Calling all Manual Trans Drag Racers!

Mr. 5 · 03-18-2011, 02:19 PM

I just thought I'd let you know that there will be a point that the flywheel will need to either be resurfaced or replaced because I got to that point.
There are also only a handfull of shops that are willing to resurface the DMF as well. i found one machine shop that would do it for about 100 bucks but he couldn't guarantee anything.
Some will remember that i was at Famoso a couple months ago with an almost brand new stock clutch and it was slipping. I know that the clamping force on the stock clutch isn't that good but i was surprised that it was slipping as bad as it was.

I then put back my ACT, but I went to Irwindale with Terry and the ACT clutch slipped then as well.
The reason is my flywheel.

Luckily, I was able to buy FBI's stock flywheel for a really good price instead of forking over a grand for a brand new one, and there was no way that I was going with an aluminum flywheel that was going to chatter like crazy. I've been there; done that.

Here are some pictures between my old flywheel with 94k miles on it and the other flywheel with 10k miles on it.

Special thanks to JR (alpindevil335) for helping me drop the trans.

enrita · 03-18-2011, 02:22 PM

did you hear strange noises like a rotating klunking noise especially on cold starts?

Mr. 5 · 03-18-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

did you hear strange noises like a rotating klunking noise especially on cold starts?

No but I was noticing "judder" more and more of the clutch disc skipping when taking off from a start.
It was skipping instead of slipping.

Joshboody · 03-18-2011, 02:29 PM

man, wish you went with a light weight one... i'm hoping for many reviews to help my decision on stock or aluminum in the future.

Joshboody · 03-18-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

No but I was noticing "judder" more and more of the clutch disc skipping when taking off from a start.
It was skipping instead of slipping.

I've kinda felt this also. very subtle in first taking off with medium acceleration. I'm stock with just a tune. just felt it a couple times so far and there's no slip that i can feel, even WOT in 5th at highway speeds.

BobS · 03-18-2011, 02:46 PM

I felt this as well but mostly in second gear (wierd). It was after I got my stg 2 installed, i've had 3 times where the car slips and then goes like a batt out of hell. I don't beat on the car, don't drag race it, and generally drive pretty mello. Hopefully my clutch/flywheel isn't going.

dzenno · 03-18-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BobS

I felt this as well but mostly in second gear (wierd). It was after I got my stg 2 installed, i've had 3 times where the car slips and then goes like a batt out of hell. I don't beat on the car, don't drag race it, and generally drive pretty mello. Hopefully my clutch/flywheel isn't going.

If you have a problem with your clutch and don't beat on the car ever that just ends up being a bill with no joy..why?

Mr. 5 · 03-18-2011, 04:15 PM

BTW guys,
The entire process took me about 6 hours but I also had to fix a leak.
My trans was leaking and the seal needed to be redone and that took about 2 hours to do. I separated the trans, cleaned, sealed and let dry.
If I were to do just the clutch again, I bet that I can do it in about 3 hours.
This is just another one of those things where BMW will charge so much more time than what it really takes to do.

Here are some more pictures:

Rotorocious · 03-18-2011, 04:30 PM

Did you put the ACT back on?

Been shopping around for a future clutch install, either clutch masters or ACT.
I value your opinion since you actually drive your car the hardest, what are your thoughts?

Mr. 5 · 03-18-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rotorocious

Did you put the ACT back on?

Hell yah!!
I'm not going to make that mistake again.
The ACT street disc is such a good after market clutch that is still smoothe on the street.
The pedal feel is soo much better too.

Big Tom · 03-18-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Hell yah!!
I'm not going to make that mistake again.
The ACT street disc is such a good after market clutch that is still smoothe on the street.
The pedal feel is soo much better too.

I'm also struggling to find which clutch to go for... So, the ACT is the best way to go for, or?????

badass335 · 03-18-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Tom

I'm also struggling to find which clutch to go for... So, the ACT is the best way to go for, or?????

or get an auto tranny!!!!

Big Tom · 03-18-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by badass335

or get an auto tranny!!!!

OVER MY DEAD BODY!

blisstik · 03-18-2011, 06:40 PM

Just wondering if...

A) Clutch and/or flywheel is covered under 50K/4yr warranty?
B) Clutch and/or flywheel is covered under extended "CPO" 100K/6yr warranty?

I'm guessing NO...

Sniz · 03-18-2011, 06:42 PM

^ good answer

Mr. 5 · 03-18-2011, 08:25 PM

The odds of getting a new clutch under warranty is around 50/50.
Flywheel? I highly doubt it.
They can easily say that it was abused.

Toker335i · 03-18-2011, 11:28 PM

Im in the works of getting a new clutch

hopefully it all goes well. Would hate to pay 2K+ for a new clutch

Palisades · 03-20-2011, 05:00 PM

Mr. 5, I'm also experiencing this skipping problem that you describe. I also have the ACT clutch, and I believe there must be a problem with my flywheel. It feels like it is possibly warped from too much heat. I only have 55k miles on the car though. I'm not sure if this can be corrected by a re-surface, but spending $1200 on a new flywheel is not very exciting. Can you give me info on which shop was willing to do the resurface? Were they able to do the install as well? I'm in the Los Angeles area.

If you or anyone else hears about a stock flywheel for sale, let me know, as I am definitely in the market.

Qmax03 · 03-20-2011, 06:44 PM

How bad is the SM LW Flywheel on the RWD 335i's ? Ive done Hundreds on Nissans/infiniti's and there barely any chatter...

I know my new mod before the get upgraded turbos will have to be a LW flywheel and a new clutch.. i might jsut have to get my DMF resurfaced if its THAT bad.

Mr. 5 · 03-20-2011, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palisades

Mr. 5, I'm also experiencing this skipping problem that you describe. I also have the ACT clutch, and I believe there must be a problem with my flywheel. It feels like it is possibly warped from too much heat. I only have 55k miles on the car though. I'm not sure if this can be corrected by a re-surface, but spending $1200 on a new flywheel is not very exciting. Can you give me info on which shop was willing to do the resurface? Were they able to do the install as well? I'm in the Los Angeles area.

If you or anyone else hears about a stock flywheel for sale, let me know, as I am definitely in the market.

It's not an automotive installation shop. It's a machine shop.
You'll have to drop off the flywheel and then pick it up when done.
It's called Engine Supply on Dyer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qmax03

How bad is the SM LW Flywheel on the RWD 335i's ? Ive done Hundreds on Nissans/infiniti's and there barely any chatter...

I know my new mod before the get upgraded turbos will have to be a LW flywheel and a new clutch.. i might jsut have to get my DMF resurfaced if its THAT bad.

It's pretty bad.
I've heard some videos as well and it's not pleasant

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Mr. 5 Modder Raider 800 Rep 8,633 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surf City, HB iTrader: (31) Garage List 2007 e90 335i [8.00]	Calling all Manual Trans Drag Racers! I just thought I'd let you know that there will be a point that the flywheel will need to either be resurfaced or replaced because I got to that point. There are also only a handfull of shops that are willing to resurface the DMF as well. i found one machine shop that would do it for about 100 bucks but he couldn't guarantee anything. Some will remember that i was at Famoso a couple months ago with an almost brand new stock clutch and it was slipping. I know that the clamping force on the stock clutch isn't that good but i was surprised that it was slipping as bad as it was. I then put back my ACT, but I went to Irwindale with Terry and the ACT clutch slipped then as well. The reason is my flywheel. Luckily, I was able to buy FBI's stock flywheel for a really good price instead of forking over a grand for a brand new one, and there was no way that I was going with an aluminum flywheel that was going to chatter like crazy. I've been there; done that. Here are some pictures between my old flywheel with 94k miles on it and the other flywheel with 10k miles on it. Special thanks to JR (alpindevil335) for helping me drop the trans. Attached Images __________________ e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan e90 335i--SOLD Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM
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BobS Colonel 98 Rep 2,002 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern NJ iTrader: (0)	I felt this as well but mostly in second gear (wierd). It was after I got my stg 2 installed, i've had 3 times where the car slips and then goes like a batt out of hell. I don't beat on the car, don't drag race it, and generally drive pretty mello. Hopefully my clutch/flywheel isn't going. __________________ ESS 650 ACM-R Upgrades
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Mr. 5 Modder Raider 800 Rep 8,633 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surf City, HB iTrader: (31) Garage List 2007 e90 335i [8.00]	BTW guys, The entire process took me about 6 hours but I also had to fix a leak. My trans was leaking and the seal needed to be redone and that took about 2 hours to do. I separated the trans, cleaned, sealed and let dry. If I were to do just the clutch again, I bet that I can do it in about 3 hours. This is just another one of those things where BMW will charge so much more time than what it really takes to do. Here are some more pictures: Attached Images __________________ e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan e90 335i--SOLD Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM
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Rotorocious Lieutenant Colonel 105 Rep 1,520 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: May 2010 Location: Colorado iTrader: (3)	Did you put the ACT back on? Been shopping around for a future clutch install, either clutch masters or ACT. I value your opinion since you actually drive your car the hardest, what are your thoughts?
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Mr. 5 Modder Raider 800 Rep 8,633 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surf City, HB iTrader: (31) Garage List 2007 e90 335i [8.00]	The odds of getting a new clutch under warranty is around 50/50. Flywheel? I highly doubt it. They can easily say that it was abused. __________________ e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan e90 335i--SOLD Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM
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Palisades Private 14 Rep 79 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (2)	Mr. 5, I'm also experiencing this skipping problem that you describe. I also have the ACT clutch, and I believe there must be a problem with my flywheel. It feels like it is possibly warped from too much heat. I only have 55k miles on the car though. I'm not sure if this can be corrected by a re-surface, but spending $1200 on a new flywheel is not very exciting. Can you give me info on which shop was willing to do the resurface? Were they able to do the install as well? I'm in the Los Angeles area. If you or anyone else hears about a stock flywheel for sale, let me know, as I am definitely in the market.
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Qmax03 LINEITUP 61 Rep 725 Posts Drives: 2010 335i MT AW Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York City iTrader: (2)	How bad is the SM LW Flywheel on the RWD 335i's ? Ive done Hundreds on Nissans/infiniti's and there barely any chatter... I know my new mod before the get upgraded turbos will have to be a LW flywheel and a new clutch.. i might jsut have to get my DMF resurfaced if its THAT bad.
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