[kushtrim]

hey guys because I'm not having the money for coilovers I'm thinking about getting some springs to lower the car but am not sure if I should get the h&r race or sport , what do you guys think ? thanx .

[RyanVQ10]

Race like me

[LaLakers91tc]

sport is low enough that it looks great, but is still daily drivable with no fears of driveways
My car is on H&R sports, and I really think its a great drop
If you want an extreme drop though race is the way to go

[LemonIce]

R@ce!

[kushtrim]

I just font want to fill up the gap in the front , race looks really nice Ijust don't want to scrap my bumper.

[JBiddy]

youll be fine with sports, ride is gonna be super harsh. deff gonna need shocks.

[kushtrim]

Originally Posted by JBiddy

youll be fine with sports, ride is gonna be super harsh. deff gonna need shocks.

sal is getting me the bmw performenc shocks for a good price .

[JhnR]

i scrape with H$R sports. sometimes i wonder if i got the race ones instead...

no fender gap all around, maybe a little on the back since i have 245's on

[kushtrim]

thanx guys

[RyanVQ10]

I HAVE THE RACE ON STOCK SPORTS SHOCKS & THE RIDE IS REALLY GOOD.MIND YOU I DRIVE MY CAR EVERYDAY BROOKLYN, QUEENS, LI EVERYWHERE, HAVENT HAD ANY PROBS YET. ITS BEEN 2 WEEKS NOW. It just boils down to your personal prefrence. Me personaly the race isnt that low, no probs going up driveways or anything. all in all = +1. Im Not going to put on coilovers beacuse how often do you use it to its full potiential?. if your a track guy makes sence. My g35 has a full tien superstreet suspension with edfc, camber amrms, etc full complete set up and it was truly a waste of money because i never really use it.

[JBiddy]

Originally Posted by RyanVQ10

I HAVE THE RACE ON STOCK SPORTS SHOCKS & THE RIDE IS REALLY GOOD.MIND YOU I DRIVE MY CAR EVERYDAY BROOKLYN, QUEENS, LI EVERYWHERE, HAVENT HAD ANY PROBS YET. ITS BEEN 2 WEEKS NOW. It just boils down to your personal prefrence. Me personaly the race isnt that low, no probs going up driveways or anything. all in all = +1. Im Not going to put on coilovers beacuse how often do you use it to its full potiential?. if your a track guy makes sence. My g35 has a full tien superstreet suspension with edfc, camber amrms, etc full complete set up and it was truly a waste of money because i never really use it.

yeah you've only had it for two weeks. wait till you have them for 2 months and the stock shocks are crapped out.

the performance shocks are deff a better alternative. they did them on a 135 not too long ago and the car came out GREAT!

[LaLakers91tc]

Originally Posted by JhnR

i scrape with H$R sports. sometimes i wonder if i got the race ones instead...

no fender gap all around, maybe a little on the back since i have 245's on

sport has no gap as well
on my car, I actually ended up needing a fender roll, and there is barely enough room to poke a finger in there
I am running 265's though

Originally Posted by RyanVQ10

I HAVE THE RACE ON STOCK SPORTS SHOCKS & THE RIDE IS REALLY GOOD.MIND YOU I DRIVE MY CAR EVERYDAY BROOKLYN, QUEENS, LI EVERYWHERE, HAVENT HAD ANY PROBS YET. ITS BEEN 2 WEEKS NOW. It just boils down to your personal prefrence. Me personaly the race isnt that low, no probs going up driveways or anything. all in all = +1. Im Not going to put on coilovers beacuse how often do you use it to its full potiential?. if your a track guy makes sence. My g35 has a full tien superstreet suspension with edfc, camber amrms, etc full complete set up and it was truly a waste of money because i never really use it.

give the springs time to settle, within a few months the car will drop quite a bit more, and your stock (im assuming sport) shocks will need replacing soon

Also, your definition of a good ride is subjective
I though my H&R's with stock shocks rode pretty well until I sat in nick's (lemans335xie90) car with kw v3's slammed even lower than my car
My ZSP shocks are on the home stretch of their lifetime, so I will likely get koni yellows by spring time, or If i feel really spendy, coilovers.

[RyanVQ10]

I will be replacing the shocks to koni. But my question to you guys did you deal with this situation or are you guys recycling stuff off the net. I deal with the first hand experience, not that grapevine shit some people roll with. Show me soild evidence that race or any spings ruin your stock shocks.
I'm riding on 19 x8.5 +30 19x10 +26 on race and no rubbing. 235/35 upfront 265/30in the rear. Just goes to show self proclaimed experts don't know shit. Best advice don't listen to everyone because some people just talk out of there ass.

[kushtrim]

it seems like every body ends up getting diffrent shocks after a whil cuz the stock ones done make it , so figured I might just get them now ensted of paying install twice . i guess I will go with sport if there wound be no gap in front .. I most say that the race one on ryans car look sick I just think I might be to low for BX rouds .

[LaLakers91tc]

Originally Posted by RyanVQ10

I will be replacing the shocks to koni. But my question to you guys did you deal with this situation or are you guys recycling stuff off the net. I deal with the first hand experience, not that grapevine shit some people roll with. Show me soild evidence that race or any spings ruin your stock shocks.
I'm riding on 19 x8.5 +30 19x10 +26 on race and no rubbing. 235/35 upfront 265/30in the rear. Just goes to show self proclaimed experts don't know shit. Best advice don't listen to everyone because some people just talk out of there ass.

Yes, I have dealt with the stuff I mentioned
Im approaching 15000 miles/10 months on the stock sport shocks and the ride is deteriorating pretty quickly,
Next meet you are more than welcome to sit in my car with the stock shocks near the end of their life cycle, and then compare them to someone with fresh shocks, or better after market ones
It is still bearable, but I know its time for an upgrade pretty soon, first thing in the spring hopefully.

As for the reason why they blow out the stock shocks so rapidly, I am sure any of the resident experts can chime in for a proper answer, but as far as I can tell with logic, the stock shocks are designed to work with stock spring travel, and with the drop, they are constantly ~halfway compressed, and have much less room to dissipate the force of impact, so that results in them constantly being under more stress, and it also explains why the ride is harsher, since more force ends up making it through the suspension to you

And with the settling, I also experienced that first hand, as I thought the car was sitting high when I first dropped it, but over the time I've had em, the drop has dropped significantly. Anyone who has springs can attest to this

And I had mild rubbing on mine when I had passengers in my car/ a full tank, but that is an easy fix with a fender roll.

Originally Posted by kushtrim

it seems like every body ends up getting diffrent shocks after a whil cuz the stock ones done make it , so figured I might just get them now ensted of paying install twice . i guess I will go with sport if there wound be no gap in front .. I most say that the race one on ryans car look sick I just think I might be to low for BX rouds .

That's definitely a smart idea to do the install all at once

Also, dont rush the decision
A quick search of the forums will yeild a ton of pictures of h&r sport vs race springs so you can choose for yourself what drop you prefer

[tofu-]

if you're going to pay for shocks, why not just buy a set of used coils? there are so many practically new ones going on sale here for under $1k.

[kushtrim]

i did search and it seems like most have sports , I also PM some guys with the sport and they said that there is no gap and they was happy .. the pix i see r mostly bad quality and I can't really tell the diffrence .

[redline2001]

How come no one goes with the BMW performance suspension. Im talking about the ones with the yellow spring that are available for the coupes.

[Bogo Shipyo]

relax people

ive been riding H&R sport w factory sport shocks for 45 k without any problem ( installed by the infamous Boopie himself ) but i do believe its going to go soon

Any springs that compresses the factory shock will definitely put a lot of wear and tear on it. SOME are less fortunate and some like myself are lucky.
Race will put a lot more stress over sport !

I would definitely recommend coilovers first but like you - i myself also went the cheap route and took a gamble - dont get me wrong i dont regret it at all

Heres a pic of how it look
first 3 is when i first install the springs with 18inch( haven't settle in yet )
and the last is how it is now currently with 19s






Please note that it is NYC - for me race was to crazy - potholes / in and out of gas station / driveways and etc.

Take a step back and think it through before you make up your mind

p.s. ryan i would love to sit in your ride. As i never witness any car with a drop more then an inch consider good (spring and stock shocks ) Especially going through the bqe/belt and certain parts of the FDR.

kim

[kushtrim]

looks good , thanx for the pix bro

[PandaBear]

save up for coilovers don't get springs, unless you plan on selling your car or its a lease.

[kushtrim]

Originally Posted by PandaBear

save up for coilovers don't get springs, unless you plan on selling your car or its a lease.

its to much bro , I also want to get some other mods that's why I don't want to spendso
much money on coilovers .