2 New Zaino Products!! Z-CS, Z-AIO

335I talian Stallion NJ · 02-08-2007, 06:19 AM

Check it out, these sound amazing... and time saving!!! Picus, any thoughts?? :rocks:

http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...duct_Code=Z-CS

http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...uct_Code=Z-AIO

Josh49 · 02-08-2007, 08:40 AM

Just read through those. I'm curious how they will work..

Josh49 · 02-08-2007, 08:44 AM

How long does it take to apply Z-CS?
It takes us about 5 minutes to complete the average vehicle.

^^^5 minutes? I understand it is faster but how the hell could you wipe this on every surface of your car in 5 minutes!! Man, they have speedy gonzales working at their company!!

nmulax · 02-08-2007, 09:13 AM

sweet... more toys to add to the detailing cabinet.

"While not required, for the ULTIMATE in paint protection and an INCREDIBLE show car finish, use Z-AIO, followed by 2 coats of ZFX enabled Z-5 PRO, then 1 coat of Z-2 PRO (including a Z-6 wipe down between coats) and finish off with an application of Z-CS. Wait 12 hours, then wipe down the vehicle with Z-8. Get your sunglasses out, the gloss may be blinding."

Wow... that's a whole lot of work.

picus · 02-08-2007, 09:20 AM

These were announced awhile ago - they should be out soon. I am eager to try both. CS seems nice but I actually enjoy the buff off process, it lets me find any spots I missed and it's theraputic. Z-AIO looks very good, it's going to be tough for it to be better than Werkstatt Prime (another great chemical cleaner), but if anyone can do it it's Sal.

Oh, re: 5 minutes - they are probably using a PC.

Josh49 · 02-08-2007, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by picus

These were announced awhile ago - they should be out soon. I am eager to try both. CS seems nice but I actually enjoy the buff off process, it lets me find any spots I missed and it's theraputic. Z-AIO looks very good, it's going to be tough for it to be better than Werkstatt Prime (another great chemical cleaner), but if anyone can do it it's Sal.

Oh, re: 5 minutes - they are probably using a PC.

Wow.. 5 minutes.. I should really thinking of getting myself one of those things, huh??

Quick question though - in one of your pictures I saw all of the seals are blue taped. Do you do this every time, or only when you are polishing?

picus · 02-08-2007, 12:16 PM

Only when I am polishing; the sealants/waxes I use won't stain trim, so they are ok on any part of the car. Polishes can stain trim and even more a concern - a rotary will shred plastic pretty quickly (a PC won't), so the tape goes on when polishing. I take the tape off after polishing before the alcohol rubdown.

Josh49 · 02-08-2007, 01:43 PM

Thanks Picus. Let us know any comments you have about the products when/if you use them...

ScBlacksunshine · 02-08-2007, 01:49 PM

I am kind of over Zainos product. Been using FK 1000P or PW with 2180 as basecoast with great result

Not to mention QD 425 is one of the slickest QD out on the market (and it does windows too)

picus · 02-08-2007, 02:12 PM

FK is nice stuff, huh? Kind of overlooked, but quality products; inexpensive too. It's nice to have options.

ScBlacksunshine · 02-08-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by picus

FK is nice stuff, huh? Kind of overlooked, but quality products; inexpensive too. It's nice to have options.

Been very impress with it so far, FK is kind of the hidden gem,epsically the QD 425, I can't say enough good things about. I only found out through autopia forum. Cheap/good quantity in a bottle and long lasting

Josh49 · 02-08-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ScBlacksunshine

Been very impress with it so far, FK is kind of the hidden gem,epsically the QD 425, I can't say enough good things about. I only found out through autopia forum. Cheap/good quantity in a bottle and long lasting

Could you post a link, I wouldn't mind taking a look..

Thanks,

Josh

ScBlacksunshine · 02-08-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh49

Could you post a link, I wouldn't mind taking a look..

Thanks,

Josh

Here you go, you can also check out user feedback on Autopia.org and search for FK pink wax/1000P/425/2180

http://www.fk1usa.com/

picus · 02-08-2007, 02:36 PM

425 is a real gem; the only qd I've used with reasonable anti-static qualities that actually do something.

335I talian Stallion NJ · 02-08-2007, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by picus

These were announced awhile ago - they should be out soon. I am eager to try both. CS seems nice but I actually enjoy the buff off process, it lets me find any spots I missed and it's theraputic. Z-AIO looks very good, it's going to be tough for it to be better than Werkstatt Prime (another great chemical cleaner), but if anyone can do it it's Sal.

Oh, re: 5 minutes - they are probably using a PC.

Picus, would I use z-aio instead of z2/z5?

picus · 02-08-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 335I talian Stallion NJ

Picus, would I use z-aio instead of z2/z5?

Z-AIO is going to be a product like Klasse All-In-One, in that it'll be a light polish, chemical cleaner, and sealant base. So you *can* use it as you're only sealant layer, but like AIO is normally topped with Klasse HGSG, most guys will want to follow ZAIO up with Z2, Z5, CS, or a combination thereof.

Judging by Zaino's current durability, and the penchant of sealant bases to *add* durability, I can see ZAIO+Z2/Z5 lasting quite a long time.

shimshimhada · 02-12-2007, 01:32 AM

I am letting the fine members of Autopia test these out and compare it to the Werkstatt stuff. If indeed CS and Z-AIO is superior, then I can switch to 90% Zaino stuff again.

younghov85 · 02-12-2007, 08:17 AM

So can you just use the all-in-one, and skip using the rest of their vast products, like in the showroom package?

picus · 02-12-2007, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by younghov85

So can you just use the all-in-one, and skip using the rest of their vast products, like in the showroom package?

Quote:

Originally Posted by picus

Z-AIO is going to be a product like Klasse All-In-One, in that it'll be a light polish, chemical cleaner, and sealant base. So you *can* use it as you're only sealant layer, but like AIO is normally topped with Klasse HGSG, most guys will want to follow ZAIO up with Z2, Z5, CS, or a combination thereof.

Judging by Zaino's current durability, and the penchant of sealant bases to *add* durability, I can see ZAIO+Z2/Z5 lasting quite a long time.

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bimmernotbeamer · 02-12-2007, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by younghov85

So can you just use the all-in-one, and skip using the rest of their vast products, like in the showroom package?

Like Picus said, you can. However, I would also recommend using Z2 or Z5 on top of the ZAIO. And that's it. You don't have to worry about using any other products. That process is still simple.

picus · 02-12-2007, 12:26 PM

I personally can't wait to try ZAIO+Z5pro. Z5pro already lasts for flippin' ever and looks good, so it'll be nice to see it in conjunction with a chemical cleaner designed to work with it.

bimmernotbeamer · 02-13-2007, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by picus

I personally can't wait to try ZAIO+Z5pro. Z5pro already lasts for flippin' ever and looks good, so it'll be nice to see it in conjunction with a chemical cleaner designed to work with it.

I'm interested to see how all the products look together. This is probably what I'll be doing Zaino-wise after my prep:

1. ZPC
2. ZAIO (I know, it's redundant with the ZPC step, but I still want to try it!

)
3. Z5 w/ZFX x 3 with Z6 between coats
4. ZCS
5. Z8 the next day

02-08-2007, 06:19 AM	#1
335I talian Stallion NJ Captain 59 Rep 731 Posts Drives: 04 Z4 3.0I Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northern NJ iTrader: (0)	2 New Zaino Products!! Z-CS, Z-AIO Check it out, these sound amazing... and time saving!!! Picus, any thoughts?? :rocks: http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...duct_Code=Z-CS http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...uct_Code=Z-AIO
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02-08-2007, 08:40 AM	#2
Josh49 Major General 266 Rep 6,664 Posts Drives: E90 325xi Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (33)	Just read through those. I'm curious how they will work.. __________________ E90 325XI, MYSTIC BLUE ON BLACK/ALUM, STEP, NAV, PDC, CWP, XENON, SIRIUS, ALARM, MUD GUARDS, CLEARBRA, CHROME GRILLS AND TIPS, VALENTINE 1 (HARDWIRED), HO CERAMIC 40%, 161'S, REAR FOG MOD, LUX 4.0, BLACKLINES, OEM PEDALS, MTEC FOGS, GRUPPE-M REP INTAKE. 156'S AND RUBBER MATS FOR THE WINTER.
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Josh49 Major General 266 Rep 6,664 Posts Drives: E90 325xi Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (33)	How long does it take to apply Z-CS? It takes us about 5 minutes to complete the average vehicle. ^^^5 minutes? I understand it is faster but how the hell could you wipe this on every surface of your car in 5 minutes!! Man, they have speedy gonzales working at their company!! __________________ E90 325XI, MYSTIC BLUE ON BLACK/ALUM, STEP, NAV, PDC, CWP, XENON, SIRIUS, ALARM, MUD GUARDS, CLEARBRA, CHROME GRILLS AND TIPS, VALENTINE 1 (HARDWIRED), HO CERAMIC 40%, 161'S, REAR FOG MOD, LUX 4.0, BLACKLINES, OEM PEDALS, MTEC FOGS, GRUPPE-M REP INTAKE. 156'S AND RUBBER MATS FOR THE WINTER.
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nmulax Brigadier General 407 Rep 4,320 Posts Drives: '07 Z4 M Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: Metro-Detroit iTrader: (5) Garage List 2007 Z4M Coupé [7.66]	sweet... more toys to add to the detailing cabinet. "While not required, for the ULTIMATE in paint protection and an INCREDIBLE show car finish, use Z-AIO, followed by 2 coats of ZFX enabled Z-5 PRO, then 1 coat of Z-2 PRO (including a Z-6 wipe down between coats) and finish off with an application of Z-CS. Wait 12 hours, then wipe down the vehicle with Z-8. Get your sunglasses out, the gloss may be blinding." Wow... that's a whole lot of work. __________________
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picus Brigadier General 127 Rep 4,172 Posts Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	These were announced awhile ago - they should be out soon. I am eager to try both. CS seems nice but I actually enjoy the buff off process, it lets me find any spots I missed and it's theraputic. Z-AIO looks very good, it's going to be tough for it to be better than Werkstatt Prime (another great chemical cleaner), but if anyone can do it it's Sal. Oh, re: 5 minutes - they are probably using a PC.
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picus Brigadier General 127 Rep 4,172 Posts Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	Only when I am polishing; the sealants/waxes I use won't stain trim, so they are ok on any part of the car. Polishes can stain trim and even more a concern - a rotary will shred plastic pretty quickly (a PC won't), so the tape goes on when polishing. I take the tape off after polishing before the alcohol rubdown.
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Josh49 Major General 266 Rep 6,664 Posts Drives: E90 325xi Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (33)	Thanks Picus. Let us know any comments you have about the products when/if you use them... __________________ E90 325XI, MYSTIC BLUE ON BLACK/ALUM, STEP, NAV, PDC, CWP, XENON, SIRIUS, ALARM, MUD GUARDS, CLEARBRA, CHROME GRILLS AND TIPS, VALENTINE 1 (HARDWIRED), HO CERAMIC 40%, 161'S, REAR FOG MOD, LUX 4.0, BLACKLINES, OEM PEDALS, MTEC FOGS, GRUPPE-M REP INTAKE. 156'S AND RUBBER MATS FOR THE WINTER.
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ScBlacksunshine YUGO is my dream car 150 Rep 1,564 Posts Drives: Bayerische Motoren Werke Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: LBC iTrader: (2)	I am kind of over Zainos product. Been using FK 1000P or PW with 2180 as basecoast with great result Not to mention QD 425 is one of the slickest QD out on the market (and it does windows too) __________________
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picus Brigadier General 127 Rep 4,172 Posts Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	FK is nice stuff, huh? Kind of overlooked, but quality products; inexpensive too. It's nice to have options.
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picus Brigadier General 127 Rep 4,172 Posts Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	425 is a real gem; the only qd I've used with reasonable anti-static qualities that actually do something.
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02-12-2007, 01:32 AM	#17
shimshimhada Brigadier General 502 Rep 4,838 Posts Drives: Portal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portal iTrader: (2)	I am letting the fine members of Autopia test these out and compare it to the Werkstatt stuff. If indeed CS and Z-AIO is superior, then I can switch to 90% Zaino stuff again.
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younghov85 Captain 70 Rep 889 Posts Drives: 2006 E90 black 325 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lanham, Maryland iTrader: (0)	So can you just use the all-in-one, and skip using the rest of their vast products, like in the showroom package?
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picus Brigadier General 127 Rep 4,172 Posts Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	I personally can't wait to try ZAIO+Z5pro. Z5pro already lasts for flippin' ever and looks good, so it'll be nice to see it in conjunction with a chemical cleaner designed to work with it.
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