[P2]

I have to have my hood and trunk lid repaints, fender blended of course. Does anyone know:

1: What paint BMW uses. I went to a certified body shop and I think they said they use Standox but not sure. My local BMW referred me to a referral only place that only specializes in German cars and he say he uses (as well as BMW) something like Glasuidn. Anyone know. I just want it to look the same and be durable. This referral only place says he can replicate the orange peal look on our cars. Very clean booth and little if any wet sanding. The guy I usually use is really good but his work is glass smooth, not what's on the BMW so I'm looking elsewhere.

2: Does anyone think it matters if you repair a hood or replace it with a new BMW part as far as resale goes. The BMW cert place says I should keep the hood because it has the vin # on it. I say toss the bondo and give me a new BMW hood. Of course fixing the hood is more labor and about 60% more expensive.

3: How many coats of clear coat will it take to replicate the original finish? 2?

Thanks

[picus]

1. Glasurit.
2. Get a new hood.
3. It depends on the painter. Usually 2-3.

Replicating orange peel isn't hard. Usually a good painter can do it on the first shot, if not all you need to do is wetsand appropriately then re-clear (or not, if you have a thick clear to start).

[SoYank]

I thought orange peel was not a desired paint condition.

[P2]

Originally Posted by picus

1. Glasurit.
2. Get a new hood.
3. It depends on the painter. Usually 2-3.

Replicating orange peel isn't hard. Usually a good painter can do it on the first shot, if not all you need to do is wetsand appropriately then re-clear (or not, if you have a thick clear to start).

Thanks

Like I said the certified place uses Standox so it must be BMW approved but if BMW uses Glasurit then that's even better.

My gut is telling me a new hood also. No bondo, and cheaper for everyone in the long run. I spoke to a couple of BMW used car dealers and they said it did not matter if it was replaced. May be the vin # matters on a classic like a Shelby but not a regular production car, as special as I feel the BMW is.

My regular guy is $1080 the BMW Cert place is $1900. The difference is fix the hood, blend fenders and R&R every lamp and trim. My regular guy does not see a need to blend and R&R everything. Honesty, on my honda minivan hatch, he did not blend fenders at it is absolutely perfect. On the honda hood he did blend because of chips on the fenders but did not R&R all the lights. Perfect. Seriously, I have never seen better. So I am wondering if the BMW cert place is padding. I would have my regular guy do it, but I want the German paint and his finish is glass smooth like a honda and will not match. Ok now I'm rambling.

Stay warm in Toronto. I spent a lot of time, especially summers just north of you in Haliburton (Drag Lake) at my Dad's place. Still go up with my kids once a summer. Always good memories and great people!

P2

[P2]

Originally Posted by SoYank

I thought orange peel was not a desired paint condition.

I agree, I like glass smooth. But take a look at your clean BMW and you will see a slight orange peal. Part of the BMW character I guess. Regardless of why it's there, I want my repaint to match. A glass smooth hood will stand out.

[mercury26]

You want Glasurit...

Cheers,

Chuck

[oldaccount]

Originally Posted by P2

Part of the BMW character I guess.

part of every mass-produced vehicles' character.

[P2]

Originally Posted by mercury26

You want Glasurit...

Cheers,

Chuck

And that's what I'm getting.

[Biemdreamer]

Why can't BMW assist with obtaining a new hood with a VIN # for individuals who so desire who have a legitimate need for the same? Seems like it wouldn't be that hard to have one primed and the number engraved and shipped over? Anyone?

[P2]

Originally Posted by Biemdreamer

Why can't BMW assist with obtaining a new hood with a VIN # for individuals who so desire who have a legitimate need for the same? Seems like it wouldn't be that hard to have one primed and the number engraved and shipped over? Anyone?

Patrick BMW collision (cert bmw collision place) told me there was a vin number on the hood. I cannot find one. There are stickers that can be replaced. I am going with a guy that will put new replacement stickers on the new hood. Of course that is not really why I am picking him but it's a nice touch. I saw his work yesterday. It's really great. I cannot wait until after winter is over (my choice to wait) to have him fix everything. Anyway I called several dealers and spoke to used car managers. The all said a good paint job, with no bondo is much better then the keeping the original hood in terms of resale. I'm disappointed in Patrick right now.

[celticsfan]

I'm getting my left quarter panel repaired next week. They said that the would have to pound out the dent, bondo it, and repaint it. I also have 2 very small scratches(5-6mm long)and it's into the paint (into metal) on both the left front and rear door as well. They said that they would have to take out the doors/windows and repaint both doors and apply a clear coat afterwards. I'm just worried that after they repaint the doors and quarter panel that there will be a different gloss compared to the origional gloss/clear coat on the car. Do you know if the body shop can replicate the origional "wavy" gloss/clearcoat look before the repaint? if they can't then i will probably not repaint the side doors since the scratches are very minimal. I guess I'm just worried that the repainted reflection on the left side of my car will look different/off compared to the nonpainted areas. Any inputs would greatly be appreciated. thanks.

[corrupt23jj]

Dude, why don't you start your own thread in the appropriate forum and wait for a response instead of hijacking other people's threads all across the board.

Originally Posted by celticsfan

I'm getting my left quarter panel repaired next week. They said that the would have to pound out the dent, bondo it, and repaint it. I also have 2 very small scratches(5-6mm long)and it's into the paint (into metal) on both the left front and rear door as well. They said that they would have to take out the doors/windows and repaint both doors and apply a clear coat afterwards. I'm just worried that after they repaint the doors and quarter panel that there will be a different gloss compared to the origional gloss/clear coat on the car. Do you know if the body shop can replicate the origional "wavy" gloss/clearcoat look before the repaint? if they can't then i will probably not repaint the side doors since the scratches are very minimal. I guess I'm just worried that the repainted reflection on the left side of my car will look different/off compared to the nonpainted areas. Any inputs would greatly be appreciated. thanks.

[jblackwell]

Originally Posted by P2

I have to have my hood and trunk lid repaints, fender blended of course. Does anyone know:

1: What paint BMW uses. I went to a certified body shop and I think they said they use Standox but not sure. My local BMW referred me to a referral only place that only specializes in German cars and he say he uses (as well as BMW) something like Glasuidn. Anyone know. I just want it to look the same and be durable. This referral only place says he can replicate the orange peal look on our cars. Very clean booth and little if any wet sanding. The guy I usually use is really good but his work is glass smooth, not what's on the BMW so I'm looking elsewhere.

2: Does anyone think it matters if you repair a hood or replace it with a new BMW part as far as resale goes. The BMW cert place says I should keep the hood because it has the vin # on it. I say toss the bondo and give me a new BMW hood. Of course fixing the hood is more labor and about 60% more expensive.

3: How many coats of clear coat will it take to replicate the original finish? 2?

Thanks

1. I don't think Glasurit is the sole paint brand used on BMW any longer. BMW now has their own line of paint sold by BMW stores, manufactured by DuPont. Any collision center that carries a "Certified BMW Repair Center" must be spraying a Glasurit or DuPont/BMW paint. Spies Hecker was making the paint (owned and manufactured by DuPont as well) which is a solvent based paint. Now certified centers are moving to DuPont's water based paint which is what BMW sprays at the factory. (All shops in California will be here soon)

2. If it's going to show up on a Carfax, it only matters to the potential buyer of your car. If fixing the hood is time consuming and costly, you may realize a better end product with a replacement. Your call basically.

3. 2 - 3 coats minus wet sanding and polishing. 2mm thickness typically.

[john715z]

1. Most German Motor auto body uses standox. Standox is really nothing special just a label repackage from Dupont. Same as spies hecker.
2. new hood
3. usually if they are using a glamor clear coat it will take 2 coats to get about 2 1/2 mils. if using a inexpensive clear about 3 coats to do the job. you want at least 2 mils minimum for the gloss, protection and durability.

[Greg]

Actually you are close on your comments, Glaszurite is the paint it has the red mccaw bird on the can, Now these days everything is waterbase paint, and it is really good, I am having a rock chip fixed soon by my buddie that owns a high end body shop here in Bakersfield, the hood will be touched up then the whole thing will be cleared, not much color is used, the dupont clears and the PPG clears are just fine it will match perfectly, if it is a hood you can count on 500.00 for a fix, trunk will be about 350.00. Its worth it to fix it, you will not notice any diffrence at all if the quality of the body shop is good, it is all in the painter, he will make it or break it...