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      02-03-2011, 12:25 PM   #1
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what's the yellow flashing light indicating

Had a bit of fun yesterday givin it some beans & there is a yellow light that flashes on & off. Talkin about full throttle @3 figure speeds here on my private runway)

I'm sure it's to do with traction control but surely not @ a ton. Snow & ice yes but not on a perfect road surface with the sun out & 9C.

What's actually happening ?? has it applied the brakes, cut the power as I can't tell.

Never turned the Traction control off but if it was off would the car have lost control ??

Not a problem for me leaving it on as I just want to know what's going on in the background.
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      02-03-2011, 12:31 PM   #2
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Must be DSC intervention, not traction control. The car doesn't have enough power for traction control to intervene at those speeds.

Were you going around a curve? Onto a taxiway perhaps?
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perfectly flat & straight real good piece of tarmac
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What size wheels? Standard or M-sport suspension?

I'm thinking slight undulations on your runway, (where a heavy jet has touched down perhaps ; ) may have caused some bounce which lifted the driving wheels enough for them to spin. Stiff suspension and low profile tyres would tend to accentuate this.
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      02-03-2011, 03:57 PM   #5
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e92 so m suspension i guess.

17" wheels on winter tyres ( 149mph rated) car was & felt "planted"
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When I have had it de-activated completely I've spun the rears at over 115mph so it's entirely possible with it activated to cut in if the wheels were trying to break traction for whatever reason!
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DSC.

A 335d at full chat on winters could no doubt trigger it it just due to road surface change etc

IMHO Winters aren't meant to be doing 100+ really... Whatever they are rated to. The tread pattern doesn't suit performance driving.
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It's very unlikely that if you did turn the traction control off that the car would lose control...

Control is something the driver is meant to be in charge of....
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the tyres are rated @149 so 11* is nothing to them

the "take off" was over & done with in at least 15 seconds so there was no sustained high speeds & like most people on here I pick my moments. 6 seconds of full acceleration from 50/60 is all we are really talking about so I'm in as much control as anyone could be.

In this case the road was wide, empty, no turnings perfect surface & 9 degrees C.

Still no clearer as to why the light would flash on & off.
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It flashes when its operating - so not on when its on and off when its off.

Causes? Water, oil, change in surface, bump or ripple in tarmac, manhole cover, white line/painted surface, animal remains? All could trigger the DSC or even traction control to kick in esp if only 1 wheel comes in to contact with whatever it was.

Get a quaife diff and the light will bother you a lot less...

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It flashes when its operating - so not on when its on and off when its off.

Causes? Water, oil, change in surface, bump or ripple in tarmac, manhole cover, white line/painted surface, animal remains? All could trigger the DSC or even traction control to kick in esp if only 1 wheel comes in to contact with whatever it was.

Get a quaife diff and the light will bother you a lot less...
Actually people, it flashes AFTER its operated.
Do some tests - a wet motorway bridge expansion joint and a heavy right foot is an easy one to measure.

The light will flicker after the event, by a second or so.

The Quaife indeed does makes a huge difference, but you just drive harder.
I had the DTC switched on and still got it lighting up and drifting off line at 70+ easily.

One wheel losing grip on an open diff is catastrophic, all power goes right to the spinning wheel and so a very early DSC intervention.
That also closes the throttle plate slightly on the petrol - feels like hitting the rev limiter...



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When I have had it de-activated completely I've spun the rears at over 115mph
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1 quick press of the dtc button should make it more fun....be careful tho...
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I too had a giggle to myself after it happened!!!
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Had a bit of fun yesterday givin it some beans & there is a yellow light that flashes on & off. Talkin about full throttle @3 figure speeds here on my private runway)

I'm sure it's to do with traction control but surely not @ a ton. Snow & ice yes but not on a perfect road surface with the sun out & 9C.

What's actually happening ?? has it applied the brakes, cut the power as I can't tell.

Never turned the Traction control off but if it was off would the car have lost control ??

Not a problem for me leaving it on as I just want to know what's going on in the background.
Aye, I get this on the Clio at well over the NSL.

Its just a bitch so we all have to learn to modulate the power


















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