Procede v5: new features/maps

OpenFlash · 05-26-2011, 11:46 AM

Hi guys,
I have another v5 beta release (5-25) ready to go. Just waiting on some feedback from a few people I've sent it out to this morning. Got a few old features/maps back

What’s new/back:
-7DCT maps now available again.

-Upgraded Turbo maps now available again. If you are running early production date RB turbos with the misadjusted wastegates, reduce boost gain to 30% or else you will overboost/oscillate/get throttle closure. Later production date RB turbos can run default gain settings. These upgraded turbo maps should only be used for full turbo upgrades (TD, ASR or RB). Those running compressor only upgrades (Helix, AWD, EPL, etc,.) turbos should run the standard turbo maps.

-Procede Traction Control now active again. This system works independently of the factory traction control system. It is NOT a stability control system. It will only reduced boost pressure in the event of power-induced wheelspin. It does not apply any brake force to any wheel so it will not prevent you from losing control of your car. But when it comes to putting down the power under boost, it is VERY EFFECTIVE at moderating wheelspin-- even with all the BMW traction/stability nannies are disabled. This does NOT mean that you have to disable the BMW nannies. Procede TC will work properly with any BMW DSC/DTC setting. Default is 100% (off). To enable, lower this value. The lower the value, the more sensitive the Procede will be to traction loss. A suggested starting point is 30%. If you like a bit more wheelspin, try 50% or thereabouts.

-Slightly revised boost DC mapping for all maps. This should resolve the underboost code that a 2 people reported during light throttle acceleration. If anyone still sees this code, it is because your wastegates are soft/loose. to fix, go ahead and raise boost dc from the default value of 45% to 50%.

-A small update to CANshift (for 6MTs only) has been implemented. Now more boost will be maintained between shifts (if you shift quickly enough!)

-As with the 5-20 maps, autotuning is still only active in “read only” mode. Leave this turned ON. It will not adjust boost/timing automatically. It will only update aggression level.

-The Baro Offsetting user adjustable now activates PWM meth. It will be renamed in the next release version of the User Software. So unless you are running our PWM meth kit, you must leave this feature disabled (set to 0). As with running in regular non-PWM meth mode, make sure you put a meth flow value in the Injection Mode user adjustable. Without this, you wont be able to switch to Map 4 (progressive meth mapping mode). For those not running meth, leave Injection Mode value set to 0.

With everything else sorted out, we are very very close to fully activating autotuning again. Hopefully within the next several days. The new logic is much smarter than the old logic and works beautifully with DIC. At this point, v5 DIC it will officially become non-beta.

Cheers,
shiv

dzenno · 05-26-2011, 11:49 AM

sweet!

jdbretz · 05-26-2011, 12:05 PM

Great news!

NiVeDh · 05-26-2011, 12:06 PM

Awesome! Can't wait to try.

Slops · 05-26-2011, 12:09 PM

great... now will N55 start getting some love

KyLu II · 05-26-2011, 12:10 PM

Fantastic!

OpenFlash · 05-26-2011, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sloppy

great... now will N55 start getting some love

Yep... what we have always done is port over all the n54 code to the n55 once we are fully functional. This means that the n55 benefits from all the n54 beta testing. Unfortunately, since there is so much hardware/application variance with n54 (wastegate, turbos, mods, power levels etc,), this process can take a while. But once stable, porting over to n55 is painless

Slops · 05-26-2011, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Yep... what we have always done is port over all the n54 code to the n55 once we are fully functional. This means that the n55 benefits from all the n54 beta testing. Unfortunately, since there is so much hardware/application variance with n54 (wastegate, turbos, mods, power levels etc,), this process can take a while. But once stable, porting over to n55 is painless

Thank you good sir

Syndicategt · 05-26-2011, 12:23 PM

Sweet another update! I just fell in love with 5-10, can't wait for this one to go on. My kit is a PWM kit but I guess The Baro Offsetting won't work for me, I might have to wire in the PROcede to control it now

Brian135i · 05-26-2011, 12:32 PM

Lol...I just got a underboost code during light throttle acceleration. Good thing I read this thread. I was thinking, I had a boost leak.

Joe@TopGearSolutions · 05-26-2011, 12:35 PM

Brey335i · 05-26-2011, 12:35 PM

I should have had that traction control at the autocross last weekend haha

Great work!

Slidewayz · 05-26-2011, 12:41 PM

Cool !

You must be doing something right, since I can't stay hooked up in 3rd gear with 275/19 Nittos.

TurboSid · 05-26-2011, 12:48 PM

Shiv how does the v5 adjust for those of us with the overboost function? (335is in my example) Should we run with the sport button enabled or disabled?

OpenFlash · 05-26-2011, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboSid

Shiv how does the v5 adjust for those of us with the overboost function? (335is in my example) Should we run with the sport button enabled or disabled?

It doesn't matter either way since the Procede has absolute control (not piggyback) over the boost controls system. Either setting is fine.

Doug007 · 05-26-2011, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

At this point, v5 DIC it will officially become non-beta.

Cheers,
shiv

Non-beta? That's crazy talk

TurboSid · 05-26-2011, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

It doesn't matter either way since the Procede has absolute control (not piggyback) over the boost controls system. Either setting is fine.

Thanks, can't wait to break the new car in and go for a spin

shockin330i · 05-26-2011, 01:17 PM

Well then you know you can always send beta n55 maps my way.

Infamous · 05-26-2011, 02:02 PM

My dic tingles at this notion.

**335i** · 05-26-2011, 02:17 PM

nice....autotuning coming soon....

Pepe_pr · 05-26-2011, 02:24 PM

nice !!! enjoy

Glowin · 05-26-2011, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Procede Traction Control now active again

This system works independently of the factory traction control system. It is NOT a stability control system. It will only reduced boost pressure in the event of power-induced wheelspin. It does not apply any brake force to any wheel so it will not prevent you from losing control of your car. But when it comes to putting down the power under boost, it is VERY EFFECTIVE at moderating wheelspin-- even with all the BMW traction/stability nannies are disabled. This does NOT mean that you have to disable the BMW nannies. Procede TC will work properly with any BMW DSC/DTC setting. Default is 100% (off). To enable, lower this value. The lower the value, the more sensitive the Procede will be to traction loss. A suggested starting point is 30%. If you like a bit more wheelspin, try 50% or thereabouts.

shiv

Ok, sorry I'm not getting this... Can I get a TC for dummies please?

If you want some wheel spinning, you basically don't touch the DTC button at all, and turn on the Procede?

Or you press the DTC once, so BMW's system allows some wheel spin, and then Procede kicks in when you want, and it adjusts boost pressure, not throttle blade position.

I guess I also don't understand fully how BMW's press-the-DTC-button-once system works. I thought it allowed for wheelspin completely?

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