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      06-13-2011, 10:17 AM   #1
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The Money Sink

Does anyone else feel like these cars are a money sink?

i have some seriously expensive interests but nothing compares to the investment and lack of retained value as anything BMW orientated

I wanted to upgrade my wheels to some 19" 313's but at £1822 + Tyres its £2600

I found an offer at £2250 but they come with RFT's and i really dont want any more RFT's (offer now sold out anyway)

Then i checked out what a set of fully refurbed MV3's are going for and people are giving them away at between £400-£600 with £800 worth of "Nearly new" tyres on them, work that out....

So without tyres i would have to be giving them away???

Why didnt the idiot salesman put 19" wheels on my car when ordering the demo to the dealership for the extra £600!

Then i looked into some better front brakes....

then i give up

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      06-13-2011, 10:39 AM   #2
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There is someone on here with a set to sell and wants a set of wheels to trade in so you might get a deal there.
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      06-13-2011, 10:47 AM   #3
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There is someone on here with a set to sell and wants a set of wheels to trade in so you might get a deal there.
i have looked into it but it works out at about £1250 plus refurb on mv3 plus giving away the mv3 wheels which is near the £2000 mark for used wheels and tyres.

i can get a set of brand new 269 Performance with new RFT for 2150.

so its not much of a deal.
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      06-13-2011, 10:52 AM   #4
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Yep- It cost me £2600 for Genuine CSL wheels and new conti's. I did get about £950 back on my originals. Nice things are expensive.
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      06-13-2011, 10:56 AM   #5
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Yep- It cost me £2600 for Genuine CSL wheels and new conti's. I did get about £950 back on my originals. Nice things are expensive.
getting £950 back on your wheels isnt bad really, id be more than happy with that but people are literally giving away MV3's it seems which makes buying the new ones hard to stomach.

Lets face it the new wheels wont really add any value to the car when its time to sell either i think...

the other option is to go for 18" 313 wheels which are only £1222 and i can use my current tyres... then see what the MV3 alloys go for on ebay
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      06-13-2011, 11:08 AM   #6
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getting £950 back on your wheels isnt bad really, id be more than happy with that but people are literally giving away MV3's it seems which makes buying the new ones hard to stomach.

Lets face it the new wheels wont really add any value to the car when its time to sell either i think...

the other option is to go for 18" 313 wheels which are only £1222 and i can use my current tyres... then see what the MV3 alloys go for on ebay
It is a tough call. depends on how bad you want them, If at all possible stretch for the wheels you want, otherwise you'll be always thinking " I should have got the 19's"
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      06-13-2011, 11:12 AM   #7
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It is a tough call. depends on how bad you want them, If at all possible stretch for the wheels you want, otherwise you'll be always thinking " I should have got the 19's"
Well i wouldnt mind the 18" performance since good tyres are £550 a set and the ride is better. also i checked the US BMW site and they look good in both 18 and 19"

Also its not so much a blow to buy new wheels and tyres all in 1 go!
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Well i wouldnt mind the 18" performance since good tyres are £550 a set and the ride is better. also i checked the US BMW site and they look good in both 18 and 19"

Also its not so much a blow to buy new wheels and tyres all in 1 go!

Have you considered Falkens? I bought a set of 19's for £506. fitted
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      06-13-2011, 11:26 AM   #9
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I don't think it's just BMW's mate - all premium brand cars are expensive to maintain..or upgrade, in your case. I love the 313 alloys - but I wouldn't dare spend that sore of money on some wheels - a) because the wife would make me sleep in the darn thing and b) you could buy a little run around for that sort of money (if you wanted)
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      06-13-2011, 11:35 AM   #10
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Have you considered Falkens? I bought a set of 19's for £506. fitted
i think my brain tells me £2300 for wheels and tyres is mental

i just feel ill when i think of the money haha.

and i have spent this kind of money on a regular basis before on other fads like computers and and rifles and other crazy stuff.

its just that in my mind i know that they arent worth it!
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      06-13-2011, 05:51 PM   #11
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nothing compares to the investment and lack of retained value as anything BMW orientated
You don't have a wife then?
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You don't have a wife then?
Or kiddies !
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      06-13-2011, 06:17 PM   #13
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You don't have a wife then?
Lol, no but the gf works full time so shes got her own money

for now anyway...
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i think my brain tells me £2300 for wheels and tyres is mental
OE wheels are always pricey (and they're only 'cheap' cast wheels), just be thankful you don't want some nice forged wheels (rays etc) - then you'd be looking at 4/5/6+ grand plus tyres easy.

You can get some great copy wheels for 500quid or so for 4x staggered 19s from places like bmautosport.

PS i'd keep your MV3 for winter tyre use and to sell on the car at trade in time, they're worth peanuts now as so many are on the used market.

Always best to sell the car with original wheels on IMO, you'll get more back for your aftermarket rims separately
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OE wheels are always pricey (and they're only 'cheap' cast wheels), just be thankful you don't want some nice forged wheels (rays etc) - then you'd be looking at 4/5/6+ grand plus tyres easy.

You can get some great copy wheels for 500quid or so for 4x staggered 19s from places like bmautosport.

PS i'd keep your MV3 for winter tyre use and to sell on the car at trade in time, they're worth peanuts now as so many are on the used market.

Always best to sell the car with original wheels on IMO, you'll get more back for your aftermarket rims separately
Yes this had crossed my mind, the replica wheels are a whole other story... As much as i like the idea of £500-£600 wheels something doesnt sit right with me. if they maybe made some replica 313's then maybe that would tempt me.
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Its only a matter of time.

18" 313 reps £399 for 4. (solid antracite)

http://www.bmautosport.co.uk/detail.php?siteid=2080


PS I bought rep MV3s for my winters, £300 for 4. They are NICER looking than the OE ones, better colour (brighter silver) and have weathered perfectly, not a mark after 2 winters.
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      06-14-2011, 06:46 AM   #19
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Why didn't you just buy one with 19" in the first place!?
they had not been around long when i bought mine in 07, plus i was 22 at the time and 27k for a demo car was a lot of money at that age!

Plus i tricked the dealer into matching a 7 month old car price when he wanted £30,500 for this demo as my spec was quite high on this car, 35k+ list price.

demo was 2 months old and 1500 miles and i got it for 27k but it only come with 18" wheels and the 19" ones were not that great imo, nothing like the 313 wheels in terms of desirability.

Its easy to put 19" performance wheels on a car if your one of the people who picked up a 3-4 yr old car for the price of a focus

But when you have ploughed in probably 35k+ over 4 yrs and then these new fangled wheels come out that you MUST have

its hard to drop £2600 to upgrade them.

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its hard to drop £2600 to upgrade them.

Nah it ain't, you're along time dead
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http://www.vortextuning.com/bmw/3-se...t-black-3.html

Can these be had in the UK to fit E92?
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