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      12-10-2010, 05:30 AM   #1
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1M Powered by N54 from 335is; Tuning Parts Direct Swap?

Just read this morning about the new 1M which has the same N54 powering the 35is models.

When I swap my 335i for one of these, intake, intercooler, dps and Procede will be a direct swap correct? Any special Procede maps for this car?
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      12-10-2010, 06:39 AM   #2
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Is that for sure confirmed that it is the exact same motor/turbos?
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It's actually from a Z4 35is (340HP) not the 335is (320HP).
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Looks just like under my hood + stock intake of course.
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      12-10-2010, 11:45 AM   #5
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Hmmmmm is bmw maybe getting a brain and decided to add LSD to this one?
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      12-10-2010, 12:12 PM   #6
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Hmmmmm is bmw maybe getting a brain and decided to add LSD to this one?
Yes, they have! Did you just land on this planet an hour ago?
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The intake is slightly different than the regular n54
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      12-10-2010, 01:37 PM   #8
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i cant believe that called this an 'M'
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why not?
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      12-10-2010, 01:43 PM   #10
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i cant believe that called this an 'M'
But...but... it has 7 second overboost.
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why not?
+1 ?? When you still had your 335 didnt you feel the N54 was a superior engine? Why not used it but enhance it right out of the box instead of having to modify it like we are, so in essence bring it to the market as an "M" model and having superior power already
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+1 ?? When you still had your 335 didnt you feel the N54 was a superior engine? Why not used it but enhance it right out of the box instead of having to modify it like we are, so in essence bring it to the market as an "M" model and having superior power already
I agree, all "m" means is a better starting platform, BASED on the same engines and body as the "non-m." I think a lot of you M owners like to pay for a badge. I can make a car just a fast and track ready for much less than an M costs.

EDIT: as a matter of fact, I smoked an e92 M3 with about $5k in extras(only reason I knew that is bc his friend told me). That M badge did him little good when I passed by him.
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EDIT: as a matter of fact, I smoked an e92 M3 with about $5k in extras(only reason I knew that is bc his friend told me). That M badge did him little good when I passed by him.

Was that on a straight line or on a track course?
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+1 ?? When you still had your 335 didnt you feel the N54 was a superior engine? Why not used it but enhance it right out of the box instead of having to modify it like we are, so in essence bring it to the market as an "M" model and having superior power already
superior to what? Its all relative. Superior to a Porsche straight 6 making 400hp+.....no. Superior to an infiniti v6...yes.


simple,
they could have made a better engine that was designed for track use, the n54 is not that.

a track car aka 'M' should have peak HP at redline. You can build a turbo motor with gobs of low TQ that still doesnt fall on its face at redline.

the n54 in the 1M has peak HP at 5,900rpms........thats big block territory as far as rpms go. from 5900 to 7,000 your actually on the decline.

as far as I can tell the 1M is a 135 w aftermarket bolt-ons. they could have at least put better snails on it.

My opinion.
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Was that on a straight line or on a track course?
Straight line, I know you will tell me that I will not hold up at the track, but I beg to differ. The straight line accel. was enough in my favor that the M's conering wouldnt make up that much diff. unless the track was all twistes. Plus, when i get an lsd and suspension it wouldnt even be close. Take a look at the Stage 3 dinan vs m3 vid on youtube. M3 BARELY won and the dinan stage 3 is far less power than my set up.
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Just read this morning about the new 1M which has the same N54 powering the 35is models.

When I swap my 335i for one of these, intake, intercooler, dps and Procede will be a direct swap correct? Any special Procede maps for this car?
I see no reason why not, that'll be cool you can reuse your parts! money well invested.. and the M comes with an LSD and gorgeous wide fenders..
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Straight line, I know you will tell me that I will not hold up at the track, but I beg to differ. The straight line accel. was enough in my favor that the M's conering wouldnt make up that much diff. unless the track was all twistes. Plus, when i get an lsd and suspension it wouldnt even be close. Take a look at the Stage 3 dinan vs m3 vid on youtube. M3 BARELY won and the dinan stage 3 is far less power than my set up.
you know the old modding game. You mod, why cant the other car?

n54 > s65 on the street

n54 < s65 on the track

start modding each the same amount and it doesnt change.
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Straight line, I know you will tell me that I will not hold up at the track, but I beg to differ. The straight line accel. was enough in my favor that the M's conering wouldnt make up that much diff. unless the track was all twistes. Plus, when i get an lsd and suspension it wouldnt even be close. Take a look at the Stage 3 dinan vs m3 vid on youtube. M3 BARELY won and the dinan stage 3 is far less power than my set up.
I used to have Dinan, its very conservative compared to the piggy backs. Kid you not, day and night difference going to a piggy back, so thats old news.
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Could be nice to know a bit more about the flywheel, Itīs mentioned somewhere in the pressreleace it has a sportier flywheel
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I agree, all "m" means is a better starting platform, BASED on the same engines and body as the "non-m." I think a lot of you M owners like to pay for a badge. I can make a car just a fast and track ready for much less than an M costs.

EDIT: as a matter of fact, I smoked an e92 M3 with about $5k in extras(only reason I knew that is bc his friend told me). That M badge did him little good when I passed by him.
Yeah, you can build a go kart and smoke Porsches, but you're still driving go kart my friend
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you know the old modding game. You mod, why cant the other car?

n54 > s65 on the street

n54 < s65 on the track

start modding each the same amount and it doesnt change.
Its not the same $$, you gotta compare apples to apples. I take the n54 at 30k and dump 15k into it and I will dust the s65 while saving money and its custom...which I like.
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I used to have Dinan, its very conservative compared to the piggy backs. Kid you not, day and night difference going to a piggy back, so thats old news.
Thats exactly my point, dinan wont touch my setup, therefore I believe if it were my car in the video doing the comparo with the M3, I would have won by a good margin.

[/QUOTE]Yeah, you can build a go kart and smoke Porsches, but you're still driving go kart my friend.[/QUOTE]

Stage 3 335i is a go-kart??
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