Xede questions

ganeil · 03-02-2007, 11:28 PM

I know I am going to get flamed for this and since I have a 328 it is not a decision I will have to make, but here goes.

I see many of the 335i owners here have or are planning to install the Xede. I assume that the installation of this system would void the warranty coverage of, at least, the engine and possibly other components.

My question then is, if you install Xede are you planning on forfeiting your warranty or deceiving (and consequentially defrauding) BMW by removing it prior to service?

Jaws · 03-02-2007, 11:31 PM

Put your flame suit on. It's called "PROcede" now BTW

canucklion · 03-02-2007, 11:32 PM

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty

Chesmu · 03-02-2007, 11:35 PM

careful boys.... i smell a spy.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty

the second link is what you're after.

edit: canuck beat me by two minutes...damn!

teknochild · 03-02-2007, 11:35 PM

manual > auto

Chesmu · 03-02-2007, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teknochild

manual > auto

?
wrong thread tekno....

ganeil · 03-02-2007, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canucklion

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty

Thanks for the links. I saw those but I am more interested in the moral angle than the technical.

Walked U · 03-03-2007, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chesmu

?
wrong thread tekno....

he talking about the power gains

teknochild · 03-03-2007, 12:04 AM

naw i was just trolling in a repost, want to measure the critical mass of the flame war

you have to admit it would be pretty funny if this thread instantly turned into more manual vs auto debate

Chesmu · 03-03-2007, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganeil

Thanks for the links. I saw those but I am more interested in the moral angle than the technical.

like I said...look at the link before you dismiss it...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty

Brunotheboxer · 03-03-2007, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganeil

Thanks for the links. I saw those but I am more interested in the moral angle than the technical.

what are morals?

ADHD · 03-03-2007, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganeil

Thanks for the links. I saw those but I am more interested in the moral angle than the technical.

HA u got morals!!

dude let me guess u waited till u were married to have sex

edgarj · 03-03-2007, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganeil

Thanks for the links. I saw those but I am more interested in the moral angle than the technical.

This forum is a really bad place to hang out if you're having a moral conundrum about Procede, and the 335i is a poor moralmobile in the US, as the speed limit often arrives before you glance down at the cluster.... I'm definately going to hell if Procede is on the checklist.

ganeil · 03-03-2007, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgarj

This forum is a really bad place to hang out if you're having a moral conundrum about Procede, and the 335i is a poor moralmobile in the US, as the speed limit often arrives before you glance down at the cluster.... I'm definately going to hell if Procede is on the checklist.

I have no conundrum since I do not own a 335i. I also do not believe installing ProCDEDE is immoral, or exceeding the speed limit necessarily is. I do question the ethics of knowingly installing something that voids your warranty and then deceiving the other party to the contract so they continue to abide by their obligations when you clearly did not.

s4iscool · 03-03-2007, 10:22 AM

ive always been in the "you gota pay to play" camp when modding cars. If you chip a turbo car, then proceed to blow the engine, a turbo, fry a clutch, etc...then you better not be putting the stock chip back in and acting like you did nothing wrong. IF the manufacture doesnt find a mod as the culprit, they will most likely fix it under warranty...in thats case I have a problem in that other future owners with similar problems are going to to be interrogated before the warrranty will pick up similar repairs. This cycle happens with nearly all late model turbo cars with huge chip tuner support.

canucklion · 03-03-2007, 10:23 AM

bro, we should have a

contest

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chesmu

careful boys.... i smell a spy.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty

the second link is what you're after.

edit: canuck beat me by two minutes...damn!

canucklion · 03-03-2007, 10:24 AM

what are you talking about?

E92 >>>> E90

Quote:

Originally Posted by teknochild

naw i was just trolling in a repost, want to measure the critical mass of the flame war

you have to admit it would be pretty funny if this thread instantly turned into more manual vs auto debate

CoralRedPlz · 03-03-2007, 10:52 AM

can somone just link the OP to that super annoying moral debate thread about the Xede from a couple months ago?

BoostedBMW · 03-03-2007, 11:08 AM

What does this matter if you don't even have a 335 to begin with? If you don't want to void your warranty then don't install a piggyback on your car. What other people do shouldn't be a concern to you. If you don't like "deceiving" the dealership then don't do it. I have never seen a dealership let their morals help me out whenever I went in for service, instead they try to deny things under warranty so they can make more $$/hour with a higher labor rate.

canucklion · 03-03-2007, 11:33 AM

we did
but he wants to stir the hornets' nest a bit more, I guess he likes to watch people bicker about it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoralRedPlz

can somone just link the OP to that super annoying moral debate thread about the Xede from a couple months ago?

s4iscool · 03-03-2007, 11:36 AM

i actually found some dealers approve repairs/replacements that did not need fixing, just so they could write up a higher ticket and get paid by bmw...

Ninjaneer · 03-03-2007, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoralRedPlz

can somone just link the OP to that super annoying moral debate thread about the Xede from a couple months ago?

Here you go: Modding-->Warranty-->Dishonesty

The guy with 2 posts?

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Chesmu Brigadier General 96 Rep 3,011 Posts Drives: 2013 X6 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix,AZ iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00] 2006 330i [0.00]	careful boys.... i smell a spy. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=warranty the second link is what you're after. edit: canuck beat me by two minutes...damn! __________________ "Teach the ignorant. Ignore the stupid."
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teknochild Your resident 4um troll 141 Rep 2,020 Posts Drives: 335 coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: fl iTrader: (0)	manual > auto __________________ RAWRrrrr
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teknochild Your resident 4um troll 141 Rep 2,020 Posts Drives: 335 coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: fl iTrader: (0)	naw i was just trolling in a repost, want to measure the critical mass of the flame war you have to admit it would be pretty funny if this thread instantly turned into more manual vs auto debate __________________ RAWRrrrr
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s4iscool Major 26 Rep 1,138 Posts Drives: 06 330i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Neccos iTrader: (2)	ive always been in the "you gota pay to play" camp when modding cars. If you chip a turbo car, then proceed to blow the engine, a turbo, fry a clutch, etc...then you better not be putting the stock chip back in and acting like you did nothing wrong. IF the manufacture doesnt find a mod as the culprit, they will most likely fix it under warranty...in thats case I have a problem in that other future owners with similar problems are going to to be interrogated before the warrranty will pick up similar repairs. This cycle happens with nearly all late model turbo cars with huge chip tuner support.
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CoralRedPlz restless 7 Rep 484 Posts Drives: Space Grey, Coral Red 335i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: around town iTrader: (0)	can somone just link the OP to that super annoying moral debate thread about the Xede from a couple months ago? __________________ 335i space, coral/gray poplar, step, loaded, but with no AS, AC or rear shade. Front lip painted and installed and springs going on this week. pics coming soon.
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s4iscool Major 26 Rep 1,138 Posts Drives: 06 330i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Neccos iTrader: (2)	i actually found some dealers approve repairs/replacements that did not need fixing, just so they could write up a higher ticket and get paid by bmw...
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