Can I run Map2 JB4 with the 335is safely

HaZe_X · 05-05-2011, 02:15 AM

Just sitting here thinking at 2:15am...

I know map2 requires additional cooling such as a FMIC and possibly downpipes...But since 335is already has additional cooling put into place, what are the chances us 'is' guys can run this map safely, using 93oct of course...

Or any of you already running Map2 with no problems?

slow4.7 · 05-05-2011, 02:50 AM

will also like to know this

plague · 05-05-2011, 03:21 AM

i run map 2 all the time and only have vishnu intakes. downpipes and FMIC going on the car once they arrive from jet hot though so still, map 2. i spoke to robert from vishnu on the phone its not about the temps so much with running map 2 stock settings vs map 1 but the stress on your turbos. with dci's you are now making it much easier for turbos to get that extra air to hit those higher boost targets. i run map 2 now and it feels and runs great with 93 octane. powerful. at LEAST intakes, and even more bolt ons obviously =. better.

GodLy · 05-05-2011, 03:46 AM

i tried on 335i MAP2, but it feels lower power then autotuning.. And talking about can you run safe MAP 2 on 335is, answer is yes you can... no need extra fmic...

tscdennab · 05-05-2011, 04:01 AM

335is has the same IATs and the same EGTs as the 335i (same intercooler, the same 4 cats). You really need downpipes (to lower backpressure and evacuate hotter gases faster) and intercooler for this. Why risk it ?

Elie335i · 05-05-2011, 04:14 AM

^ this, to be sure, log and make a WOT run, if you timing drops, then you have to lower the map, just LOG and see how it goes

chili36 · 05-05-2011, 04:17 AM

Like mentioned above. Log it.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 05-05-2011, 06:52 AM

Why not use map 5 and let the JB4 which has access to 100s of pieces of information real time decide for you on the fly?

Mike

bigdaddycane · 05-05-2011, 08:06 AM

Map 1 or 5 for your current setup. I run Map 5 and prefer it to Map 1.

bmwm3redblack · 05-05-2011, 10:33 AM

map5 is autotuning? Can it really adapt to your octane and mods? Is it really good enough?

bigdaddycane · 05-05-2011, 11:02 AM

^ yes

kmalhas · 06-01-2011, 04:16 PM

what if i install dci, can i run map2? do i still need downpipes or fmic? tscdennab said 335is has the same intercooler as 335i. sorry im a beginner, but doesnt 335is have an extra cooler over the 335i? I dont want to install a fmic or downpipes because i want to keep mods as simple as possible so if i wanna remove them it wont be a big problem

bigdaddycane · 06-01-2011, 06:18 PM

Don't run Map 2 until you have the correct mods that BMS developed it for.

The FMIC is not that intrusive of an install and makes a big difference. DPs are another story.

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HaZe_X Second Lieutenant 24 Rep 251 Posts Drives: 2011 335is Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Can I run Map2 JB4 with the 335is safely Just sitting here thinking at 2:15am... I know map2 requires additional cooling such as a FMIC and possibly downpipes...But since 335is already has additional cooling put into place, what are the chances us 'is' guys can run this map safely, using 93oct of course... Or any of you already running Map2 with no problems? __________________ 2011 335is Le Mans Blue l Black Interior l Convenience Package l iDrive l Heated Seats l Manual Trans l PROcede V5 l BMS DCI l ETS ChargePipe l Synapse BOV l Order Date: 4/12/11 Delivery: 5/30/11
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slow4.7 Private 14 Rep 75 Posts Drives: blue 335i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: texas iTrader: (0)	will also like to know this
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05-05-2011, 03:21 AM	#3
plague Captain 42 Rep 957 Posts Drives: 335i sold :( / jb 20th AE Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (2)	i run map 2 all the time and only have vishnu intakes. downpipes and FMIC going on the car once they arrive from jet hot though so still, map 2. i spoke to robert from vishnu on the phone its not about the temps so much with running map 2 stock settings vs map 1 but the stress on your turbos. with dci's you are now making it much easier for turbos to get that extra air to hit those higher boost targets. i run map 2 now and it feels and runs great with 93 octane. powerful. at LEAST intakes, and even more bolt ons obviously =. better.
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GodLy DSC OFF! 34 Rep 230 Posts Drives: 991 Turbo S Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Localhost iTrader: (2)	i tried on 335i MAP2, but it feels lower power then autotuning.. And talking about can you run safe MAP 2 on 335is, answer is yes you can... no need extra fmic... __________________
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05-05-2011, 04:01 AM	#5
tscdennab Banned 156 Rep 1,809 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Europe iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW [6.24]	335is has the same IATs and the same EGTs as the 335i (same intercooler, the same 4 cats). You really need downpipes (to lower backpressure and evacuate hotter gases faster) and intercooler for this. Why risk it ?
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Elie335i Legit :) 17 Rep 369 Posts Drives: 335Is/320i both coupe. Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Inside my 335i. iTrader: (0)	^ this, to be sure, log and make a WOT run, if you timing drops, then you have to lower the map, just LOG and see how it goes __________________ Recent exterior modifications
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chili36 Lieutenant 6 Rep 461 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: So.Cal iTrader: (1)	Like mentioned above. Log it.
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 5037 Rep 116,174 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	Why not use map 5 and let the JB4 which has access to 100s of pieces of information real time decide for you on the fly? Mike
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bmwm3redblack Captain 63 Rep 886 Posts Drives: BMW ///M3 E46, BMW E92 335Xi Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: e13 osl iTrader: (0)	map5 is autotuning? Can it really adapt to your octane and mods? Is it really good enough?
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06-01-2011, 04:16 PM	#12
kmalhas Private 5 Rep 94 Posts Drives: '11 335is Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Washington, DC iTrader: (2)	what if i install dci, can i run map2? do i still need downpipes or fmic? tscdennab said 335is has the same intercooler as 335i. sorry im a beginner, but doesnt 335is have an extra cooler over the 335i? I dont want to install a fmic or downpipes because i want to keep mods as simple as possible so if i wanna remove them it wont be a big problem
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