[JohnnyT]

This weekend I plan to polish my wife's black Honda Pilot. It really needs it and I plan to clay then use Meguiars 205 with my PC followed by an IPA wipedown and then Collinite 845.

Was not planning a more abrasive polish before the 205.

Do you think the 205 alone will leave a nice finish?

[Focus]

to properly answer your questions we'd need to know a few things ..

what kind of PC are you using?

How bad is the paint?

Are you trying to remove deep swirls or light swirls?

what color pad are you using?

[Express]

please do some more homework before you do what appears to be a 1 step polish with m205......

[JohnnyT]

Originally Posted by Focus

to properly answer your questions we'd need to know a few things ..

what kind of PC are you using?

How bad is the paint?

Are you trying to remove deep swirls or light swirls?

what color pad are you using?

PC 7424

Paint is not too bad. Some light swirls and some oxidation.

Was going to use the Uber orange (medium polishing) pad or the Uber green polishing pad. Got them detailers domain.

[JohnnyT]

Originally Posted by express705

please do some more homework before you do what appears to be a 1 step polish with m205......

Since I've never done it before I figured best to stick with the milder polish. I won't have the energy to polish the whole truck twice.

[Envious Eric]

oxidation and swirls - a two step process to get 90% correction. If you are settling for 75%-ish, then 205 WILL brighten the finish, remove SOME defects, and remove the oxidation WITH an orange pad. a green pad might be a little bit of a stretch as its a polishing pad vs a cutting pad.

To be honest, I've never had 205 finish down well enough on a black car. You will more than likely have lots of micromarring as its a "non-dimishing" abrasive, which means the whole time you are working it, its cutting to a degree. Polishing with a product like menzerna or others with "diminishing abrasives" start off cutting, but then get refined into a non-abrasive state where all you are doing by working it longer is jeweling the paint (menzerna 85rd - very little cut if any, long working time, excellent final step)

Just my two cents....

[Express]

if you aren't going to do it right don't bother...

[Dr. G]

Originally Posted by Envious Eric

oxidation and swirls - a two step process to get 90% correction. If you are settling for 75%-ish, then 205 WILL brighten the finish, remove SOME defects, and remove the oxidation WITH an orange pad. a green pad might be a little bit of a stretch as its a polishing pad vs a cutting pad.

To be honest, I've never had 205 finish down well enough on a black car. You will more than likely have lots of micromarring as its a "non-dimishing" abrasive, which means the whole time you are working it, its cutting to a degree. Polishing with a product like menzerna or others with "diminishing abrasives" start off cutting, but then get refined into a non-abrasive state where all you are doing by working it longer is jeweling the paint (menzerna 85rd - very little cut if any, long working time, excellent final step)

Just my two cents....

Never knew about the 205 not finishing down too well on a black car... definitely will take this into consideration when purchasing a set of polishes for my black car.

[JohnnyT]

Originally Posted by Envious Eric

oxidation and swirls - a two step process to get 90% correction. If you are settling for 75%-ish, then 205 WILL brighten the finish, remove SOME defects, and remove the oxidation WITH an orange pad. a green pad might be a little bit of a stretch as its a polishing pad vs a cutting pad.

To be honest, I've never had 205 finish down well enough on a black car. You will more than likely have lots of micromarring as its a "non-dimishing" abrasive, which means the whole time you are working it, its cutting to a degree. Polishing with a product like menzerna or others with "diminishing abrasives" start off cutting, but then get refined into a non-abrasive state where all you are doing by working it longer is jeweling the paint (menzerna 85rd - very little cut if any, long working time, excellent final step)

Just my two cents....

Might Menzerna Power finish 203s be a better choice for one step polishing?

[Envious Eric]

Originally Posted by JohnnyT

Might Menzerna Power finish 203s be a better choice for one step polishing?

well, it is my go to one step polish!

however, honda has pretty soft black paint, so something like menzerna 106 might be a better choice if you are set on just one step. 203 and then 85rd would be able to bring the finish to a cool 85-90 level and really amp the gloss though

[JohnnyT]

Originally Posted by Envious Eric

well, it is my go to one step polish!

however, honda has pretty soft black paint, so something like menzerna 106 might be a better choice if you are set on just one step. 203 and then 85rd would be able to bring the finish to a cool 85-90 level and really amp the gloss though

If I am set on one-step, isn't Menzerna 106 very much like Meguiars 205 (which I already have and planned to use)??

[Envious Eric]

106 Finishes Much Better.

[Focus]

Originally Posted by Envious Eric

106 Finishes Much Better.

106fa FtW

[JohnnyT]

Tried 205 today on the hood only after claying and IPA wipe..... And you guys are 100% right..... 205 didn't get out the etched water marks. Raw weather today kept me from continuing but I definitely think I need 105 to start with.

The 205 with an orange pad had little impact.

Live and learn.

[burton727]

Originally Posted by JohnnyT

Tried 205 today on the hood only after claying and IPA wipe..... And you guys are 100% right..... 205 didn't get out the etched water marks. Raw weather today kept me from continuing but I definitely think I need 105 to start with.

The 205 with an orange pad had little impact.

Live and learn.

post pics when your done!

[tofu-]

dunno about honda paint, but on my jet black, 203s on a white pad followed by 85rd on black pad gave amazing results

[Focus]

live learn ...

and listen, lol..so i suppose you didnt do the rest of the car?

[JohnnyT]

Originally Posted by Focus

live learn ...

and listen, lol..so i suppose you didnt do the rest of the car?

Nope. Was drizzling and was hard getting around in a single car garage. Better to do on a dry clear day in the shade.

[NickP]

I find M205 finishes down very well using the correct technique -

Have a look here for results on a Sapphire Black car
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=520565

[JohnnyT]

Originally Posted by NickP

I find M205 finishes down very well using the correct technique -

Have a look here for results on a Sapphire Black car
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=520565

Thanks. Those are the results I am looking for. I just need to spend the time to do the all-important 105 step