Turner Motorsport Software Almost Ready

radgator1 · 02-23-2007, 01:25 PM

See this thread.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=694524

They are dyno testing the final version this AM. Looks like just in the last week TMS, Eurobahn and Active Aurtowerks all announced they are almost ready to come to the 335i ECU upgrade market. In a couple of months there will probably be 10 or more options. This is going to get really interesting and all these options are going to be great for everyone.

NaViT · 02-23-2007, 01:27 PM

not bad.. it shows a little less power than the Procede i think... but um any idea on the pricing?

AHY · 02-23-2007, 01:30 PM

they put down 314whp + 316.9wtq

radgator1 · 02-23-2007, 01:32 PM

I just asked over on the other thread. See what they say. TMS usually has high reliability so I am guessing the slightly lower numbers are because they are staying well within the safety margin.

e36jakeo · 02-23-2007, 08:48 PM

There is a big difference between how the turner reflash is making power and the Procede. The turner car has an increase of 36 lb/ft of torque and 34 HP while the PROcede while the PROcede car has gains of 80-90 lb/ft of torque and 40-50 HP http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47377

I assume the Turner car is on 93 octane (in CT) vs. the 91 octane crap in CA. So figure another 10-15 HP and lb/ft torque with the same gas.

Based upon the power curves the Turner car will "feel" about like stock, building power and requiring more revs to get the extra power, quite the PROcede car will rocket ahead at any RPM with the extra 50-60 lb/ft of torque.

Factor in complete transparency of PROcede with ability to instantly switch back to stock map and you get PROcede > Turner . . . for now.

ac2 · 02-28-2007, 02:52 PM

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...CT_ID=TN54-ST1

Price: $2,499.00 ................

RiXst3r · 02-28-2007, 02:59 PM

you would have to be nuts to pay that much for a flash

bmwzimmer · 02-28-2007, 03:17 PM

WOW, So you have to fork over all that cash, remove and ship them your ECU to get flashed, Get it back and loose your warranty INSTANTLY since it will be transparent to anyone checking that your ECU has been flashed. Sounds like a deal. Where do I sign up?

teknochild · 02-28-2007, 03:21 PM

looks like they did pretty shitty market research

aris214 · 02-28-2007, 03:39 PM

I bet even AA will have a lower price point than that

bmwzimmer · 02-28-2007, 03:49 PM

It it comes with a VOIDED warranty, it better be cheap.

RiXst3r · 02-28-2007, 04:07 PM

Will the car still drive without its ECU? or would we have downtime while the ECU is in the mail...

Jason · 02-28-2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Will the car still drive without its ECU? or would we have downtime while the ECU is in the mail...

Can't drive without ECU.

lkevinl · 02-28-2007, 04:15 PM

Is it $2500 for a completely new replacement ECU?? That would at least make more sense!

teknochild · 02-28-2007, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason

Can't drive without ECU.

you could, your car would just be limited to one hP (human power)

get pushin

RiXst3r · 02-28-2007, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason

Can't drive without ECU.

Thanks for clearing that up...

Terry335 · 02-28-2007, 05:08 PM

lol what a joke.

Zoeb@WheelDude.com · 02-28-2007, 05:12 PM

lol, more expensive than a procede and less power

ntia

procede FTW.

OpenFlash · 02-28-2007, 05:49 PM

That is because the flash comes from Germany. TMS is simply reselling it.

-shiv

BayerischeMW · 02-28-2007, 06:13 PM

what company is behind it?

BzzzBom · 02-28-2007, 06:49 PM

The MTH german reflash for my MINI was $150.00

roller84 · 02-28-2007, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

That is because the flash comes from Germany. TMS is simply reselling it.

-shiv

Shouldn't you be testing the harnesses and prepping the first procede orders to be shipped?

Just kidding....actually I'm serious.....no I'm just kidding......wait......

02-23-2007, 01:25 PM	#1
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NaViT Banned 71 Rep 3,404 Posts Drives: 04 M3/E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: N.Florida iTrader: (11)	not bad.. it shows a little less power than the Procede i think... but um any idea on the pricing?
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radgator1 Lieutenant Colonel 53 Rep 1,600 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SoCal iTrader: (4) Garage List 2007 e90 335i [0.00] 2007 e90 335i [0.00]	I just asked over on the other thread. See what they say. TMS usually has high reliability so I am guessing the slightly lower numbers are because they are staying well within the safety margin.
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e36jakeo Captain 36 Rep 625 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 6 Speed MT! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern CA iTrader: (0)	There is a big difference between how the turner reflash is making power and the Procede. The turner car has an increase of 36 lb/ft of torque and 34 HP while the PROcede while the PROcede car has gains of 80-90 lb/ft of torque and 40-50 HP http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47377 I assume the Turner car is on 93 octane (in CT) vs. the 91 octane crap in CA. So figure another 10-15 HP and lb/ft torque with the same gas. Based upon the power curves the Turner car will "feel" about like stock, building power and requiring more revs to get the extra power, quite the PROcede car will rocket ahead at any RPM with the extra 50-60 lb/ft of torque. Factor in complete transparency of PROcede with ability to instantly switch back to stock map and you get PROcede > Turner . . . for now. __________________ Driving sideways: It's not faster, but damn it's more fun!
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02-28-2007, 03:17 PM	#8
bmwzimmer Major 41 Rep 1,084 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 91 octane states iTrader: (0)	WOW, So you have to fork over all that cash, remove and ship them your ECU to get flashed, Get it back and loose your warranty INSTANTLY since it will be transparent to anyone checking that your ECU has been flashed. Sounds like a deal. Where do I sign up?
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teknochild Your resident 4um troll 141 Rep 2,020 Posts Drives: 335 coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: fl iTrader: (0)	looks like they did pretty shitty market research __________________ RAWRrrrr
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bmwzimmer Major 41 Rep 1,084 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 91 octane states iTrader: (0)	It it comes with a VOIDED warranty, it better be cheap.
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RiXst3r 288 Rep 6,510 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ohio iTrader: (14)	Will the car still drive without its ECU? or would we have downtime while the ECU is in the mail...
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lkevinl Lieutenant 38 Rep 521 Posts Drives: '07 335i 4dr Sport+Premium+Nav Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: So. Cal. iTrader: (0)	Is it $2500 for a completely new replacement ECU?? That would at least make more sense!
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BzzzBom Major 97 Rep 1,216 Posts Drives: 05 R53 MINI / 09 335i Coupe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	The MTH german reflash for my MINI was $150.00
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