335d M sport

Berttie21 · 03-29-2011, 05:20 PM

Good evening all,

Just a quick question, what brakes are on the 335d M, are they the same as the BMW performance brake kit? I have asked my dealer to quote me a set of BMW performance brakes and he ensures me that the car already has them. The performance brakes appear to be 4 or 6 pot on slotted discs, definitely not what it looks like on my motor?

Many thanks

Dr Dave · 03-29-2011, 05:22 PM

Nope, 335d brakes are not BMW Performance brakes.

Here's the performance brake kit on my 330d

BMW will not fit the BBK to the 335d as it is not listed for it.

Dr Dave · 03-29-2011, 05:23 PM

btw Ian (Hotcoupe) has the BBK on his 335d with no issues

m1bjr · 03-29-2011, 05:24 PM

Weird isnt it?
Surely the same hub carriers/rotors/calipers as the 335i anyhow?

"Computer says no" mentality again.

Dr Dave · 03-29-2011, 05:27 PM

But I guess they are playing safe, supplying parts for cars that they weren't designed for etc etc yadda yadda

Berttie21 · 03-29-2011, 05:49 PM

Cheers guys, a bit of a shame as the brakes are the only complaint i have with the car, I have been advised that better pads might help. Would love a BIg brake kit but don't want any troubles with the warranty and servicing.

Dr Dave · 03-29-2011, 06:07 PM

The BMW BBK actually uses smaller discs than the standard 335d setup. Suprised you're having trouble with them as they are more than adequate unless you are a real loon, like Carlos!

Dr Dave · 03-29-2011, 06:08 PM

And I see you're in Surrey? Get your ass over to the Surrey rolling road meet!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=501918

m1bjr · 03-31-2011, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berttie21

Cheers guys, a bit of a shame as the brakes are the only complaint i have with the car, I have been advised that better pads might help. Would love a BIg brake kit but don't want any troubles with the warranty and servicing.

Specifically what is lacking?

Steve

dxb335d · 03-31-2011, 11:21 AM

Standard 335 brakes are slightly better then the BMW performance brakes.

Dr Dave · 03-31-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

Standard 335 brakes are slightly better then the BMW performance brakes.

Maybe but std 335d brakes look shite!

Berttie21 · 03-31-2011, 03:19 PM

I had Brembo 4 pots on my previous motor (330bhp Gti) and they were just a lot sharper, however I am getting used to the 335d brakes. They seem to be more gradual but they do get more intensive the further you press ( I know this maybe b@@dy obvious but other cars I have had from about 1/4 of the pedal force you didn't really get much more progressive braking just a lockup). So it might just be a learning experience.

Are the 335d single Pots?

Thanks for all the advice and the rolling road looks like a good idea!

Berttie

m1bjr · 03-31-2011, 05:54 PM

Yes big single pots front and rear.

If you overhaul them they might surprise you.
Mine definatley are firm and easy to modulate.
I have EBC discs and yellowstuff pads which are fairly recent, and Motul RBF600 fluid thats fresh.

I would suggest changing the brake fluid as it sounds past its best.
That may make a huge improvement, if not some new pads will.

The oem calipers are pretty strong, and pretty large.
IKWYM about the Brembos - had them on my R26 but they were also crap until a good overhaul and new pads.
I guess the previous owner never used them enough and they just went to shit.

335iLondon · 04-01-2011, 05:36 AM

M1bjr,

What Yellow stuff pads do you have?
The new compound?

If so how do you find it day to day?
Also where did you get them from ?

Thanks

dxb335d · 04-01-2011, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Dave

Maybe but std 335d brakes look shite!

Not as shite as standard 330d brakes.

m1bjr · 04-01-2011, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335iLondon

M1bjr,

What Yellow stuff pads do you have?
The new compound?

If so how do you find it day to day?
Also where did you get them from ?

Thanks

This car is a daily driver, wife takes it to work and runs the little 'un about and its very civilised.

They bite from cold slightly better than oem, and after a couple of applications they get stonger.
This is the new compound and coated with a break-in material to condition the discs without drama.

Had no squeeling once they were bedded in after 200miles or so, and new it was only VERY slight at light pedal braking.

Bought from Balance Motorsport - nice professional guys. I use them a fair bit.

Steve

335iLondon · 04-01-2011, 11:21 AM

Thanks very much Steve!

zltm089 · 04-01-2011, 12:00 PM

I'm quite happy with the standard brakes....saved me a few times....

W2S · 04-01-2011, 12:45 PM

I think the biggest problem is how easy the hubs rust? do what I'm doing I'm having the hubs repainted and powder coat the brake calipers and updated pads

jamesg · 04-01-2011, 04:08 PM

What are the performance brakes like compared to the ones on my 330i? Like the look of them but would like some other advantages. I'm guessing the discs/pads are quite expensive to replace?

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Berttie21 New Member 3 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 335d M Sport Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	335d M sport - brakes Good evening all, Just a quick question, what brakes are on the 335d M, are they the same as the BMW performance brake kit? I have asked my dealer to quote me a set of BMW performance brakes and he ensures me that the car already has them. The performance brakes appear to be 4 or 6 pot on slotted discs, definitely not what it looks like on my motor? Many thanks
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Dr Dave Zummerzet Zyder Drinker! 115 Rep 5,541 Posts Drives: '06 330D Le Mans Blue Join Date: May 2009 Location: Somerset iTrader: (3) Garage List 2006 330d M Sport [0.00]	Nope, 335d brakes are not BMW Performance brakes. Here's the performance brake kit on my 330d BMW will not fit the BBK to the 335d as it is not listed for it. __________________
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Dr Dave Zummerzet Zyder Drinker! 115 Rep 5,541 Posts Drives: '06 330D Le Mans Blue Join Date: May 2009 Location: Somerset iTrader: (3) Garage List 2006 330d M Sport [0.00]	btw Ian (Hotcoupe) has the BBK on his 335d with no issues __________________
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m1bjr LSD - No, you're not seeing things 73 Rep 3,302 Posts Drives: Baby F36 Gran Coupe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Plymouth UK iTrader: (4)	Weird isnt it? Surely the same hub carriers/rotors/calipers as the 335i anyhow? "Computer says no" mentality again. __________________
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Dr Dave Zummerzet Zyder Drinker! 115 Rep 5,541 Posts Drives: '06 330D Le Mans Blue Join Date: May 2009 Location: Somerset iTrader: (3) Garage List 2006 330d M Sport [0.00]	But I guess they are playing safe, supplying parts for cars that they weren't designed for etc etc yadda yadda __________________
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Berttie21 New Member 3 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 335d M Sport Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	Cheers guys, a bit of a shame as the brakes are the only complaint i have with the car, I have been advised that better pads might help. Would love a BIg brake kit but don't want any troubles with the warranty and servicing.
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Dr Dave Zummerzet Zyder Drinker! 115 Rep 5,541 Posts Drives: '06 330D Le Mans Blue Join Date: May 2009 Location: Somerset iTrader: (3) Garage List 2006 330d M Sport [0.00]	The BMW BBK actually uses smaller discs than the standard 335d setup. Suprised you're having trouble with them as they are more than adequate unless you are a real loon, like Carlos! __________________
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Dr Dave Zummerzet Zyder Drinker! 115 Rep 5,541 Posts Drives: '06 330D Le Mans Blue Join Date: May 2009 Location: Somerset iTrader: (3) Garage List 2006 330d M Sport [0.00]	And I see you're in Surrey? Get your ass over to the Surrey rolling road meet! http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=501918 __________________
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Berttie21 New Member 3 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 335d M Sport Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	I had Brembo 4 pots on my previous motor (330bhp Gti) and they were just a lot sharper, however I am getting used to the 335d brakes. They seem to be more gradual but they do get more intensive the further you press ( I know this maybe b@@dy obvious but other cars I have had from about 1/4 of the pedal force you didn't really get much more progressive braking just a lockup). So it might just be a learning experience. Are the 335d single Pots? Thanks for all the advice and the rolling road looks like a good idea! Berttie
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m1bjr LSD - No, you're not seeing things 73 Rep 3,302 Posts Drives: Baby F36 Gran Coupe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Plymouth UK iTrader: (4)	Yes big single pots front and rear. If you overhaul them they might surprise you. Mine definatley are firm and easy to modulate. I have EBC discs and yellowstuff pads which are fairly recent, and Motul RBF600 fluid thats fresh. I would suggest changing the brake fluid as it sounds past its best. That may make a huge improvement, if not some new pads will. The oem calipers are pretty strong, and pretty large. IKWYM about the Brembos - had them on my R26 but they were also crap until a good overhaul and new pads. I guess the previous owner never used them enough and they just went to shit. __________________
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335iLondon Captain 37 Rep 914 Posts Drives: 07' 335i Msport Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London iTrader: (0)	M1bjr, What Yellow stuff pads do you have? The new compound? If so how do you find it day to day? Also where did you get them from ? Thanks
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335iLondon Captain 37 Rep 914 Posts Drives: 07' 335i Msport Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Thanks very much Steve!
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W2S Private 15 Rep 69 Posts Drives: 335D A M Sport Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Essex iTrader: (0)	I think the biggest problem is how easy the hubs rust? do what I'm doing I'm having the hubs repainted and powder coat the brake calipers and updated pads
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jamesg Private 12 Rep 69 Posts Drives: M135i Join Date: May 2010 Location: South West iTrader: (0)	What are the performance brakes like compared to the ones on my 330i? Like the look of them but would like some other advantages. I'm guessing the discs/pads are quite expensive to replace?
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