[Evo8MRto335I]

I did a search but did not find much but I already anticipated it. I was wondering if there is any BMW 335i owner running methanol/alcohol/water kit on their car.

I have been running methanol/alcohol on my turbo cars for a while and I experienced huge benefits on my cars(being able to run a few more psi of boost, trap a few extra mph, drop a few tenth of a sec and last but not least significantly increase my tq).

The BMW is a great example to put a good methanol kit into use. I was wondering is Vishnu has any intentions on start tuning with methanol on the 335i.

I fully dismantled my modded Evo8 but I kept the methanol progressive kit to use it sometime in the near future on my upcoming 335I.

In the worst case I will still install it on my car with a very small nozzle but if anyone has any inputs please share.

Thanks!

Carlos

[Evo8MRto335I]

Shiv, any word on that? Have you guys tried already?

Carlos

[CASHBY]

I personaly never did run this on any of my cars. There were some people with big turbo A4's that were running this mod. It is a great mod and they were making an extra 20whp at least, but some people were having some issues and actually blowing their motors.

For those who dont know what this mod is.
In gasoline engines, as with any intercooler, Boost Coolers suppress detonation so more power-producing boost and timing can be utilized. Water, with its high latent heat of vaporization, cools the intake charge and combustion. Methanol cools the charge and combustion, but also acts like an extremely high-octane fuel (some researchers claim as high as 120 octane), and adds more oxygen to combustion. They're designed for use in gasoline (8-30 psig boost) supercharged/turbocharged vehicles.

My guess is no one with a 335 has tried this because they havnt got to crazy with the boost, timing, etc settings as of yet.... it might work out when shiv gets time to make a race gas file for our cars.

[HyperM3]

Lot of tuners/racers use Toluene.

[OpenFlash]

We have no plans to run E85 on the BMW just yet. Maybe eventually but for now, there are so many other things to do !
Shiv

[jjlawyer]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We have no plans to run E85 on the BMW just yet. Maybe eventually but for now, there are so many other things to do !
Shiv

E85 is the term for motor fuel blends of 85 percent ethanol and just 15 percent gasoline. Methanol is methyl alcohol also known as wood alcohol or wood spirits with chemical formula CH3OH.

A meth kit uses a reservoir filled with a meth and water mixture and injects it, only under boost condition, into the charge air to cool it and to raise the octane rating. Nothing to do with E85.

[OpenFlash]

Oops.. i totally misread his original post. Yes, meth injection and e85 are two different things. Both of which we have done/still do on Evos. And nope, we have no intention of doing either with the 335i at this time

Cheers,
shiv

[Terry335]

How much boost can the stock 335i turbos make before the intake temp goes off the scale?

[CASHBY]

my guess is not much...right now at 10-11psi with the stage 2 procede (tune and exhaust) i think that might be maxing it out.

boost is fine...more timing would always be nice and race gas or water meth injection will allow to run more timing and make more ponies!

[BoostedBMW]

Slightly off topic, but you could always use an n2o or co2 charge to spray the intercooler and squeeze out a little more power. I know its not meth injection, but it wouldn't require a new tune either and its pretty easy to install/uninstall. Just throwing an idea out there.

[Terry335]

True, more timing would be nice. How much is the PROcede actually pulling out?

[CASHBY]

Originally Posted by BoostedBMW

Slightly off topic, but you could always use an n2o or co2 charge to spray the intercooler and squeeze out a little more power. I know its not meth injection, but it wouldn't require a new tune either and its pretty easy to install/uninstall. Just throwing an idea out there.

This is also a good method...anything to get cooler air intake temps will help with power.

[max boost]

I AM AN ALKYHOLIC!

look below.....look at the IAT......see them go up? no cause the alky
0 yo 150 run and IAT STAYED LEVEL!





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[Evo8MRto335I]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Oops.. i totally misread his original post. Yes, meth injection and e85 are two different things. Both of which we have done/still do on Evos. And nope, we have no intention of doing either with the 335i at this time

Cheers,
shiv

Shiv,

I am astonished to hear that. Why wouldn't you want to incorporate alcohol/methanol on the BMW if you know very well it work very well on the Evos and WRXs.

I would appreciate if you could elaborate more on that.

Thanks!

Carlos

[Evo8MRto335I]

Originally Posted by max boost

I AM AN ALKYHOLIC!

look below.....look at the IAT......see them go up? no cause the alky
0 yo 150 run and IAT STAYED LEVEL!





[IMG][/IMG]

What system are you running?

Carlos

[Jay@ATP]

Originally Posted by Evo8MRto335I

I did a search but did not find much but I already anticipated it. I was wondering if there is any BMW 335i owner running methanol/alcohol/water kit on their car.

I have been running methanol/alcohol on my turbo cars for a while and I experienced huge benefits on my cars(being able to run a few more psi of boost, trap a few extra mph, drop a few tenth of a sec and last but not least significantly increase my tq).

The BMW is a great example to put a good methanol kit into use. I was wondering is Vishnu has any intentions on start tuning with methanol on the 335i.

I fully dismantled my modded Evo8 but I kept the methanol progressive kit to use it sometime in the near future on my upcoming 335I.

In the worst case I will still install it on my car with a very small nozzle but if anyone has any inputs please share.

Thanks!

Carlos

What up carlos. Nice new name..kinda like from WRXtoEVo on EVOm.

This is Evo_Kid. So your liking the 335i? have you driven one?? I have already test driven one and its great. THE S2K is leaving soon to make way for a 07/08 335i sedan.

[topher04r1]

Originally Posted by BoostedBMW

Slightly off topic, but you could always use an n2o or co2 charge to spray the intercooler and squeeze out a little more power. I know its not meth injection, but it wouldn't require a new tune either and its pretty easy to install/uninstall. Just throwing an idea out there.

GREAT idea ..... n20 and C02 would both be effective at cooling your intake temps ..... i would venture to say though that co2 would probably be cheaper in the long run though ..... i'll give it a shot when / if my car ever gets off the dock in Germany ....

And here is an idea if you really want to get adventurous ......... try researching propane injection .......if i remember correctly propane is actually 110 octane and would also cool your intake charge much like water injection..... Food for thought.....

---topher

[jam0321]

Spearco makes a universal kit in which I will be looking to install in the coming months.
I used it on my Turbo tC and was able to push an additional 25whp with the Water/Meth Inj. The key is in the tuning.
Intercooler sprayers are not a bad choice but don't get anywhere near the temp drops as the Inj kits will get.
Some tuners go as far as to just using Injection without an intercooler in some apps where an intercooler cannot fit.

[bnj]

I don't see why 335 should get any extra weight by any type of reservoirs. They need to be filled, which is pain for an average Bmw driver. Moreover, the bottleneck is elsewhere namely in turbos. You get hundreds of hp more by concentrating on the flow and the efficiency.

[BoostedBMW]

^ If filling a reservoir or bottle is a pain for the average BMW guy, then imagine what doing a turbo upgrade (or modifying the current ones if that is a possibility at this point) would be for them.

[bnj]

An average Bmw drivers turbo mod goes like this: Here are the keys, I'll be back next week from my business trip. Can you pick me up from the airport? Can't wait to drive my 600 hp beast.

[BoostedBMW]

Originally Posted by bnj

An average Bmw drivers turbo mod goes like this: Here are the keys, I'll be back next week from my business trip. Can you pick me up from the airport? Can't wait to drive my 600 hp beast.

Oh really? I guess i'm not the average then, but from what I read on here with everyone worried about a BOV or drop in air filter voiding their warranty, I don't think that avg BMW drivers are dropping off their car anywhere but the dealership.