JB4/FSB Integration

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-04-2011, 09:25 PM

Hey guys,

Quick photo here showing how the FSB connects in to the JB4 harness. Extremely simple and clean! Just one wire runs out of the DME box to the solenoid/pump which grounds on the bracket and you're good to go. The JB4 then runs the meth pump and solenoid directly based on RPM, boost, throttle, timing advance, map selection, etc. It also gets flow/load information from the FSB which is used for the progressive meth mapping/safety and can also be displayed in dash. They have 10 alpha testers lined up and hope to have everything ready for the general public shortly after that testing is wrapped up.

In addition to the WW kit (windshield washer kit) the FSB integration can be used with virtually any meth pump or kit. Alone it will retail for $150 with the JB4/N54 wiring preinstalled or $125 with bare wires. They will also be offering all the popular CM tank kits with the FSB alone at a considerable savings over the CMGS/VC2 kits for those who prefer trunk mount to WW mount.

Irishace · 06-05-2011, 09:59 AM

Looking very sweet Mike! Can't wait to get my test unit!

farbmw · 06-05-2011, 10:06 AM

This maybe a dumb question but what does FSB stand for?

shonuff · 06-05-2011, 10:15 AM

Failsafe box

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-06-2011, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishace

Looking very sweet Mike! Can't wait to get my test unit!

Cool.. Can't wait for some feedback.

Mike

tofu- · 06-06-2011, 01:27 PM

how does this wire up to the pinout jb4? i'm not very good with photos. need something like

red wire goes to pin #x
blue wire replaces pin #x

etc

edit: the yellow wire is the only thing going to the dme?

smokinHawk · 06-06-2011, 02:00 PM

nice so this controls allows integration to the jb4 to meth kit for a better price then the CMGS/VC2 kit?

does the kit need a flow sensor?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-07-2011, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokinHawk

nice so this controls allows integration to the jb4 to meth kit for a better price then the CMGS/VC2 kit?

does the kit need a flow sensor?

The FSB does the integration and reports back flow to the JB4.

Mike

marconi118 · 06-08-2011, 03:40 AM

What are the signals on the 2 wires?
Blue = meth flow

Orange= PWM from JB4 to modulate the flow?

How does the FSB measures the flow without a flow meter? it senses the current flowing in the pump motor?

smokinHawk · 06-08-2011, 09:11 AM

very interesting, when will this be released to the pubic?
So i take it that this will integrate my old progressive kit i have laying around (no flow sensor)

also interested about the flow without flow meter?

CosmosMpower · 06-08-2011, 10:27 AM

Is this similar to the new Vishnu kit utilizing the stock windshield wiper fluid tank with the difference of having 1 extra piece of hardware for safety?

What's the cost of the full meth kit?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-08-2011, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marconi118

What are the signals on the 2 wires?
Blue = meth flow

Orange= PWM from JB4 to modulate the flow?

How does the FSB measures the flow without a flow meter? it senses the current flowing in the pump motor?

They use a proprietary method to measure pump flow which is fed back to the JB4 for progressive mapping and the failsafe.

Mike

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-08-2011, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

Is this similar to the new Vishnu kit utilizing the stock windshield wiper fluid tank with the difference of having 1 extra piece of hardware for safety?

What's the cost of the full meth kit?

The JB4/FSB integration can be used with the upcoming BMS WW kit or any of the existing CM tanks.

Mike

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-09-2011, 02:31 PM

Kits are now available for those interested

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=542473

Mike

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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 5057 Rep 116,213 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	JB4/FSB Integration Hey guys, Quick photo here showing how the FSB connects in to the JB4 harness. Extremely simple and clean! Just one wire runs out of the DME box to the solenoid/pump which grounds on the bracket and you're good to go. The JB4 then runs the meth pump and solenoid directly based on RPM, boost, throttle, timing advance, map selection, etc. It also gets flow/load information from the FSB which is used for the progressive meth mapping/safety and can also be displayed in dash. They have 10 alpha testers lined up and hope to have everything ready for the general public shortly after that testing is wrapped up. In addition to the WW kit (windshield washer kit) the FSB integration can be used with virtually any meth pump or kit. Alone it will retail for $150 with the JB4/N54 wiring preinstalled or $125 with bare wires. They will also be offering all the popular CM tank kits with the FSB alone at a considerable savings over the CMGS/VC2 kits for those who prefer trunk mount to WW mount. Attached Images
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