[bmviz]

From TMS web site - http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...CT_ID=TN52-ST1


Part #: TN52-ST1
Applications: 2005 - 2006 325i, 525i, Z4 2.5 (E90, E91, E60, Z4)
It's here ! Turn your E90 325i into a 330i (or 525i to 530i, Z4 2.5 to a Z4 3.0). After all - your 325i engine is IDENTICAL to the 330 engine, except BMW "detuned" the computer. Stage 1 is a reprogram of the current software of your engine computer. We modify the computer's fuel and spark mapping, adjust the throttle, adjust the cam and Valvetronic timing, and remove the top speed limiter - basicaly "unlocking" the 330 in your 325. This is the perfect upgrade for someone who wants to boost power, especially in the mid-range, and make the car accelerate faster. We recorded a gain of 19hp and 15ft-lbs of torque on our Dynapack dyno. There are NO downsides of doing this except 91 or higher octane gasoline is required.


Stage 1 includes: software upgrade

Peak HP: 219hp @ 6400rpm Max HP gain = 19 hp @ 4700rpm
Peak Trq: 200ft-lbs @ 4500rpm Max Trq gain = 15 ft-lbs @ 4500rpm

Sale Price: $769.00

Not bad - the market warming up.

[LOLrance]

I dont see anything about the software for 335

[oneshare325]

Is this a new product?, how long has this been out??

[esbezee92]

does anyone else see this as false advertising. i hope considering they are "BMW specialists" that they know there are differences between the 325 and the 330. they are either lying or dont know anything about the motors saying this will turn your 325 into a 330 and to me that its a lose lose situation either way

[oneshare325]

Originally Posted by esbezee92

does anyone else see this as false advertising. i hope considering they are "BMW specialists" that they know there are differences between the 325 and the 330. they are either lying or dont know anything about the motors saying this will turn your 325 into a 330 and to me that its a lose lose situation either way

Plus it is 40hp difference not 19!

[oneshare325]

I looked around and they do make a 335 motor upgrade, 2500 bucks!!!

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...CT_ID=TN54-ST1

Not a piggy back like Procede, Ecu reflash! I would spend my money on the Vishnu!

[bmviz]

I was looking at the dyno results and they tuned nice for a daily driver. The biggest gain (~19hp) around 4500 RPM, where I’m usually spending most of the time…. The top end is drops a “little” probably because of lacking the 3 stage intake effect, but it may be corrected by providing more air thru air filter ( like M-groppe).
In regards to 40 hp difference between 325i to 330i at the engine, 19 hp gain at the wheels and short differential can translate to significant gain in performance.
Anyway, it is the best software performance gain on the market today and I’m waiting to see how the rest of the software gang; Superchip and Bimmerworld will react.
.

[Not Ur Avg 3]

i stilll dont see how this makes ur 325 a 330, becuz i dont think 19 hp cuts it.

[bmviz]

This statement from TMS web site does sound like a "little" marketing hip, but this only a Stage 1 of reprogram and Stage2 probably will come with additional parts and better HP numbers. Let not forget that Turner have 2 winning E46 last year and they have plenty racing experience. Additionally, BImmerword working on further developing of there’s #36 E90 325i sedan for next racing season. I’m not saying that I would need same type of car for a daily driver, but it nice to know that 325i have a potential for significant improvement.
I personally still have of 4 years of warranty left that I wasn’t ready to give it up for other 10HP re-flash. If HP gains will be much more significant and the price more affordable I will seriously consider to drop some $

[Chris.G]

Originally Posted by Not Ur Avg 3

i stilll dont see how this makes ur 325 a 330, becuz i dont think 19 hp cuts it.

Agreed

[d3l0n]

Originally Posted by bmviz

This statement from TMS web site does sound like a "little" marketing hip, but this only a Stage 1 of reprogram and Stage2 probably will come with additional parts and better HP numbers. Let not forget that Turner have 2 winning E46 last year and they have plenty racing experience. Additionally, BImmerword working on further developing of there’s #36 E90 325i sedan for next racing season. I’m not saying that I would need same type of car for a daily driver, but it nice to know that 325i have a potential for significant improvement.
I personally still have of 4 years of warranty left that I wasn’t ready to give it up for other 10HP re-flash. If HP gains will be much more significant and the price more affordable I will seriously consider to drop some $

+1
I'm interested, but same price as procede for the 335i? Its just not worth it due to the amount of boost. I am definitely willing to wait for a decrease. Loook at how much the good air filters cost for N52 Set up. Come on now.

[e30klassic]

Anybody try it ?!? Give us a feeback pls.

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by bmviz

From TMS web site - http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...CT_ID=TN52-ST1


Part #: TN52-ST1
Applications: 2005 - 2006 325i, 525i, Z4 2.5 (E90, E91, E60, Z4)
It's here ! Turn your E90 325i into a 330i (or 525i to 530i, Z4 2.5 to a Z4 3.0). After all - your 325i engine is IDENTICAL to the 330 engine, except BMW "detuned" the computer. Stage 1 is a reprogram of the current software of your engine computer. We modify the computer's fuel and spark mapping, adjust the throttle, adjust the cam and Valvetronic timing, and remove the top speed limiter - basicaly "unlocking" the 330 in your 325. This is the perfect upgrade for someone who wants to boost power, especially in the mid-range, and make the car accelerate faster. We recorded a gain of 19hp and 15ft-lbs of torque on our Dynapack dyno. There are NO downsides of doing this except 91 or higher octane gasoline is required.


Stage 1 includes: software upgrade

Peak HP: 219hp @ 6400rpm Max HP gain = 19 hp @ 4700rpm
Peak Trq: 200ft-lbs @ 4500rpm Max Trq gain = 15 ft-lbs @ 4500rpm

Sale Price: $769.00

Not bad - the market warming up.

why would you ever buy a product from someone who claims the 330i engine is the same as a 325 except for the computer. These guys have NO CLUE and I hope they never sell 1 of these.

[just4kickz]

Originally Posted by bmviz

I was looking at the dyno results and they tuned nice for a daily driver. The biggest gain (~19hp) around 4500 RPM, where I’m usually spending most of the time…. The top end is drops a “little” probably because of lacking the 3 stage intake effect, but it may be corrected by providing more air thru air filter ( like M-groppe).
In regards to 40 hp difference between 325i to 330i at the engine, 19 hp gain at the wheels and short differential can translate to significant gain in performance.
Anyway, it is the best software performance gain on the market today and I’m waiting to see how the rest of the software gang; Superchip and Bimmerworld will react.
.

lol its not consistent enough in the low ranges!

[schneid4323]

Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

why would you ever buy a product from someone who claims the 330i engine is the same as a 325 except for the computer. These guys have NO CLUE and I hope they never sell 1 of these.

Um they are both N52N's buddy. www.realoem.com if you need proff

[montreal_bimmer]

this has been discussed sooooo many times in the last 2 weeks,

i personally dont think much of this upgrade...

i would like to see hard results. videos...

[Jaws]

Originally Posted by schneid4323

Um they are both N52N's buddy. www.realoem.com if you need proff

The engine is the same, but the intake is not. 3-stage intake on the 330 vs the single stage on the 325. That is the big difference between the two. This upgrade is not worth the money.

[SteveMD]

Originally Posted by schneid4323

Um they are both N52N's buddy. www.realoem.com if you need proff

As others have said, the intake is vastly different. And so, I believe is the exhaust. That's your 'proff'.

[schneid4323]

Originally Posted by SteveMD

As others have said, the intake is vastly different. And so, I believe is the exhaust. That's your 'proff'.

Its still the same engine, an S54 (e46 M3) is still the same engine when you put a K&N cold air intake manifold on it, is it not?

[epiphone3]

I love it when people run their mouths.

Tuner doesn't know anything... that is the funniest and stupidest shit I have ever heard.

Turner are a wealth of knowledge when it comes to tuning BMWs. You guys need to do some research and get your stuff straight.

And by the way, I think they released this stage 1 for the 325i to get something out so that everyone will know what is coming down the pipe. Anyone who says that beefing up the midrange the way this software mod does is useless should re-think. Whether or not it is worth the money is another story...

[SteveMD]

Originally Posted by schneid4323

Its still the same engine, an S54 (e46 M3) is still the same engine when you put a K&N cold air intake manifold on it, is it not?

It's the intake manifold. Not an intake filter with a bit of chrome pipe attached to it that idiots pay $400 for.

The manifold has valves, flaps and motors, it is controlled by the ECU. There's a thread devoted to it's operation in this very forum. Here, educate yourself: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37444

And I believe someone on here tried to put it on a 325 and couldn't get it to work with the ECU.

[ScBlacksunshine]

The questions is...couldn't some big time tuner like Turner manufacter a 330 like intake manifold, modeled after the OEM part and sell it with the ECU upgrade..instant 325 to 330 conversion? Or is the manifold really that difficult to build?