PROcede V5 update from Shiv (6AT misfire, ignition advance preview)

themyst · 01-06-2011, 01:43 AM

Shiv asked me to post some of the results from our 6AT cold weather testing.

1. - 6AT misfire issue fixed. Was an issue with CPS voltage, SHOULD be resolved globally for all 6ATs now. Tested on two cars up to a 4-5 shift at redline without issue. FWIW, my car misfired the 2-3 and 3-4 shift all the time before the fix.

2. - the 6AT ran virtually no boost taper on meth without misfire or issue. Tested up to 18psi.

3. - A video, which doesn't really show much except some amusing color commentary from Iwantm3, which will preview ignition advance. Ran about 14-15 psi with 3 degrees of ignition advance on methanol, no misfire at redline on a 3-4 pull.

4. - The SnowPerformance SafeInjection unit works flawlessly with the PROcede

Expect an update from Shiv himself, along with public 6AT maps within a week or so.

PKumarM3 · 01-06-2011, 01:55 AM

wow thats great u finally got that fixed!

i knew shiv wouldn't let this go without a fix

Alan l. · 01-06-2011, 02:36 AM

Was this mis fire issue isolated to just the AT guys in cold weather?

I wish I could have came out tonight to meet the legend himself! I live only a few blocks away.

Alan

themyst · 01-06-2011, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan l.

Was this mis fire issue isolated to just the AT guys in cold weather?

I wish I could have came out tonight to meet the legend himself! I live only a few blocks away.

Alan

That seems to be the case. The 6AT "fix" will be sent out to others who are misfiring for testing. My car and Iwantm3's car were highly misfire prone, and both of our cars no longer exhibit a misfire. I'm pretty confident in the fix personally.

Iwantm3 · 01-06-2011, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Was this mis fire issue isolated to just the AT guys in cold weather?

I wish I could have came out tonight to meet the legend himself! I live only a few blocks away.

Alan

lol yeah you should of I was fucking with Shiv telling him there's a rumor LostMarine is coming to get him with a shot gun ahahaha

Iwantm3 · 01-06-2011, 02:46 AM

LOL at the video, the car felt so strong with timing advance

TurboBimmer · 01-06-2011, 02:54 AM

Good news! Do the new maps also solve the misfires when traction control (DTC) kicks in?

badass335 · 01-06-2011, 02:57 AM

AMEN!!!! It wasn't the car after all!!! I'm going to call shiv tomorrow to get this on my bloody car!! I gave up on procede because of this!

shockin330i · 01-06-2011, 03:04 AM

I wonder if this effects the n55 guys too. I've had my share of limp modes with 14psi max settings...

**335i** · 01-06-2011, 04:12 AM

it looks like for at only? hope they will update my v5 with newest soft looks like my v5 still not sent to me waiting

enrita · 01-06-2011, 04:34 AM

rismo · 01-06-2011, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

Good news! Do the new maps also solve the misfires when traction control (DTC) kicks in?

Was dealing with the same over here, changed my plug and ignition coil, did not solve it.

But now, some weeks later, it seems to be gone... don't know what happend...and I do not have the time to dig in further..

TurboBimmer · 01-06-2011, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rismo123

Was dealing with the same over here, changed my plug and ignition coil, did not solve it.

But now, some weeks later, it seems to be gone... don't know what happend...and I do not have the time to dig in further..

On my car it just appeared after changing plugs and coils. Strange...

Lately I avoided pushing the car to the point where it misfires, as I don't want to deliberately damage the engine

I'll give the new maps a try.

Jake@MOTIV · 01-06-2011, 06:15 AM

so this update for all cars (at and 6mt) allows the car to actually advance timing up to 3 degrees over stock timing curve IN boost?! what did the timing curve look like? any logs? thats pretty great - meth is a hell of a drug

cn555ic · 01-06-2011, 08:04 AM

Thats awesome...I came out to Ceasars Bay lot yesterday at 11:10pm and there was no one in sight...I wanted to meet Shiv and possible bring him to my house to help me with my nitrous wiring! Oh well the wait continues but I am glad the misfires are gone!

cn555ic · 01-06-2011, 08:09 AM

It pulls really fucking good bee! LOL

themyst · 01-06-2011, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyLow335i

so this update for all cars (at and 6mt) allows the car to actually advance timing up to 3 degrees over stock timing curve IN boost?! what did the timing curve look like? any logs? thats pretty great - meth is a hell of a drug

We tested up to 3 degrees of ignition advance on my car (with methanol) no misfire or issue. I'll let Shiv chime in when ready on what the public maps will have.

dzenno · 01-06-2011, 08:37 AM

Glad you got that under control

cn555ic · 01-06-2011, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themyst

We tested up to 3 degrees of ignition advance on my car (with methanol) no misfire or issue. I'll let Shiv chime in when ready on what the public maps will have.

Timing curves must look really nice especially with the 3 degrees of advance...Is this only with the Methanol activated?

themyst · 01-06-2011, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cn555ic

Timing curves must look really nice especially with the 3 degrees of advance...Is this only with the Methanol activated?

Yeah meth/race, the stock timing set point is far too aggressive for pump gas as it is; I would imagine timing advance is only good for running less boost on methanol and achieving similar results

nuM nuMs · 01-06-2011, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themyst

Yeah meth/race, the stock timing set point is far too aggressive for pump gas as it is; I would imagine timing advance is only good for running less boost on methanol and achieving similar results

I love your sig, since afterall if it wasn't for Sticky bringing this to light, it would have sat in the background for much longer. Isn't this an issue that has been ongoing for sometime now?

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 01-06-2011, 11:33 AM

Good stuff OP

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themyst Major General 189 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	PROcede V5 update from Shiv (6AT misfire, ignition advance preview) Shiv asked me to post some of the results from our 6AT cold weather testing. 1. - 6AT misfire issue fixed. Was an issue with CPS voltage, SHOULD be resolved globally for all 6ATs now. Tested on two cars up to a 4-5 shift at redline without issue. FWIW, my car misfired the 2-3 and 3-4 shift all the time before the fix. 2. - the 6AT ran virtually no boost taper on meth without misfire or issue. Tested up to 18psi. 3. - A video, which doesn't really show much except some amusing color commentary from Iwantm3, which will preview ignition advance. Ran about 14-15 psi with 3 degrees of ignition advance on methanol, no misfire at redline on a 3-4 pull. 4. - The SnowPerformance SafeInjection unit works flawlessly with the PROcede Expect an update from Shiv himself, along with public 6AT maps within a week or so. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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