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shipill · 02-07-2007, 10:13 PM

Hi everyone !

What do you guys think of jeremy clarkson? I dont understand why this guy always says bad about BMW , and good about AUDI !!!

BMW F22 · 02-07-2007, 10:15 PM

he doesnt always put BMW down. ITs just how he does stuff. He's pretty straight forward.

edgarj · 02-07-2007, 10:16 PM

Why don't we discuss something less controversial, like abortion.

Clarkson loved the M6 vert, and the CSL review he did was almost pornographic in describing how much he loved it. He actually liked the 335i coupe overall, but he hated the looks.

shipill · 02-07-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarj

Why don't we discuss something less controversial, like abortion.

If you use condom you dont need to do that :P

ironic · 02-07-2007, 10:22 PM

I just watched the second episode of this season, the shocks on the new tt ar epretty cool

shipill · 02-07-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ironic

I just watched the second episode of this season, the shocks on the new tt ar epretty cool

AUDI TT = TOY

edgarj · 02-07-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by shipill

AUDI TT = TOY

He called the old TT the "titty"

Couch · 02-07-2007, 10:40 PM

I like Clarkson. Yes, he's way over critical to anything that's not British, but in a way we're all that way to one degree or another.

ChineseGuy · 02-07-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shipill

Hi everyone !

What do you guys think of jeremy clarkson? I dont understand why this guy always says bad about BMW , and good about AUDI !!!

you gotta stop taking things too seriously

we all know that jeremy likes to exagerate and make you think that his opinons are facts

spydrz · 02-07-2007, 10:53 PM

Jezza's hilarious; but don't take him seriously. He hates some cars just because Tiff likes them on Fifth Gear. I enjoy the fact that he dares to be un-PC in the UK...

edgarj · 02-07-2007, 11:46 PM

Clarkson reminds me of EVERY car nut I know. Everyone has passionate reactions to different cars when you reach Clarkson's level of virtuosity on the subject. Think about music snobs (like me, sadly)... and their view on top-40 music. To the average music listener, it's sounds like biased nit-picking, but to the enthusiast, the claims they make are very grounded in their passionate study of the subject. Clarkson compares every car he reviews to his ideal car. He'd advise my mom to get an Ariel Atom 300 over her Volvo without reservation, and when he reviews a 335i, he's comparing it to a TVR Sagaris or the like. I admire his frankeness, as mad is at comes off when you're used to banal Autoweek-style objectivity, but to me it makes total sense and is very refreshing in contrast to every other car-review show. I'd never buy a daily driver based on JC's recommendation, but I really don't buy any car based on anybody's recommendation. It's great TV, and JC's the Lester Bangs of auto journos.

just4kickz · 02-08-2007, 12:32 AM

haha like when he talks about the s3... he says he hates the whole front engine concept and the tiptronic or dsg or whatever its called because its not a manual

ChineseGuy · 02-08-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by just4kickz

haha like when he talks about the s3... he says he hates the whole front engine concept and the tiptronic or dsg or whatever its called because its not a manual

i do agree wit the front engine part though....

but dsg is not bad....it's not THAT great either though....

NFS · 02-08-2007, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shipill

Hi everyone !

What do you guys think of jeremy clarkson? I dont understand why this guy always says bad about BMW , and good about AUDI !!!

I'm reading a Clarkson book at the moment. It's a compliation of some of his old columns for the Sunday times.

There is one story about a drunken evening with the previous top gear team (Clarkson, Tiff Needel and Quentin Wilson), which explans a lot about the way Clarkson thinks.

Tiff announced that he was going to get an M5, which the others found ridiculous.

What became clear is that Clarkson was more interested in the noise a car makes and the way it felt, than it's handling and speed. He would rather waste time doing dirty great power slides than take the perfect racing line.

I like Tiff's thinking - he want's the car with the best point to point speed.

Simple as that.

Jessa doesn't get on with BMW's because he doesn't consider their main focus - handling and drivetrain - to be the key to a good car.

Joop! · 02-11-2007, 06:36 PM

^^ Well said

A Documentary on Top Gear (1997) of the M1, M3, M5 and CSL with Tiff Needell shows Tiff hitting the "face" of Jeremy in the end.

Last E92 M3 · 02-11-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWE90

he doesnt always put BMW down. ITs just how he does stuff. He's pretty straight forward.

i like him for that reason and topgear.
very straight forward and seems unbiased to any cars (probably because he drove almost every single "nice" cars out there)

worth watching every episode.

SpecC · 02-11-2007, 08:37 PM

he certainly isn't afraid to say what he thinks outside of the competitions which is why top gear is so fun to watch. if the car sucks, then he says it sucks. but if it rocks, then you get a good review. honesty

sstarch1 · 02-12-2007, 09:38 AM

Where does he review the new e92 335i?

TheAcAvenger · 02-12-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by edgarj

Clarkson reminds me of EVERY car nut I know. Everyone has passionate reactions to different cars when you reach Clarkson's level of virtuosity on the subject. Think about music snobs (like me, sadly)... and their view on top-40 music. To the average music listener, it's sounds like biased nit-picking, but to the enthusiast, the claims they make are very grounded in their passionate study of the subject. Clarkson compares every car he reviews to his ideal car. He'd advise my mom to get an Ariel Atom 300 over her Volvo without reservation, and when he reviews a 335i, he's comparing it to a TVR Sagaris or the like. I admire his frankeness, as mad is at comes off when you're used to banal Autoweek-style objectivity, but to me it makes total sense and is very refreshing in contrast to every other car-review show. I'd never buy a daily driver based on JC's recommendation, but I really don't buy any car based on anybody's recommendation. It's great TV, and JC's the Lester Bangs of auto journos.

+1

- Paul - · 02-12-2007, 10:59 AM

Last nights episode was hilarious - they buy 3 bangers in America and drive 'em around. I won't spoil it.

booforty · 02-12-2007, 11:11 AM

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Last nights episode was hilarious - they buy 3 bangers in America and drive 'em around. I won't spoil it.

Yeah, it was superb!!! Can't wait to hear what the Americans think of that episode!!! I was in stitches!!

- Paul - · 02-12-2007, 11:22 AM

The viewing figures (or should I say download figures) may drop

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edgarj Captain 32 Rep 815 Posts Drives: 335i e92 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Marcos, TX iTrader: (1)	Why don't we discuss something less controversial, like abortion. Clarkson loved the M6 vert, and the CSL review he did was almost pornographic in describing how much he loved it. He actually liked the 335i coupe overall, but he hated the looks.
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edgarj Captain 32 Rep 815 Posts Drives: 335i e92 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Marcos, TX iTrader: (1)	Clarkson reminds me of EVERY car nut I know. Everyone has passionate reactions to different cars when you reach Clarkson's level of virtuosity on the subject. Think about music snobs (like me, sadly)... and their view on top-40 music. To the average music listener, it's sounds like biased nit-picking, but to the enthusiast, the claims they make are very grounded in their passionate study of the subject. Clarkson compares every car he reviews to his ideal car. He'd advise my mom to get an Ariel Atom 300 over her Volvo without reservation, and when he reviews a 335i, he's comparing it to a TVR Sagaris or the like. I admire his frankeness, as mad is at comes off when you're used to banal Autoweek-style objectivity, but to me it makes total sense and is very refreshing in contrast to every other car-review show. I'd never buy a daily driver based on JC's recommendation, but I really don't buy any car based on anybody's recommendation. It's great TV, and JC's the Lester Bangs of auto journos.
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