RD Sport Xede Dyno vs Procede

SfValley335i · 04-19-2007, 05:36 PM

Taken from SoCal E90 forum:
http://www.socale90.com/forums/showt...=1020#post1020

RD Sport Dyno:

(assuming its stock without exhaust)

Here is an older Procede Dyno from:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30027

sflgator · 04-19-2007, 05:44 PM

Huh? That XEDE dyno from Shiv was his first version of the XEDE (not PROCede btw) more than 7 months ago.

Numerous and more recent PROcede dynos show a typical +55+HP and +80+ RWTQ.

FWIW -- My dyno (when Shiv intstalled my XEDE in Dec., '06) was +57WHP and +92 lb.-ft. RWTQ; the PROcede adds even more power.

sstarch1 · 04-19-2007, 05:47 PM

Yeah....what is this BS?

Dustin Bramell · 04-19-2007, 05:50 PM

All the Procede cars are making in the 370 to 380ftlb range, and 325 to 330WHP on the Modacar dynojet. Lets compare apples to apples.

Terry335 · 04-19-2007, 05:51 PM

I'm having a hard time making sense of this but I think they are saying the top graph shows the PROCede in red and the RD/XEDE in blue. The PROCede car appears to be making around 14psi and the RD/XEDE car appears to be making 12psi. The point is the PROCede makes more boost than they claim?

The bottom graph is to show where the XEDE was when Shiv was working with it months ago.

(shrug)

PS. Based on the top graph if I had to pick I'd prefer the red.

SfValley335i · 04-19-2007, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sstarch1

Yeah....what is this BS?

Good question... I just saw it on another forum and posted it here...

bmwzimmer · 04-19-2007, 06:05 PM

That is VERY MISLEADING INFORMATION.

SfValley335i · 04-19-2007, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Burger

I'm having a hard time making sense of this but I think they are saying the top graph shows the PROCede in red and the RD/XEDE in blue. The PROCede car appears to be making around 14psi and the RD/XEDE car appears to be making 12psi. The point is the PROCede makes more boost than they claim?

The bottom graph is to show where the XEDE was when Shiv was working with it months ago.

(shrug)

PS. Based on the top graph if I had to pick I'd prefer the red.

Terry I think you hit it right on the spot. Thats what it seems like the poster from Autotalent is pointing out. That the Procede is actually pushing 14psi when they claim only 2psi above stock.

Either way, the dyno shows how RD sports xede performs for those that are thinking of purchasing it.

ADHD · 04-19-2007, 06:18 PM

why dont u copy paste my explanation as well it explains it!!

SfValley335i · 04-19-2007, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADHD

why dont u copy paste my explanation as well it explains it!!

Sorry just read your reply... usually the Original poster explains everything....

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADHD from SoCalE90

To help make that all a bit more clearer for everyone basically what Sams saying is:
the Rd sport box 1st run compared to vishnus 1st run Rd comes out on top.

RD FIRST RUN: 307.59hp @ 324.66lb tq.
Vishnu first run: 309.35hp @ 311.23lb tq.

RD sport box has not yet taken the time to alter other channels Im sure once he gets the car in hell have a new map made real soon.

The first Dyno is Sams car compared to my car exactly like he said Stock just the piggyback modules on both of our cars..
That dyno compares RD first run to Vishnus 1.2 map!!

The second Dyno shows vishnus first time tuning with the procede!

Terry335 · 04-19-2007, 06:29 PM

So is this a dyno without the fuel and timing being adjusted? Basically like the turbo-tuner?

SfValley335i · 04-19-2007, 06:32 PM

ADHD ^ is for you to answer since you know more about RD Sport xede than I do.

OpenFlash · 04-19-2007, 06:53 PM

My brain hurts. Is the red run the PROcede?

SfValley335i · 04-19-2007, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

My brain hurts.

would you like some daal? Im sure that would ease the tensions.

ADHD · 04-19-2007, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Burger

So is this a dyno without the fuel and timing being adjusted? Basically like the turbo-tuner?

No idea

all i know is i got my car dynoed there a while back and was told they had the Rd results in the computer so they compared my results to there results! OBVIUSLY my car was much stronger with the procede!!!
BUT autotalents saying this is there first RUN with it and IT should NOT be compared to the final and what is know known as procede and to compare it to that other dyno that shiv first posted back in the day when he first posted his first results! Know this is just what im told so I honestly have no idea beyond this!..According to zolti if he can alter other channels like shiv he thinks he can make just as much power he just needs the time!

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

My brain hurts.

lololol serious what is this the 4th box talked about today!!

OpenFlash · 04-19-2007, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADHD

No idea

all i know is i got my car dynoed there a while back and was told they had the Rd results in the computer so they compared my results to there results! OBVIUSLY my car was much stronger with the procede!!!
BUT autotalents saying this is there first RUN with it and IT should NOT be compared to the final and what is know known as procede and to compare it to that other dyno that shiv first posted back in the day when he first posted his first results! Know this is just what im told so I honestly have no idea beyond this!..According to zolti if he can alter other channels like shiv he thinks he can make just as much power he just needs the time!

lololol serious what is this the 4th box talked about today!!

Tell Zolti I said 'hi'. And ask him to shoot me another email if he needs help getting control of closed loop fueling. From the look of the AFR curve, there no fuel control yet.

shiv

j|rz44 · 04-19-2007, 07:19 PM

LMFAO! this has become so rediculous!
its starting to bother me now....

GL!

RiXst3r · 04-19-2007, 09:46 PM

so the RDsport XEDE gives a 3 (THREE??) horespower gain??

oh wait... thats not a stock vs. tuned? wtf is that? is that a BETA XEDE graph with super old(not even released) tuning from shiv's first attempts, compared to the RDsport box?

sflgator · 04-19-2007, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

My brain hurts. Is the red run the PROcede?

^^^^^ I like Shiv's response!!! LOL.

ADHD · 04-19-2007, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Tell Zolti I said 'hi'. And ask him to shoot me another email if he needs help getting control of closed loop fueling. From the look of the AFR curve, there no fuel control yet.

shiv

ya no clue this was about a month ago i was there so maybe know hes got the things going..
Yes your right he told me the boost was the only thiing he played with so far he did compare the AFR curve of mine to his and DAMB i must say u throw the fuel at it for sure!! so hes got something to work off but like he said its going to take time and he gives u full respect for already digging in!
I like to see u guys are friends and not hating on each other.
Zolti himself is a GREAT guy but the companies he works for I dont know them so i will not comment!!

04-19-2007, 05:36 PM	#1
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Dustin Bramell Lieutenant 44 Rep 428 Posts Drives: e90 335i, 125cc Trackmagic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Santa Monica, CA iTrader: (1)	All the Procede cars are making in the 370 to 380ftlb range, and 325 to 330WHP on the Modacar dynojet. Lets compare apples to apples.
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04-19-2007, 05:51 PM	#5
Terry335 Banned 104 Rep 2,587 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Socal iTrader: (0)	I'm having a hard time making sense of this but I think they are saying the top graph shows the PROCede in red and the RD/XEDE in blue. The PROCede car appears to be making around 14psi and the RD/XEDE car appears to be making 12psi. The point is the PROCede makes more boost than they claim? The bottom graph is to show where the XEDE was when Shiv was working with it months ago. (shrug) PS. Based on the top graph if I had to pick I'd prefer the red.
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Terry335 Banned 104 Rep 2,587 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Socal iTrader: (0)	So is this a dyno without the fuel and timing being adjusted? Basically like the turbo-tuner?
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SfValley335i Colonel 167 Rep 2,409 Posts Drives: Current:135i Sold:335i sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: City of Angels iTrader: (8)	ADHD ^ is for you to answer since you know more about RD Sport xede than I do.
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RiXst3r 288 Rep 6,510 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ohio iTrader: (14)	so the RDsport XEDE gives a 3 (THREE??) horespower gain?? oh wait... thats not a stock vs. tuned? wtf is that? is that a BETA XEDE graph with super old(not even released) tuning from shiv's first attempts, compared to the RDsport box?
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