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      03-01-2011, 06:43 AM   #1
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Should i get intercooler or DP next?

Hey guy what up?? Should I get intercooler next or DP? Eventually will have both prob by summer. Thanks. If so what brand? Also I have rwd.
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      03-01-2011, 06:49 AM   #2
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Hey guy what up?? Should I get intercooler next or DP? Eventually will have both prob by summer. Thanks. If so what brand? Also I have rwd.
Depends. I'd say DP's if you DONT beat on your car often. Also if you have an oil cooler.

But if you beat on your car I'd say FMIC...

I'm getting DP's hopefully by either the end of this week or next week. Depending on how busy matt is
And I don't have a FMIC or an oil cooler. But I was told I should be ok as long as I watch my oil temps and not beat the shit outta the car.

You have JB4 too right? JB4 has a built in oil protection that lowers your boost automatically if your starting to run too hot. So I'd say it's safe to go with the DP's first. Especially since you'll get the FMIC soon after.
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DP's........... we spoke about this already Sheldon!!!

If you are gonna track your car then get the FMIC
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if your going to get both by the summer then go with DP and get the FMIC when it gets hot .
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Depends. I'd say DP's if you DONT beat on your car often. Also if you have an oil cooler.

But if you beat on your car I'd say FMIC...

I'm getting DP's hopefully by either the end of this week or next week. Depending on how busy matt is
And I don't have a FMIC or an oil cooler. But I was told I should be ok as long as I watch my oil temps and not beat the shit outta the car.

You have JB4 too right? JB4 has a built in oil protection that lowers your boost automatically if your starting to run too hot. So I'd say it's safe to go with the DP's first. Especially since you'll get the FMIC soon after.
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FMIC then DPs

keep the car cool before running it harder bro
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      03-01-2011, 08:41 AM   #8
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FMIC then DPs

keep the car cool before running it harder bro
If that's the case, he would first buy an oil cooler not a fmic. An ic doesn't "keep the car cool"
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If that's the case, he would first buy an oil cooler not a fmic. An ic doesn't "keep the car cool"

Im aware it doesnt keep the "car cool"

sorry i should of put the literal definition my apologies

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An intercooler (original UK term, sometimes aftercooler in US practice), or charge air cooler, is an air-to-air or air-to-liquid heat exchange device used on turbocharged and supercharged (forced induction) internal combustion engines to improve their volumetric efficiency by increasing intake air charge density through nearly isobaric (constant pressure) cooling, which removes the heat of compression (i.e., the temperature rise) that occurs in any gas when its pressure is raised or its unit mass per unit volume (density) is increased. A decrease in intake air charge temperature sustains use of a more dense intake charge into the engine, as a result of supercharging. The lowering of the intake charge air temperature also eliminates the danger of pre-detonation (knock) of the fuel air charge prior to timed spark ignition. Thus preserving the benefits of more fuel/air burn per engine cycle, increasing the output of the engine. Intercoolers increase the efficiency of the induction system by reducing induction air heat created by the turbocharger and promoting more thorough combustion. They also eliminate the need for using the wasteful method of lowering intake charge temperature by the injection of excess fuel into the cylinders' air induction chambers, to cool the intake air charge, prior to its flowing into the cylinders. This wasteful practice (when intercoolers are not used) nearly eliminated the gain in engine efficiency from supercharging, but was necessitated by the greater need to prevent at all costs the engine damage that pre-detonation engine knocking causes.[1]
The inter prefix in the device name originates from historic compressor designs. In the past, aircraft engines were built with charge air coolers that were installed between multiple stages of supercharging,[citation needed] thus the designation of inter. Modern automobile designs are technically designated aftercoolers because of their placement at the end of supercharging chain. This term is now considered archaic in modern automobile terminology since most forced induction vehicles have single-stage superchargers or turbochargers although "aftercooler" is still in common use in the piston engined aircraft industry. In a vehicle fitted with two-stage turbocharging, it is possible to have both an intercooler (between the two turbocharger units) and an aftercooler (between the second-stage turbo and the engine). The JCB Dieselmax land speed record-holding car is an example of such a system. In general, an intercooler or aftercooler is said to be a charge air cooler.
Intercoolers can vary dramatically in size, shape and design, depending on the performance and space requirements of the entire supercharger system. Common spatial designs are front mounted intercoolers (FMIC), top mounted intercoolers (TMIC) and hybrid mount intercoolers (HMIC). Each type can be cooled with an air-to-air system, air-to-liquid system, or a combination of both.
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If that's the case, he would first buy an oil cooler not a fmic. An ic doesn't "keep the car cool"
+1

Thats if he doesn't have an oil cooler.
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Im aware it doesnt keep the "car cool"

sorry i should of put the literal definition my apologies

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An intercooler (original UK term, sometimes aftercooler in US practice), or charge air cooler, is an air-to-air or air-to-liquid heat exchange device used on turbocharged and supercharged (forced induction) internal combustion engines to improve their volumetric efficiency by increasing intake air charge density through nearly isobaric (constant pressure) cooling, which removes the heat of compression (i.e., the temperature rise) that occurs in any gas when its pressure is raised or its unit mass per unit volume (density) is increased. A decrease in intake air charge temperature sustains use of a more dense intake charge into the engine, as a result of supercharging. The lowering of the intake charge air temperature also eliminates the danger of pre-detonation (knock) of the fuel air charge prior to timed spark ignition. Thus preserving the benefits of more fuel/air burn per engine cycle, increasing the output of the engine. Intercoolers increase the efficiency of the induction system by reducing induction air heat created by the turbocharger and promoting more thorough combustion. They also eliminate the need for using the wasteful method of lowering intake charge temperature by the injection of excess fuel into the cylinders' air induction chambers, to cool the intake air charge, prior to its flowing into the cylinders. This wasteful practice (when intercoolers are not used) nearly eliminated the gain in engine efficiency from supercharging, but was necessitated by the greater need to prevent at all costs the engine damage that pre-detonation engine knocking causes.[1]
The inter prefix in the device name originates from historic compressor designs. In the past, aircraft engines were built with charge air coolers that were installed between multiple stages of supercharging,[citation needed] thus the designation of inter. Modern automobile designs are technically designated aftercoolers because of their placement at the end of supercharging chain. This term is now considered archaic in modern automobile terminology since most forced induction vehicles have single-stage superchargers or turbochargers although "aftercooler" is still in common use in the piston engined aircraft industry. In a vehicle fitted with two-stage turbocharging, it is possible to have both an intercooler (between the two turbocharger units) and an aftercooler (between the second-stage turbo and the engine). The JCB Dieselmax land speed record-holding car is an example of such a system. In general, an intercooler or aftercooler is said to be a charge air cooler.
Intercoolers can vary dramatically in size, shape and design, depending on the performance and space requirements of the entire supercharger system. Common spatial designs are front mounted intercoolers (FMIC), top mounted intercoolers (TMIC) and hybrid mount intercoolers (HMIC). Each type can be cooled with an air-to-air system, air-to-liquid system, or a combination of both.
Cool story bro, tells us more!
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Lol guys relax man WTF. What Musclez is simply trying to say is that it would be in ANYBODY'S best interest to make the car MORE RELIABLE before u start slapping a bunch of power mods on. And he's right. not everybody agrees, OR does this, but it's the SMARTER thing to do.
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Lol guys relax man WTF. What Musclez is simply trying to say is that it would be in ANYBODY'S best interest to make the car MORE RELIABLE before u start slapping a bunch of power mods on. And he's right. not everybody agrees, OR does this, but it's the SMARTER thing to do.
wtf are you saying, thats why we said oil cooler, you newb.
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WTF are YOU saying?? Did OP mention Oil cooler or FMIC?

NoOb..


And an interCOOLER does help cool the engine NOOBZ...
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Cool story bro, tells us more!
Dude relax im only busting balls jeeze u guys on here r too serious shesh !


and its keeping the air going into the turbos cooler therefore running more efficient shesh !

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Lol guys relax man WTF. What Musclez is simply trying to say is that it would be in ANYBODY'S best interest to make the car MORE RELIABLE before u start slapping a bunch of power mods on. And he's right. not everybody agrees, OR does this, but it's the SMARTER thing to do.
thanks alpine
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I can get you either, I also have an ETS setup here at the shop for a good price
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Only performance mod I need now is an oil cooler -_- shits gonna cost me 2gs T_T
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depending on your equipment package if you have the sport you will have a bigger oil cooler
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^^^^all these new comers take everything to the heart
Oh and btw op, go with the dps first since it's still cool out, once it gets
Warmer get the fmic,
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Dude relax im only busting balls jeeze u guys on here r too serious shesh !
I am relaxed how bout if you relax BRO!
Sorry just had roid rage
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WTF are YOU saying?? Did OP mention Oil cooler or FMIC?

NoOb..


And an interCOOLER does help cool the engine NOOBZ...

suck me noob
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