[herbz]

135i, least amount of options(no active steering, no nav, no seat warmers, etc.), 6MT
Black Sapphire/Black leather interior/OEM aluminum trim
19" BBS CH Gold finish street rims
17" SSR Competition with drag radials for the strip
Stoptech pads/rotors/Stainless steel lines
Bilstein shocks, springs
Lightweight hood/trunk/flywheel (save approx 50 lbs)
Short shifter
OEM aesthetic mods (lip spoiler, mtech front, rear, etc.)

ECU tune on 93 oct (readily available in MA )
full TBE (incl hi flow cats)
downpipe, uppipe
quaife LSD

$55k? With all those mods how fast of a quarter mile you think it could run?

[E36_325i]

I think this thread is bound to fail. As far as I'm concerned this car is just a fantasy and therefore one cannot make an accurate guess one what it's numbers would be.

[Ninjaneer]

It's got the turbos right? Add another $1300 for PROcede

In all honesty though, I can't fathom paying that much for a 1-series when it could put me in a loaded E90/E92, or basic 5-series, or save up for the M3 But that's just me.

[BMW F22]

^ seriously. $55k for a 1-series??? I'd rather buy a Cayman S or M3.

[herbz]

^ seriously. $55k for a 1-series??? I'd rather buy a Cayman S or M3.

hear me out here

lets say the 135i turns out to be ~$38k with bare options. should be about 3200lbs and run 0-60 and the quartermile faster than the 335i stock.

(335i stock #'s: 0-60: 4.8; 1/4 mile: 13.4 second)

throw in JUST the engine mods/limited slip/tires which are probably worth around $4k-$6k with installation, and you're looking at a 0-60 time of 4 seconds with a quarter mile of mid to low 12's.

FYI that is C6 Vette territory and so far you've only spent ~44-45k.

sorry to say but the new M3 won't be as fast as that in a straight line, it might have an amazing suspension for the turns but i'm highly concerned about the weight of the new M3. you add a V8 which makes more power but at the same time you're add 500 more pounds. which can compromise both handling and acceleration. the M3 CSL might be a different story but i'm not about to spend $60k+ for a 4,000 pound luxury car.

the other $10k could be used for things like aesthetics, brakes, and wheels, which are optional, but bigger brakes will certainly help with that much power.

my point is that a 135i could potentially be faster than an M3 for significantly less money (about $10,000-$15,000 less if you exclude aesthetic mods).

while i respect the M3 and how great of a car it is, the new ones are simply not the type of cars for me. i like smaller cars, and 3500lbs is the most i would ever want for a car. once you get above that it's not a true sports car IMO.

[Corey]

Unless you're set on voiding a new warranty I would just mod an older car and save a lot more money.

[2009BMW335]

by this philosophy i should buy a geo storm, stretch the fenders, throw in a 454 and supercharge it. it'd be faster than a lot of things but whats the point????????????????????????????????????????????? ??

[Corey]

Originally Posted by awesome

by this philosophy i should buy a geo storm, stretch the fenders, throw in a 454 and supercharge it. it'd be faster than a lot of things but whats the point????????????????????????????????????????????? ??

The point is he'd have the fast car he wants, but you took it waaay to the extreme. I think it'd just be more practical to start with something a little older (and a lot cheaper) since you'll be voiding the warranty either way. Pick up a really nice '98 325 for $10k and turbo that, get equal performance for a lot less money. Of course you're not going to get all the modern electronics and gadgets or feel that a new car would have, so if you think that's worth an extra 30 grand by all means get the 1 series.

It would be a lot cheaper to buy a more commonly modified chassis than try to fabricate parts for a Geo anyway.

And hey, I see he is in MA. I'll help him wrench on it.

[2009BMW335]

Originally Posted by Corey

The point is he'd have the fast car he wants, but you took it waaay to the extreme. I think it'd just be more practical to start with something a little older (and a lot cheaper) since you'll be voiding the warranty either way. Pick up a really nice '98 325 for $10k and turbo that, get equal performance for a lot less money. Of course you're not going to get all the modern electronics and gadgets or feel that a new car would have, so if you think that's worth an extra 30 grand by all means get the 1 series.

It would be a lot cheaper to buy a more commonly modified chassis than try to fabricate parts for a Geo anyway.

And hey, I see he is in MA. I'll help him wrench on it.

i used his "logic". buy something cheaper and make it faster than something more expensive...

[Driv3r]

wait, 38K for the 135 would be inpossible...The e90 335i with no options is LESS than that! i think its somewhere in the 37's...
My guess is that the 135i might come standard at around 33-34K..

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by BMWE90

^ seriously. $55k for a 1-series??? I'd rather buy a Cayman S or M3.

$55k would get you an M or the 3, but not an M3...

[Ryan@Motorwerks]

The new M3 is going to weigh ~3500lbs according to the recent car&driver article so don't jump to any conclusions until its actually out.

[herbz]

Originally Posted by 335e90

The new M3 is going to weigh ~3500lbs according to the recent car&driver article so don't jump to any conclusions until its actually out.

you're right. i'm just being paranoid. don't get me wrong, if the new M3 is as light as a 335i, then it truly has the potential to be an amazing car in every respect.

i know this is all speculation, but i've done the whole buy an old car and drive it to the death thing. my current car is an '86 325 with 320k miles. i'm still in college atm but am close to graduating, by the time i have an actual job and am able to save, the 135i will be a viable option for someone young like myself.

[2009BMW335]

well it looks like it's gonna be a pretty sweet car (135) regardless of whether or not you do all that stuff to it. sounds like a good option

[herbz]

Originally Posted by Corey

The point is he'd have the fast car he wants, but you took it waaay to the extreme. I think it'd just be more practical to start with something a little older (and a lot cheaper) since you'll be voiding the warranty either way. Pick up a really nice '98 325 for $10k and turbo that, get equal performance for a lot less money. Of course you're not going to get all the modern electronics and gadgets or feel that a new car would have, so if you think that's worth an extra 30 grand by all means get the 1 series.

It would be a lot cheaper to buy a more commonly modified chassis than try to fabricate parts for a Geo anyway.

And hey, I see he is in MA. I'll help him wrench on it.

hell yeah man. i plan on doing alot of the shit myself. of course this is all in probably 4-5 years time but if you're still around by then i would be glad to take you in for the ride

[herbz]

Originally Posted by awesome

by this philosophy i should buy a geo storm, stretch the fenders, throw in a 454 and supercharge it. it'd be faster than a lot of things but whats the point????????????????????????????????????????????? ??

my point is that i want a small, LIGHT BMW that is extremely fast, in a hatchback body (i've always thought hatchbacks were sexy)

plus a 135i would be a sleeper. and the 135i is no geo storm my friend! it's not like i'm ripping out the engine and putting in a new one! all i'm doing is a few simple exhaust and ECU mods, limited slip, and you can have something that's insanely fast...

i mean... your $50k 335i is faster than a $70k RS4... what's not to like about that?

[herbz]

Originally Posted by Driv3r

wait, 38K for the 135 would be inpossible...The e90 335i with no options is LESS than that! i think its somewhere in the 37's...
My guess is that the 135i might come standard at around 33-34K..

that's a good guess my friend.... a bit optimistic but i would be a very happy man if that turned out to be true.

[BMW F22]

I wasnt talking about speed alone. It's just that $55k on a 1-series is just unimaginable to me. It's like spending $40k on a camry when you get a Lexus for that much.

Originally Posted by herbz

hear me out here

lets say the 135i turns out to be ~$38k with bare options. should be about 3200lbs and run 0-60 and the quartermile faster than the 335i stock.

(335i stock #'s: 0-60: 4.8; 1/4 mile: 13.4 second)

throw in JUST the engine mods/limited slip/tires which are probably worth around $4k-$6k with installation, and you're looking at a 0-60 time of 4 seconds with a quarter mile of mid to low 12's.

FYI that is C6 Vette territory and so far you've only spent ~44-45k.

sorry to say but the new M3 won't be as fast as that in a straight line, it might have an amazing suspension for the turns but i'm highly concerned about the weight of the new M3. you add a V8 which makes more power but at the same time you're add 500 more pounds. which can compromise both handling and acceleration. the M3 CSL might be a different story but i'm not about to spend $60k+ for a 4,000 pound luxury car.

the other $10k could be used for things like aesthetics, brakes, and wheels, which are optional, but bigger brakes will certainly help with that much power.

my point is that a 135i could potentially be faster than an M3 for significantly less money (about $10,000-$15,000 less if you exclude aesthetic mods).

while i respect the M3 and how great of a car it is, the new ones are simply not the type of cars for me. i like smaller cars, and 3500lbs is the most i would ever want for a car. once you get above that it's not a true sports car IMO.

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by dr325i

$55k would get you an M or the 3, but not an M3...

E46 M3??

Even with the new M3, which is estimated to start around $55-56k, should be affordable with the $55k since the OP didnt say that $55k was the out the door price.

[herbz]

Originally Posted by BMWE90

I wasnt talking about speed alone. It's just that $55k on a 1-series is just unimaginable to me. It's like spending $40k on a camry when you get a Lexus for that much.

you're probably right.... but look at some of the 335i modders out here. i'm sure some of them have already spent $60,000 on their 3 series'. why did they do that if they could just save a little more and have an M5? probably because a $55k 335i with a simple tune can run with an M5, and the 335i owners spent $40k less.

but you're saying if you have a car you really loved you wouldn't spend an extra 10-15k on it? regardless of what the badge says, that type of performance and luxury in a sleek coupe is a pretty nice value for $55k (at most.)

to each their own :rocks:

[BMW F22]

Okay I just realized that you ARE the OP :bonk

Well the thing with me is that I like all bimmers. So in that sense if I were to spend $55k on a BMW, it's definitely not gonna be a 1-series. Im sure many people would agree with me on this. Then again, to each his own. ^_^

For the mod thing- it's just weird because people dont usually add up the money they've spent on mods. I dont know how to explain it but the mod state of mind is different.