procede logs

dirtmaster666 · 06-08-2011, 10:11 PM

kind of confused on these logs...i am lightly modded and even at 13.5 psi i still get a little timing drops...and also my throttle blades seem to be really fluctuating andy reasons why or suggestions on how to mabey fix this?? and also these timing drops dont seem to overly serious but i think it is do to my throttle blades... what is an exceptable drop in timing. i know none is best but what is exceptable?? also why are my banks different?

thes logs are
1- 13.5psi
2- 14psi
3- 14.5 psi

and also i am running shell 91 and temp was about 17c

BMW1986 · 06-08-2011, 10:22 PM

what maps are you running?

dirtmaster666 · 06-08-2011, 10:44 PM

these areb 5-10 dic enabled

dirtmaster666 · 06-08-2011, 11:45 PM

????

dirtmaster666 · 06-09-2011, 12:25 AM

any thoughts?

dirtmaster666 · 06-09-2011, 09:54 AM

Bump

Elie335 · 06-09-2011, 10:00 AM

your map is too aggressive on the fuel you are using, there's KNOCK and timing is low....

EDIT: your CAN throttle log is OK, that's not the reason you're KNOCKING

awd · 06-09-2011, 11:30 AM

Email them to sales@vishnutuning.com. They will let you know.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 06-09-2011, 11:38 AM

Stick with low boost.

Your throttle is fine. That is just a fluctuation in voltage or something which is normal.

Your banks arent different its just that you put 2 banks in 1 graph and it scales the other up.

themyst · 06-09-2011, 11:46 AM

What gear was this pull? Your IATs are skyrocketing for a single gear pull.

jdbretz · 06-09-2011, 11:53 AM

The timing drops could be cause by a couple of things. I think some are caused by your IAT's shooting up. An upgraded FMIC would help with that. After your IAT raise above a certain temperature, the DME will begin running less aggressive timing to aid in the prevention of knock. With higher octane fuel or a FMIC your timing would look better at the same boost. Lower your boost to 13 and do a log and see how it looks. When you did your log, did you have DTC/DSC turned completely off (hold the DTC button for about 5 seconds)? If not do that for the next log just to confirm the throttle closures aren't caused by DTC.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 06-09-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jdbretz

The timing drops could be cause by a couple of things. I think some are caused by your IAT's shooting up. An upgraded FMIC would help with that. After your IAT raise above a certain temperature, the DME will begin running less aggressive timing to aid in the prevention of knock. With higher octane fuel or a FMIC your timing would look better at the same boost. Lower your boost to 13 and do a log and see how it looks. When you did your log, did you have DTC/DSC turned completely off (hold the DTC button for about 5 seconds)? If not do that for the next log just to confirm the throttle closures aren't caused by DTC.

dirtmaster666 · 06-09-2011, 01:36 PM

Ya dtc off and these 3rd gear to 4 pulls

jdbretz · 06-09-2011, 02:21 PM

Did you do back to back logs? The stock FMIC becomes heat soaked quickly and could be why your IAT's are rising so quickly although its not known for it's cooling ability above stock boost levels. On your next log, log the "Throttle" channel and overlay it with the CAN DBW Throttle. That will help us see whether the throttle closures correlates to the actual throttle pedel. Also drop the boost to 13 and see how your timing looks.

06-08-2011, 10:11 PM	#1
dirtmaster666 "J" BONE 38 Rep 578 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: edmonton iTrader: (0)	procede logs kind of confused on these logs...i am lightly modded and even at 13.5 psi i still get a little timing drops...and also my throttle blades seem to be really fluctuating andy reasons why or suggestions on how to mabey fix this?? and also these timing drops dont seem to overly serious but i think it is do to my throttle blades... what is an exceptable drop in timing. i know none is best but what is exceptable?? also why are my banks different? thes logs are 1- 13.5psi 2- 14psi 3- 14.5 psi and also i am running shell 91 and temp was about 17c Attached Images __________________ procede v5 rev3, afe dual cone intake, full catless exhaust with muffler delete, hm style carbon fibre lip, 235/35/19,275/30/19 satin black linea corse818, H&R sport springs, Vishnu charge pipe with forged diverter valves, matte black kidneys, mtec superwhite angel eyes and fogs, bms cdv ER fmic, VRSF coated DP. Vishnu pwm meth kit
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BMW1986 Major 93 Rep 1,465 Posts Drives: 11 M3 E92 ZCP JB/PS & BLK Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (7)	what maps are you running? __________________ 11 E92 M3 DCT Jerez Black ZCP...Eisenmann, Dinan, Fabspeed, IND, LUX
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dirtmaster666 "J" BONE 38 Rep 578 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: edmonton iTrader: (0)	these areb 5-10 dic enabled __________________ procede v5 rev3, afe dual cone intake, full catless exhaust with muffler delete, hm style carbon fibre lip, 235/35/19,275/30/19 satin black linea corse818, H&R sport springs, Vishnu charge pipe with forged diverter valves, matte black kidneys, mtec superwhite angel eyes and fogs, bms cdv ER fmic, VRSF coated DP. Vishnu pwm meth kit
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dirtmaster666 "J" BONE 38 Rep 578 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: edmonton iTrader: (0)	???? __________________ procede v5 rev3, afe dual cone intake, full catless exhaust with muffler delete, hm style carbon fibre lip, 235/35/19,275/30/19 satin black linea corse818, H&R sport springs, Vishnu charge pipe with forged diverter valves, matte black kidneys, mtec superwhite angel eyes and fogs, bms cdv ER fmic, VRSF coated DP. Vishnu pwm meth kit
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dirtmaster666 "J" BONE 38 Rep 578 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: edmonton iTrader: (0)	any thoughts? __________________ procede v5 rev3, afe dual cone intake, full catless exhaust with muffler delete, hm style carbon fibre lip, 235/35/19,275/30/19 satin black linea corse818, H&R sport springs, Vishnu charge pipe with forged diverter valves, matte black kidneys, mtec superwhite angel eyes and fogs, bms cdv ER fmic, VRSF coated DP. Vishnu pwm meth kit
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dirtmaster666 "J" BONE 38 Rep 578 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: edmonton iTrader: (0)	Bump __________________ procede v5 rev3, afe dual cone intake, full catless exhaust with muffler delete, hm style carbon fibre lip, 235/35/19,275/30/19 satin black linea corse818, H&R sport springs, Vishnu charge pipe with forged diverter valves, matte black kidneys, mtec superwhite angel eyes and fogs, bms cdv ER fmic, VRSF coated DP. Vishnu pwm meth kit
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Elie335 ايلي ٣٣٥ هاهاها 90 Rep 1,448 Posts Drives: Vorsteiner e92 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Leb iTrader: (1)	your map is too aggressive on the fuel you are using, there's KNOCK and timing is low.... EDIT: your CAN throttle log is OK, that's not the reason you're KNOCKING __________________ Recent exterior modifications
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awd Private First Class 3 Rep 158 Posts Drives: 16 M4 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: vancouver wa iTrader: (0)	Email them to sales@vishnutuning.com. They will let you know.
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06-09-2011, 11:38 AM	#9
Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3475 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	Stick with low boost. Your throttle is fine. That is just a fluctuation in voltage or something which is normal. Your banks arent different its just that you put 2 banks in 1 graph and it scales the other up.
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06-09-2011, 11:46 AM	#10
themyst Major General 191 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	What gear was this pull? Your IATs are skyrocketing for a single gear pull. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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06-09-2011, 11:53 AM	#11
jdbretz Captain 54 Rep 923 Posts Drives: '18 X5d, '12 M3 ZCP, '12 F30 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FL Panhandle iTrader: (10)	The timing drops could be cause by a couple of things. I think some are caused by your IAT's shooting up. An upgraded FMIC would help with that. After your IAT raise above a certain temperature, the DME will begin running less aggressive timing to aid in the prevention of knock. With higher octane fuel or a FMIC your timing would look better at the same boost. Lower your boost to 13 and do a log and see how it looks. When you did your log, did you have DTC/DSC turned completely off (hold the DTC button for about 5 seconds)? If not do that for the next log just to confirm the throttle closures aren't caused by DTC.
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06-09-2011, 01:36 PM	#13
dirtmaster666 "J" BONE 38 Rep 578 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: edmonton iTrader: (0)	Ya dtc off and these 3rd gear to 4 pulls __________________ procede v5 rev3, afe dual cone intake, full catless exhaust with muffler delete, hm style carbon fibre lip, 235/35/19,275/30/19 satin black linea corse818, H&R sport springs, Vishnu charge pipe with forged diverter valves, matte black kidneys, mtec superwhite angel eyes and fogs, bms cdv ER fmic, VRSF coated DP. Vishnu pwm meth kit
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06-09-2011, 02:21 PM	#14
jdbretz Captain 54 Rep 923 Posts Drives: '18 X5d, '12 M3 ZCP, '12 F30 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FL Panhandle iTrader: (10)	Did you do back to back logs? The stock FMIC becomes heat soaked quickly and could be why your IAT's are rising so quickly although its not known for it's cooling ability above stock boost levels. On your next log, log the "Throttle" channel and overlay it with the CAN DBW Throttle. That will help us see whether the throttle closures correlates to the actual throttle pedel. Also drop the boost to 13 and see how your timing looks.
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