[Watah]

Hi everyone,
my first zaino pack came in the mail yesterday

i got Z-AIO and Z5pro because i read it was the basic requirement for my jet black car

so what i did is:
1. dawn wash and dry
2. put Z-AIO and it was kind of humid out so i let it dry for a good 45 minutes
3. Wiped off the AIO
4. Applied the Z5 without ZFX or whatever
5. let dry for like 2 hours
6 wiped off

then after that i wasn't COMPLETELY impressed with what i got so i just topped it with meguiarsNXTtech wax


is there anything i did wrong?

[picus]

You didn't do anything wrong. What about the look isn't impressing you? Was it better after the NXT? If so the issue might be the fillers in NXT, but I will wait for your reply to go into that.

[bimmernotbeamer]

I'll differ with Picus and say from a Zaino perspective, you did do something wrong. NXT is essentially a cleaner wax that will strip off whatever other wax/product/etc is underneath. In your case, the Zaino you applied was removed after layering the NXT over top.

[jbake]

wash car, remove old wax, polish, glaze/sealant, wax, wax, wax.....works great for me

[picus]

Originally Posted by DavidN

I'll differ with Picus and say from a Zaino perspective, you did do something wrong. NXT is essentially a cleaner wax that will strip off whatever other wax/product/etc is underneath. In your case, the Zaino you applied was removed after layering the NXT over top.

Oh ya, well that part was wrong. What I meant was the Zaino part wasn't wrong. I assumed he was not pleased with the results of the Zaino, so applied NXT. I should have been more specific.

I'm willing to bet this is one of those cases where the car probably needs polishing, so Zaino didn't look great, and NXT looks better because it's doing some filling.

[huchung]

you need a few layers to notice the 'wet' look. A couple coats of z5 should do the job!

[Jeeves915]

Also: z5 is designed as a filler wax to help repair small scratches, swirls, spidering, ect. Z2 is what you use for the ridiculously deep finish Zaino is known for.

When I used Zaino on my old car (haven't gotten more yet for the new 335 yet), I did the following:
Washed with my favorite soap
1 Coat z5
2 Coats z2

And called it a day.
-Ghent

[bimmernotbeamer]

Originally Posted by picus

Oh ya, well that part was wrong. What I meant was the Zaino part wasn't wrong. I assumed he was not pleased with the results of the Zaino, so applied NXT. I should have been more specific.

I'm willing to bet this is one of those cases where the car probably needs polishing, so Zaino didn't look great, and NXT looks better because it's doing some filling.

Oh ok, I gotcha! Agreed, probably needs some polishing to bring out the paint. The Z (or any LSP) will be the last 1% (icing on the cake).

[dejav0o]

Typically with the initial application of Zaino, the first layer doesn't build the expected results. I would recommend that you apply three layers of zaino, if it's your first time applying to the car, then you'll definitely see the shine.

Just like the op, I wasn't overly impressed when I applied the first layer, but after the 3rd layer along with Z6, I was amazed at the results.

[rikuF10]

When I did my Zaino process, I found the Z5Pro is a great filler for those scatches. However, its gloss and shine is not as good as the Z2Pro. Get a few layer of Z2Pro on top of it and you will love it!

[Call]

Dawn wash
claybar
Zaino car wash
AIO
Z2Pro (3 coats)

You forgot to claybar.

Call

[ironic]

good info here, bookmarking for future

[huchung]

Originally Posted by Call

Dawn wash
claybar
Zaino car wash
AIO
Z2Pro (3 coats)

You forgot to claybar.

Call

I didnt claybar, and mine turned out fine. Claybar isnt necessary on new paint. Its too excessive to clay a car that has a 1 month old paint... (if you bought it new)

[Watah]

Originally Posted by picus

You didn't do anything wrong. What about the look isn't impressing you? Was it better after the NXT? If so the issue might be the fillers in NXT, but I will wait for your reply to go into that.

sorry for the late response (spring break)

i noticed that the car looked "wetter" after the NXT

yes its new paint

and i think you're right about the polishing because i dont have that porter cable that everyones so hyped about...haha i have this 6" thing from walmart...i know its dangerous

but another concern i was having was when i read the sticky it said you top the Z5 over the Z1 and buff them off at the same time and i was wondering if AIO was supposed to be used the same as the old Z1 in this way

also im kind of confused because i dont have ZFX and the sticky said wait 24 hours? so layering will take multiple days?

[Rover]

Originally Posted by huchung

I didnt claybar, and mine turned out fine. Claybar isnt necessary on new paint. Its too excessive to clay a car that has a 1 month old paint... (if you bought it new)

I understood that with the tape and chemical coating on these cars....that clay barring was a good idea on a new car.

[bimmernotbeamer]

Originally Posted by justaddwatah

sorry for the late response (spring break)

i noticed that the car looked "wetter" after the NXT

yes its new paint

and i think you're right about the polishing because i dont have that porter cable that everyones so hyped about...haha i have this 6" thing from walmart...i know its dangerous

but another concern i was having was when i read the sticky it said you top the Z5 over the Z1 and buff them off at the same time and i was wondering if AIO was supposed to be used the same as the old Z1 in this way

also im kind of confused because i dont have ZFX and the sticky said wait 24 hours? so layering will take multiple days?

ZAIO works different than Z1. For ZAIO you can apply to the whole car, then remove in the order you applied it. Then you can put Z2 or Z5 over top on the whole car. Let it dry and then remove.

And yes, without ZFX you will need to wait 24 hours between layers of z2/z5.

I need to update the sticky to reflect the new products.

[OC Guy]

Originally Posted by huchung

I didnt claybar, and mine turned out fine. Claybar isnt necessary on new paint. Its too excessive to clay a car that has a 1 month old paint... (if you bought it new)

Rail dust is bad. Excessive? That's subjective, I respectfully disagree.

[mercury26]

Originally Posted by huchung

I didnt claybar, and mine turned out fine. Claybar isnt necessary on new paint. Its too excessive to clay a car that has a 1 month old paint... (if you bought it new)

I disagree also.

Cheers,

Chuck

[jfulcher]

Originally Posted by huchung

I didnt claybar, and mine turned out fine. Claybar isnt necessary on new paint. Its too excessive to clay a car that has a 1 month old paint... (if you bought it new)

Wrong!

New cars are when you really want to use it! They run into all kinds of things along the way such as rail dust and industrial fallout. Not to mention paint overspray, road tar, and possibly acid rain deposits depending on how long it sat somewhere.

[sesegal99]

I don't know....Zaino is the best product I've ever used n terms of finish and ease. Claybar is a must and the first couple coats suck up the zaino to get a base...here's from one of my other posts.

Ok Heres what I did:

Wash w/ Dawn (Hot Water)

Claybar the entire car. I thought it was clean...there were lots of little blemishes I couldn't see, I felt them though when claying.

Used MR. Clean car washer to spray off entire car with filtered water.

One coat Z5

One coat Z2

Z6 Gloss Enhancer

Another coat Z2

Z6 Gloss Enhancer

Another coat Z2

Waxed Rims

Cleaned all windows

Dressed tires and allweather mats

Cleaned and polished chrome tips



Here's some picts:




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and my buddies 335:

[Rover]

Nice Pix!!

Did you also use ZFX ( as recommended by Zaino) with your Z2 and Z5?

[sesegal99]

no zfx..... just whats listed. always end w z2. use the z6 spray in between and after washes to make it look like you just zainoed it.... amazing stuff.