Got my car back from the dealer for HPFuel Pump problems today

ironic · 04-07-2007, 03:40 AM

It's about 12:33am now. I got my car back around 3:30 today, 4 days after I brought it in on Monday. The dealer, following the service bulletin, installed Progman 3.0.0.2 I believe tested for an error code again and didn't get it again. At the dealership I fired it up a couple of times and the car started right up. After I got home and swapped out my rims, however, the car failed to turn over - it was about 8 cranks or so followed by a restart on my part at which point it fired up on about the 4th crank. A couple hours later I tried to start it in my garage to see if it was still having problems and I still had extended crank problems - i'd say the 6th time it turned over. Still a couple hours after I drove the car to get some dessert and the car turned over on its 2nd try.

I don't think the car's fuel pump problems have been fixed, but I don't understand how the bmw dealership didn't see any faults after doing the software update and test driving it. I also don't get why it's such an intermitten problem. At the dealership it turned over perfectly on the first crank.

I'll most likely bring the car in again on Monday after I let my service advisor know.

Walked U · 04-07-2007, 03:58 AM

It seems like bmw has been turning their heads in the other direction when it comes to fuel pump problems.

Most of us already know the symptoms of a faulty fuel pump. But it seems like bmw rather try to fix something else.

j|rz44 · 04-07-2007, 04:54 AM

All i can say is LMFAO.....
Lotz of high rollers here im sure... But you gotta be the Lamest!
and thats not haten... thats me LMFAO!

thealbert · 04-07-2007, 05:58 AM

ironic: Did they actually change the pump for you or did they just reprogram your car?

ArmyBimmerDude · 04-07-2007, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by B-Rad ///PWNS U, Maliboo!

Hate. like I dont know callin me lame is hatin. Haha. You be LYAO while I be eatin caviar wit 2 fine bitches callin'n me daddy & watin fo the sun 2 come up on the Boo... I'm outta this hate house. We needs a froum fo playas like M//_owns_you an me and those who come correct an aint tryin to tape up they car to make a BOV noise.. and cryin bout they lease pay, and steady hatin on peeps just to hate. You whack ass hobos needs to chill while the OC playas talk shop bout how to get shit rite on they 335. Haha, I'm LMAO at you fo bein' teh down lo brothas you is.

gonzo · 04-07-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by B-Rad ///PWNS U, Maliboo!

Hate. like I dont know callin me lame is hatin. Haha. You be LYAO while I be eatin caviar wit 2 fine bitches callin'n me daddy & watin fo the sun 2 come up on the Boo... I'm outta this hate house. We needs a froum fo playas like M//_owns_you an me and those who come correct an aint tryin to tape up they car to make a BOV noise.. and cryin bout they lease pay, and steady hatin on peeps just to hate. You whack ass hobos needs to chill while the OC playas talk shop bout how to get shit rite on they 335. Haha, I'm LMAO at you fo bein' teh down lo brothas you is.

Good lord....American youth at it's finest.

zenmaster · 04-07-2007, 09:53 AM

Just announced: BMW offers hip-hop ebonics PROGMAN update for iDrive.
DRIVER: where all da biatchez be at? CAR: damn playa! all you gotz to be doin iz roll on to da lef and be goin one block! wut wut!

RiXst3r · 04-07-2007, 09:53 AM

A software update can not fix a part that needs to be replaced!!!!!!! stupid bmw

ADHD · 04-07-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by B-Rad ///PWNS U, Maliboo!

Hate. like I dont know callin me lame is hatin. Haha. You be LYAO while I be eatin caviar wit 2 fine bitches callin'n me daddy & watin fo the sun 2 come up on the Boo... I'm outta this hate house. We needs a froum fo playas like M//_owns_you an me and those who come correct an aint tryin to tape up they car to make a BOV noise.. and cryin bout they lease pay, and steady hatin on peeps just to hate. You whack ass hobos needs to chill while the OC playas talk shop bout how to get shit rite on they 335. Haha, I'm LMAO at you fo bein' teh down lo brothas you is.

DUDE ARE U FOR REAL??????

CUASE B-RAD WAS A JOKE IN A MOVIE!!

WOW im LMAO over here,, are u sure u didnt have too many

tonight!!

PIMP "E" · 04-07-2007, 10:21 AM

lol lol lol lol. hey B-rad they be haten' on you fo realz. why you guys hating on B-rads?????????
lol

Dr_Dirt · 04-07-2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PIMP "E"

lol lol lol lol. hey B-rad they be haten' on you fo realz. why you guys hating on B-rads?????????
lol

Did you try to read Brad's message? The poor boy has the worst speech impediment I have ever seen. lol

redlinejunkie · 04-07-2007, 11:08 AM

i dont wanna sound stupid but, it seems like the only thing you changed is the rims. Just for the hell of it, put those rims back on and see if fires up in the first try. I know 4 rims should have nothing to do with a fuel pump failure, but it just does not make sense.

The car was starting without a problem many times over and over, again and again. You come home, swap the rims, and now it has a starting problem. It seems like the only variable is the rims. Try it, what you gonna loose. Truthfully, i hope it doesnt still start with the original rims, and this rim theory goes to garbage.

sflgator · 04-07-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by zenmaster

Just announced: BMW offers hip-hop ebonics PROGMAN update for iDrive.
DRIVER: where all da biatchez be at? CAR: damn playa! all you gotz to be doin iz roll on to da lef and be goin one block! wut wut!

sflgator · 04-07-2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-Rad ///PWNS U, Maliboo!

Hate. like I dont know callin me lame is hatin. Haha. You be LYAO while I be eatin caviar wit 2 fine bitches callin'n me daddy & watin fo the sun 2 come up on the Boo... I'm outta this hate house. We needs a froum fo playas like M//_owns_you an me and those who come correct an aint tryin to tape up they car to make a BOV noise.. and cryin bout they lease pay, and steady hatin on peeps just to hate. You whack ass hobos needs to chill while the OC playas talk shop bout how to get shit rite on they 335. Haha, I'm LMAO at you fo bein' teh down lo brothas you is.

This has all got to be a joke, right?

Hey, I know that Eminem and some others have made millions upon millions with all that sh!t, but for the most part, it's hard to be taken seriously unless you can speak like you at least have a high school (if not college) education.

redlinejunkie · 04-07-2007, 11:17 AM

here is what i am thinking. When they install a new software at the dealership, and you drove from there to home. I dont know how long of a drive it was. But regardless, computer had to store some data during the run generated by the original size tire and rim combo. MAy be some of this info is also used to start the car or run the car properly. Then you went home and swap the rims, and these rims are most likely generating different information thats not matching the what the computer stored previously. So it may cause the start problem.

Its like when you change to a different size tire and wheel your ABS never operates like it used to with the original sizes. Sometimes it comes on ealier tha before or later than before.

Terry335 · 04-07-2007, 12:02 PM

Dealer mechanics are mostly idiots...

purplewidow · 04-07-2007, 12:03 PM

this seems to be the only registered problem on the 335!!! you would think after being out for 6 months they would have figured out the problem!!! i am extremly dissapointed in them for how they (esp BMWNA) have treated this problem and the oil cooler issue!!

and as for GHETTO boy...seriously do you talk like that?!?!?! i am no old man for sure i am in my mid lat 20's and damn...try to get a job for a respectable company doing REAL work not just at Macdonald's or the local chicken and rib joint!!!! people wonder why they don't get respect for ebonix and that is b/c it is a language for people who cannot spell or had proper education so maybe you are not to blame your school system is!?!? at least if i talked like that i would make an excuse cause i would be embarrassed as all hell!!! and if you need your mom to strike legal action your the biggest loser on the planet!!!! she bought you a 335 and you talk like that...bro sounds like you need some education and tons o $$$ to be a producer not talk like someone named after a bag of candy!!!! you need $$$$ and respect to be a producer which if your mommy is buying you your 335 you obviously have neither!!! so yeah people are gonna be hatin!!! at least you have respect for your mom!!! oh and we all understand how you roll....classless
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David 12 · 04-07-2007, 12:12 PM

"I know that Eminem and some others have made millions upon millions with all that sh!t, but for the most part, it's hard to be taken seriously unless you can speak like you at least have a high school (if not college) education."

sflgator, don't be fooled by the post!! Has anyone heard from Teknochild in a while???

sflgator · 04-07-2007, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David 12

"I know that Eminem and some others have made millions upon millions with all that sh!t, but for the most part, it's hard to be taken seriously unless you can speak like you at least have a high school (if not college) education."

sflgator, don't be fooled by the post!! Has anyone heard from Teknochild in a while???

Good point.

itsbrokeagain · 04-07-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry Burger

Dealer mechanics are mostly idiots...

I take offense to that. I think that most of us in my facility are pretty damned good. What we say and what comes out of your SAs mouth can be two different things unfortunatley. Most of us do sidework on BMWs, so us being idiots wouldnt help would it?

In relation to the cause, a PROGman update will not fix a pump. That dealer is an asshat.

itsbrokeagain · 04-07-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by purplewidow

this seems to be the only registered problem on the 335!!! you would think after being out for 6 months they would have figured out the problem!!! i am extremly dissapointed in them for how they (esp BMWNA) have treated this problem and the oil cooler issue!!

do you realize they never came out with a fix for the E46 window motors breaking and jamming up? That car was out for 5 years. I still fix the window assemblies every week. Its going to be sometime before they address this.

ironic · 04-07-2007, 01:43 PM

the theory about the wheels is might have something to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me and I've been experiencing problems before even with stock wheels. I'll bring the car in to the dealer with the rims on monday and see what they say. if the car can only be driven with stock rims i'm buying another car lol. no joke.

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ironic Major General 269 Rep 8,338 Posts Drives: Jet Black 335i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Francisco, Ca iTrader: (22)	Got my car back from the dealer for HPFuel Pump problems today It's about 12:33am now. I got my car back around 3:30 today, 4 days after I brought it in on Monday. The dealer, following the service bulletin, installed Progman 3.0.0.2 I believe tested for an error code again and didn't get it again. At the dealership I fired it up a couple of times and the car started right up. After I got home and swapped out my rims, however, the car failed to turn over - it was about 8 cranks or so followed by a restart on my part at which point it fired up on about the 4th crank. A couple hours later I tried to start it in my garage to see if it was still having problems and I still had extended crank problems - i'd say the 6th time it turned over. Still a couple hours after I drove the car to get some dessert and the car turned over on its 2nd try. I don't think the car's fuel pump problems have been fixed, but I don't understand how the bmw dealership didn't see any faults after doing the software update and test driving it. I also don't get why it's such an intermitten problem. At the dealership it turned over perfectly on the first crank. I'll most likely bring the car in again on Monday after I let my service advisor know. __________________ Widebody 335i Project Car BUILD \| PHOTOSHOOT
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redlinejunkie Private 4 Rep 64 Posts Drives: 335 coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: ohio iTrader: (0)	i dont wanna sound stupid but, it seems like the only thing you changed is the rims. Just for the hell of it, put those rims back on and see if fires up in the first try. I know 4 rims should have nothing to do with a fuel pump failure, but it just does not make sense. The car was starting without a problem many times over and over, again and again. You come home, swap the rims, and now it has a starting problem. It seems like the only variable is the rims. Try it, what you gonna loose. Truthfully, i hope it doesnt still start with the original rims, and this rim theory goes to garbage.
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redlinejunkie Private 4 Rep 64 Posts Drives: 335 coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: ohio iTrader: (0)	here is what i am thinking. When they install a new software at the dealership, and you drove from there to home. I dont know how long of a drive it was. But regardless, computer had to store some data during the run generated by the original size tire and rim combo. MAy be some of this info is also used to start the car or run the car properly. Then you went home and swap the rims, and these rims are most likely generating different information thats not matching the what the computer stored previously. So it may cause the start problem. Its like when you change to a different size tire and wheel your ABS never operates like it used to with the original sizes. Sometimes it comes on ealier tha before or later than before.
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purplewidow Lieutenant Colonel 51 Rep 1,928 Posts Drives: e92 335 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	this seems to be the only registered problem on the 335!!! you would think after being out for 6 months they would have figured out the problem!!! i am extremly dissapointed in them for how they (esp BMWNA) have treated this problem and the oil cooler issue!! and as for GHETTO boy...seriously do you talk like that?!?!?! i am no old man for sure i am in my mid lat 20's and damn...try to get a job for a respectable company doing REAL work not just at Macdonald's or the local chicken and rib joint!!!! people wonder why they don't get respect for ebonix and that is b/c it is a language for people who cannot spell or had proper education so maybe you are not to blame your school system is!?!? at least if i talked like that i would make an excuse cause i would be embarrassed as all hell!!! and if you need your mom to strike legal action your the biggest loser on the planet!!!! she bought you a 335 and you talk like that...bro sounds like you need some education and tons o $$$ to be a producer not talk like someone named after a bag of candy!!!! you need $$$$ and respect to be a producer which if your mommy is buying you your 335 you obviously have neither!!! so yeah people are gonna be hatin!!! at least you have respect for your mom!!! oh and we all understand how you roll....classless ________ Body Science Last edited by purplewidow; 03-29-2011 at 08:51 PM..
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ironic Major General 269 Rep 8,338 Posts Drives: Jet Black 335i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Francisco, Ca iTrader: (22)	the theory about the wheels is might have something to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me and I've been experiencing problems before even with stock wheels. I'll bring the car in to the dealer with the rims on monday and see what they say. if the car can only be driven with stock rims i'm buying another car lol. no joke. __________________ Widebody 335i Project Car BUILD \| PHOTOSHOOT
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