[dyezak]

So for testing purposes I removed my Cobb, and put in a Procede v5 tonight. Tomorrow I will be heading to the track to see what the change did to my performance. On the Cobb I ran four 12.44's all at 111mph (across a temperature spread of 15deg). Since it was so consistent I will know that any change to that time I see tomorrow night will be directly related to the Procede.

If the Procede yields better 1/4mi times, I will follow up with a trip to Cobb's dyno. I put down 334hp/394tq on the Cobb...

You have 24hr's to place your bets on what will happen

[TT3 iN NyC]

My vote goes to the PROcede

[Infamous]

enthusiast procede or professional? and what software version?

[tibra1]

Great that you brought up consistentency in runs..this test ..u will be able to see which has the ability to repeat the power consistently

[dyezak]

Enthusiast v5 maps 1-24

[supracg]

If your running more boost with the PROcede I would say PROcede ofcourse haha, you seem to have the mods needed to run the stage 2 cobb is coming out with soon

[dyezak]

Originally Posted by supracg

If your running more boost with the PROcede I would say PROcede ofcourse haha, you seem to have the mods needed to run the stage 2 cobb is coming out with soon

Soon is end of Summer...or around September. It took them 3mo to get 2007 maps done. They just came out of beta. I would expect the same time frame for Stage 2...so sometime in September. Then another 3mo for Access Tuner (which is what I really want).

I'm not getting rid of the Cobb...I'll keep it till they release ATR and I'll have them pro-tune my car then sell the Procede (if Cobb's professional tune makes more power than the Procede).

[Infamous]

you should plug the procede into your computer and either upgrade the maps or change the boost numbers a little higher, that's where you'll really see a difference.

out of the box, i think the enthusiast only has map 1 with boost set to around 13.5 psi, which doesn't take advantage of all the boltons on your car. you'd definitely be ok bumping it up

[acdHQK713K]

What are you trying to compare again?

Minutiae aside, the tune with the highest average boost will run faster and dyno higher.

[secretsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Stangorang

What are you trying to compare again?

Minutiae aside, the tune with the highest average boost will run faster and dyno higher.

Its going to be close to 100 in Dallas tomorrow, again.
Depending on your boost, the Procede might lower your boost slightly (because of the heat) while the Cobb might raise it (because of it). This might turn into a debate of the merits of safety vs consistency.

[dyezak]

Originally Posted by Infamous

you should plug the procede into your computer and either upgrade the maps or change the boost numbers a little higher, that's where you'll really see a difference.

out of the box, i think the enthusiast only has map 1 with boost set to around 13.5 psi, which doesn't take advantage of all the boltons on your car. you'd definitely be ok bumping it up

It actually starts at 12psi. But it doesn't matter, autotune will bump it up. It just takes a few learning runs.

[dzenno]

Turn boost up to 20psi and run ms109...with a good launch you should be in 11s if you're 6AT..more boost, more power, higher trap speed...don't run autotune at the track unless you'll run pump gas...on race gas you have full freedom to go up to 20psi, all out, you have downpipes and the FMIC, you'll be just fine

[Infamous]

Originally Posted by dyezak

It actually starts at 12psi. But it doesn't matter, autotune will bump it up. It just takes a few learning runs.

The factory settings for max boost on map one are pretty low. just wanted to give you a heads up, you'll have more fun either buying the procede cable or buying a beer for someone local who has it.

[mithiral67]

Learning runs or timing drop ceilings. 113 at 12.2

[Brey335i]

Originally Posted by dzenno

Turn boost up to 20psi and run ms109...with a good launch you should be in 11s if you're 6AT..more boost, more power, higher trap speed...don't run autotune at the track unless you'll run pump gas...on race gas you have full freedom to go up to 20psi, all out, you have downpipes and the FMIC, you'll be just fine

I wouldn't recommend running 20 psi to anyone. Never close to that high without meth injection



I'm gonna guess 12.6 @ 111

[**335i**]

Originally Posted by Brey335i

I wouldn't recommend running 20 psi to anyone. Never close to that high without meth injection



I'm gonna guess 12.6 @ 111

so 19 psi max with stock turbos and fbo no meth is okay? or 18 psi safest

[TurboBimmer]

Originally Posted by **335i**

so 19 psi max with stock turbos and fbo no meth is okay? or 18 psi safest

19psi is for use with race gas!! With pump fuel 93 oct (Euro 98) and no meth you better stay within 16psi max...

[**335i**]

Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

19psi is for use with race gas!! With pump fuel 93 oct (Euro 98) and no meth you better stay within 16psi max...

noob question>>>100 octane Shell if i am going to use what psi i can use max 19 psi ?

[TurboBimmer]

Originally Posted by **335i**

noob question>>>100 octane Shell if i am going to use what psi i can use max 19 psi ?

If you want to blow up your engine, yes...

100 oct shell in europe = 94 oct in the US.

Don't go beyond 16psi without meth.

[**335i**]

Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

If you want to blow up your engine, yes...

100 oct shell in europe = 94 oct in the US.

Don't go beyond 16psi without meth.

dont want to blow engine so far my max boost was 15 psi with v5+bms dci, now installed ic so rise to 16 psi ut 40 and ic 50

[MKE_M3]

I think that unless you can verify same peak boost level, your test will not prove anything at all. I have seen a few logs that show Cobb pushing very high boost levels. As someone already mentioned, I believe Cobb targets load, not boost, and proceed trims boost when IAT are high. On a hod day, Cobb may actually increase boost while proceed lowers it. THis could matter a lot from a safety perspective, so be ready to put your flame suit on when you post your results if you don't have datalogs and a record of boost levels from your two runs.

[themyst]

My god so many idiots.

OP, assuming the Procede is run in the same conditions as the AP stage 1, all things equal, you will run far worse with the Procede on default map settings. I suspect about 2-3 mph slower. Same goes for the jb4, but surprisingly not the jb3. There is a reason behind why people claim the jb3 feels faster and it's not placebo.