with 100 octane at UT-70 IC-0 for a few days when I had the tank full of it. With full mods he can go well beyond that, but if he's looking to be safe and have full power I would stay below 18psi.
Autotune tunes your car anyways, just have your boost limit at 18psi.
if your meth is flowing properly, it will autotune to astronomical figures. I forgot to turn down my max boost level once and it autotuned up to 19.4psi

Honestly, set the UT to correspond with the boost level you desire. Autotune at that point can work its way down if conditions worsen but will not increase beyond your set limit.
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if your meth is flowing properly, it will autotune to astronomical figures. I forgot to turn down my max boost level once and it autotuned up to 19.4psi

Honestly, set the UT to correspond with the boost level you desire. Autotune at that point can work its way down if conditions worsen but will not increase beyond your set limit.
Lol Astronomical figures!!!
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The smartest thing would be to let autotuning do its thing on the respective maps. If you do get autotuned to crazy high boost, lower the max boost setting.
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I have cm10 nozzle, I used to run map8 on jb3, so basicly I should put maximum boost on map 2 18 psi overboostdelay leave as is , ic - 0 and let it autotune , how about these settings bellow ?
autotune agression ?
user boost ?
1st & 2nd gear tq map ?
autotune agression ?
wg position?
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Just leave that alone. It'll get to where it needs to be. I belive map 4 is now the progressive meth map.
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i met a guy that set it to 19psi on a completely stock car!!! hahahaha, what a fucking idiot!!!
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silly question... what is UT ?? Initial boost ?
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Just leave that alone. It'll get to where it needs to be. I belive map 4 is now the progressive meth map.
Isn't it 3 ?
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Map 1 (Leave it alone)

Map 2:

Max BOOST "18" PSI
Overboost Delay "Default Settings"
Initial boost "65" (means 16.5 PSI)
Ignition correct "10" (Always start conservative).

1st Gear Torque I run 50% could run 60-75 in summer or 100% if you like spinning first gear. At track on drag radials you can run 100.

2nd gear torque, "100"

Upshit softening leave it where it is. (Default)

Autotune aggression "2" (Default)


When you get your failsafe in... let me know, you will want to change injection mode at that point.
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Map 1 (Leave it alone)

Map 2:

Max BOOST "18" PSI
Overboost Delay "Default Settings"
Initial boost "65" (means 16.5 PSI)
Ignition correct "10" (Always start conservative).

1st Gear Torque I run 50% could run 60-75 in summer or 100% if you like spinning first gear. At track on drag radials you can run 100.

2nd gear torque, "100"

Upshit softening leave it where it is. (Default)

Autotune aggression "2" (Default)


When you get your failsafe in... let me know, you will want to change injection mode at that point.
Hey,we will be installing failsafe same day with procede aswell as relocating my new meth tank and new fmic, sometime this week
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Hey,we will be installing failsafe same day with procede aswell as relocating my new meth tank and new fmic, sometime this week
After you install failsafe, you will want to test your flow of methanol into a bucket FIRST (so u dont waste meth testing your meth flow)!

In procede program you want to enable Debug byte 7 in the channels its meth flow.

When you test the meth flow, this value will read a number, somewhere between 12-18 I would gather.

As meth is flowing you will find that number, say its 14...

So now you have a 14 flow in "optimum conditions" (not under boost).

When under boost its likely you might flow only 13....

So you set your minimum flow to 12 in "injection mode"

Cliff notes:

Open Procede Program
Go to Logging channels
Insert Debug Byte 7 so you can view it on the top right of the procede main screen. It should read 0 with no meth flow.

Hotwire meth to flow into a CLEAN bucket or very large cup to test meth flow and find optimum number. (if the bucket is squeaky clean u can resuse meth)

Take that optimum number and subtract 2.

Insert that number into "injection mode" under user adjustable tab.


The latest firmware/maps (firmware 31 if available to you) uses the following maps...

Map 1 (is map 1)
Map 2 (is map 2)
Map 3 (N/A Mode)

Map 4 (Progressive meth map)

When on map 4, your blinkers will illuminate showing methanol is flowing.

You can also datalog your car, and read the output of debug byte 7.

If your on older firmware like 29

Map 1 is 1
Map 2 is 2
Map 3 is progressive Meth map, again blinkers will illuminate when methanol is flowing over "12" injection mode.

Labonte failsafe has 3 wires....

Red Power
black Ground
Green (NOT USED)
blue(To Procede).
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After you install failsafe, you will want to test your flow of methanol into a bucket FIRST (so u dont waste meth testing your meth flow)!

In procede program you want to enable Debug byte 7 in the channels its meth flow.

When you test the meth flow, this value will read a number, somewhere between 12-18 I would gather.

As meth is flowing you will find that number, say its 14...

So now you have a 14 flow in "optimum conditions" (not under boost).

When under boost its likely you might flow only 13....

So you set your minimum flow to 12 in "injection mode"

Cliff notes:

Open Procede Program
Go to Logging channels
Insert Debug Byte 7 so you can view it on the top right of the procede main screen. It should read 0 with no meth flow.

Hotwire meth to flow into a CLEAN bucket or very large cup to test meth flow and find optimum number. (if the bucket is squeaky clean u can resuse meth)

Take that optimum number and subtract 2.

Insert that number into "injection mode" under user adjustable tab.


The latest firmware/maps (firmware 31 if available to you) uses the following maps...

Map 1 (is map 1)
Map 2 (is map 2)
Map 3 (N/A Mode)

Map 4 (Progressive meth map)

When on map 4, your blinkers will illuminate showing methanol is flowing.

You can also datalog your car, and read the output of debug byte 7.

If your on older firmware like 29

Map 1 is 1
Map 2 is 2
Map 3 is progressive Meth map, again blinkers will illuminate when methanol is flowing over "12" injection mode.

Labonte failsafe has 3 wires....

Red Power
black Ground
Green (NOT USED)
blue(To Procede).
wow thank you so much man, I really apriciate it , I owe you
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