New PROCEDE V5 DATALOG 7-29

FedeM · 08-23-2011, 08:16 PM

135i Stage3 FBO, sparks and injectors just changed, full tank of italian 100oct (= 93RON USA).

External temp: 22°C
Time: 01.40 GMT+1

NO Meth, NO Upgraded Turbos, No Nitro.

Enjoy:

The car literally takes off.

chrisw335i · 08-23-2011, 08:22 PM

not to shabby considering just pump gas!

FedeM · 08-23-2011, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisw335i

not to shabby considering just pump gas!

I'm only a little bit perplexed for timings in 4th gear (maybe a little bit lower??).

BTW the car is absolutely amazing. I've never heard something like this before. These autotuning maps are really awesome.

chrisw335i · 08-23-2011, 08:27 PM

yeah thats where the pump gas is showing its face..i would lower boost a lil bit and re-log..as the gears go up the load increases

cwn23 · 08-23-2011, 08:42 PM

Running a little too much boost for just pumped gas...turn it down a little my friend...Timing looks to flatline in 4th

FedeM · 08-23-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cwn23

Running a little too much boost for just pumped gas...turn it down a little my friend...Timing looks to flatline in 4th

Autotuning set it.
I'm running on ut50, maxb17.0, ic100, aggression target1.

Btw i think i'll turn it down by .5/.8 PSI.

cstmx_ryder · 08-23-2011, 10:34 PM

Ya, I think ~15-15.5 psi would be perfect, 17+ psi is for people running meth.....

Joshboody · 08-23-2011, 10:53 PM

max boost is set to 18psi right? I'm maxing my autotune settings also... i think there needs to be some revision to reduce the aggressiveness of these autotune maps.

themyst · 08-23-2011, 10:56 PM

looks like you are bitten by the post-shift timing issue as many of us are on Procede. The curious thing is you have a manual. Here's a datalog of my car flatlining going into 4th. I guess Shiv didn't really fix it.

Joshboody · 08-23-2011, 11:01 PM

18psi, 93oct, and NO meth is very aggresive. Myst your were at 18psi with meth... i think these are different issues.

OP, do you have the latest software with a squiggly car... what... in the dash with dtc pressed?

themyst · 08-23-2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshboody

18psi, 93oct, and NO meth is very aggresive. Myst your were at 18psi with meth... i think these are different issues.

OP, do you have the latest software with a squiggly car... what... in the dash with dtc pressed?

bs, it happens to non-meth people and meth people alike. Don't buy that bs Shiv feeds you about the fact I have a PPS kit which he inevitably will do any second now. FYI, his "superior" PWM meth kit sprays at full duty through the shift as a PPS kit does on an automatic so its a moot point regardless. It's DME software related, plain and simple.

If my "inferior" meth kit wasn't working properly, would you not see knock in 3rd gear when timing is as expected?

On a separate note, I had similar timing issues going into 4th and 5th on the JB4 as well, but it actually recovered somewhat, unlike the Procede which simply flatlines.

OpenFlash · 08-24-2011, 01:54 AM

OP-- Definitely a bit aggressive for pump gas only. You will also notice that DME timing targets drop as IATs go above 45 deg C. By 50 deg C, they are a good 4-5 deg lower than what you see with more moderate temps. If you run a good meth system, you'd see consistent IATs, consistent fuel trims and very consistent timing values regardless of gear, post-shift or otherwise.

shiv

enrita · 08-24-2011, 03:19 AM

100 octane EU is 95 octane US.

theworm · 08-24-2011, 04:39 AM

I have been mailing logs back and forth with Shiv, and Autotune is beta and for me (tune+dci) it were too aggresive, had to disable it.

secretsquirrel · 08-24-2011, 08:22 AM

I'd probably turn my max boost to 16 and turn my aggression level to 2.

FedeM · 08-24-2011, 08:53 AM

I was running on:
- Start Boost 50
- IC 100
- Max Boost 17.0psi
- Aggression Target 1

Now i've drop UT to 45.

Big Tom · 08-24-2011, 11:55 AM

Here's my happy timing curve through 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear with my CM Basic Meth Kit and pump gas

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drewmeyer87 · 08-25-2011, 03:03 PM

This is my datalog on the 7-29 BETA. 3rd-4th Gear Pull.

I am running Procede + DCI with Auto-Tuning enabled. I have Start Boost @ 35%, Max Boost @ 15PSI, IC @ 100%, Aggression @ 1

Thoughts?

cwn23 · 08-25-2011, 03:08 PM

Timing doesn't look all that great...Need to drop boost down as it seems it maybe too much for you car, or else you have very poor quality gas

drewmeyer87 · 08-25-2011, 03:20 PM

I was thinking the same thing, I use Chevron 91 pump gas down here in San Diego. Even if I add the NOS w/MMT Octane boost, it doesn't improve things much even at these stock map settings.

My car seems jittery after shifts and I was wondering if I was suffering from the same post-shift timing issues as others, it seems mine recovers though shorthly after the shift.

theworm · 08-25-2011, 03:24 PM

drewmeyer87, send your logs to Shiv. I sent mine, running procede+DCI and he needs to fix some on the autotuning (its still beta), its too aggressive for us guys w/o rest of the mods it seems.

secretsquirrel · 08-25-2011, 03:28 PM

I don't see any post shift timing issues, you're just trying to run too much boost for your octane. You should not be boosting in the 15's in summer on 91. Do you have any mods, if not, you prolly need to be around 13psi with 91.

08-23-2011, 08:16 PM	#1
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08-23-2011, 08:22 PM	#2
chrisw335i First Lieutenant 13 Rep 377 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Columbus, Ga. iTrader: (3)	not to shabby considering just pump gas! __________________ 2007 335i Coupe 6AT - Sports Package - Premium Package - Procede V5 Rev 2.5 - Vishnu PWM - Vishnu DCI - Vanguard Exhaust - AR Downpipes - Helix FMIC - 19" Avant Garde M6 Reps - Michelin Pilot Super Sports - Bilstein PSS10 - M3 Suspension Bits - M3 Sway - M3 Strut Brace - GP Thunder -Forge DV -15% Tint - Aero Lip
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08-23-2011, 08:27 PM	#4
chrisw335i First Lieutenant 13 Rep 377 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Columbus, Ga. iTrader: (3)	yeah thats where the pump gas is showing its face..i would lower boost a lil bit and re-log..as the gears go up the load increases __________________ 2007 335i Coupe 6AT - Sports Package - Premium Package - Procede V5 Rev 2.5 - Vishnu PWM - Vishnu DCI - Vanguard Exhaust - AR Downpipes - Helix FMIC - 19" Avant Garde M6 Reps - Michelin Pilot Super Sports - Bilstein PSS10 - M3 Suspension Bits - M3 Sway - M3 Strut Brace - GP Thunder -Forge DV -15% Tint - Aero Lip
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08-23-2011, 08:42 PM	#5
cwn23 Major 23 Rep 1,142 Posts Drives: E92 Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Running a little too much boost for just pumped gas...turn it down a little my friend...Timing looks to flatline in 4th
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08-23-2011, 10:34 PM	#7
cstmx_ryder Colonel 171 Rep 2,875 Posts Drives: A metal box with a roundel Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (2)	Ya, I think ~15-15.5 psi would be perfect, 17+ psi is for people running meth..... __________________ '08 AW E90 335i PROcede V5 \| BMS DCI \| RR DPs \| ETS FMIC \| FORGE DVs \| Stett CP \| Vanguard \| PSS10
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08-23-2011, 10:53 PM	#8
Joshboody Lieutenant Colonel 66 Rep 1,708 Posts Drives: pickemuptruck Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ iTrader: (7)	max boost is set to 18psi right? I'm maxing my autotune settings also... i think there needs to be some revision to reduce the aggressiveness of these autotune maps.
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08-23-2011, 10:56 PM	#9
themyst Major General 189 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	looks like you are bitten by the post-shift timing issue as many of us are on Procede. The curious thing is you have a manual. Here's a datalog of my car flatlining going into 4th. I guess Shiv didn't really fix it. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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08-23-2011, 11:01 PM	#10
Joshboody Lieutenant Colonel 66 Rep 1,708 Posts Drives: pickemuptruck Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ iTrader: (7)	18psi, 93oct, and NO meth is very aggresive. Myst your were at 18psi with meth... i think these are different issues. OP, do you have the latest software with a squiggly car... what... in the dash with dtc pressed?
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08-24-2011, 01:54 AM	#12
OpenFlash 1784 Rep 17,960 Posts Drives: A Lot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 Ducati Panigal ... [0.00] 2016 Mazda CX5 [0.00] 2017 Aprilia Tuono ... [0.00] 2019 BMW M2 Competi ... [0.00] 2015 BMW M5 Competi ... [10.00] 2016 Ducati XDiavel S [0.00] 2016 AMG GT S [0.00] 2011 Ferrari 458 It ... [0.00] 2017 Charger Hellcat [0.00] 2015 KTM Super Duke ... [0.00] 2016 KTM RC390 [0.00]	OP-- Definitely a bit aggressive for pump gas only. You will also notice that DME timing targets drop as IATs go above 45 deg C. By 50 deg C, they are a good 4-5 deg lower than what you see with more moderate temps. If you run a good meth system, you'd see consistent IATs, consistent fuel trims and very consistent timing values regardless of gear, post-shift or otherwise. shiv Last edited by OpenFlash; 08-24-2011 at 02:00 AM..
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08-24-2011, 03:19 AM	#13
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	100 octane EU is 95 octane US. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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08-24-2011, 04:39 AM	#14
theworm Enlisted Member 0 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 335i, PROcede v5 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sweden iTrader: (0)	I have been mailing logs back and forth with Shiv, and Autotune is beta and for me (tune+dci) it were too aggresive, had to disable it.
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08-24-2011, 08:22 AM	#15
secretsquirrel Colonel 155 Rep 2,326 Posts Drives: f80 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Far North Dallas iTrader: (2)	I'd probably turn my max boost to 16 and turn my aggression level to 2.
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08-24-2011, 08:53 AM	#16
FedeM Made in Italy 32 Rep 287 Posts Drives: Former 135i Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: ZH, Switzerland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW 135i [7.40]	I was running on: - Start Boost 50 - IC 100 - Max Boost 17.0psi - Aggression Target 1 Now i've drop UT to 45.
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08-24-2011, 11:55 AM	#17
Big Tom Banned 58 Rep 1,054 Posts Drives: 335i n54 e92 MT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Västerås iTrader: (0)	Here's my happy timing curve through 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear with my CM Basic Meth Kit and pump gas : Last edited by Big Tom; 08-24-2011 at 12:11 PM..
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08-25-2011, 03:03 PM	#18
drewmeyer87 Chump 10 Rep 173 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (2)	This is my datalog on the 7-29 BETA. 3rd-4th Gear Pull. I am running Procede + DCI with Auto-Tuning enabled. I have Start Boost @ 35%, Max Boost @ 15PSI, IC @ 100%, Aggression @ 1 Thoughts?
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08-25-2011, 03:08 PM	#19
cwn23 Major 23 Rep 1,142 Posts Drives: E92 Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Timing doesn't look all that great...Need to drop boost down as it seems it maybe too much for you car, or else you have very poor quality gas Last edited by cwn23; 08-25-2011 at 03:26 PM..
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08-25-2011, 03:20 PM	#20
drewmeyer87 Chump 10 Rep 173 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (2)	I was thinking the same thing, I use Chevron 91 pump gas down here in San Diego. Even if I add the NOS w/MMT Octane boost, it doesn't improve things much even at these stock map settings. My car seems jittery after shifts and I was wondering if I was suffering from the same post-shift timing issues as others, it seems mine recovers though shorthly after the shift.
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08-25-2011, 03:24 PM	#21
theworm Enlisted Member 0 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 335i, PROcede v5 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sweden iTrader: (0)	drewmeyer87, send your logs to Shiv. I sent mine, running procede+DCI and he needs to fix some on the autotuning (its still beta), its too aggressive for us guys w/o rest of the mods it seems.
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08-25-2011, 03:28 PM	#22
secretsquirrel Colonel 155 Rep 2,326 Posts Drives: f80 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Far North Dallas iTrader: (2)	I don't see any post shift timing issues, you're just trying to run too much boost for your octane. You should not be boosting in the 15's in summer on 91. Do you have any mods, if not, you prolly need to be around 13psi with 91.
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