[335Power]

If you have a Dinan tune on your car and decide to move to a Juice Box tune, 3 or 4, is there any problems with simply installing the JB over the Dinan?

[Turkeybaster115]

Originally Posted by 335Power

If you have a Dinan tune on your car and decide to move to a Juice Box tune, 3 or 4, is there any problems with simply installing the JB over the Dinan?

you can install JB+ over any flash, but we have discussed adding JB3/4 over a flash in the past. Just do a search, and enjoy reading the responses. Also, may I ask, why you're hellbent on destroying your car?

[venom3469]

Yeah dump dianan and the thought of JB 3 or 4!

Get Vinshu mane, way better! IMO.

[dlbrooks18]

You can only run a JB+ or JB4 with the Dinan, JB3 wasn't made to work with a flash.. both are great solutions and you don't need to flash back to stock.

[san6279]

I'm considering stacking JB4 on top of Dinan Stage 2. I started to look up what my approx rwhp gain would be, and seem to have found some conflicting data. (My car, other than the tune, is stock except for CAI and FMIC. I run 92 Oct)

The N54 Tuning website states stock applications should use Map 1 (13 psi), which is actually about the same as my current Dinan tune. It shows Map 2 (14.5 psi) as suggest for those with downpipes and 93 octane. It shows Map 2 making 387 rwph.

The e90post N54 Tune Comparison Chart thread shows JB4 Map 1 as suggested for DCI, 91 Oct, and making 365 rwhp.

So, bottom line, with only CAI and FMIC, which Map can I run and be safe?

[BQTuning]

If you value your warranty and want to scim it by with out worry then get Cobb. Its a value worth investing in and that will take you a long way with BMWs.

I am Pro Dinan, and I will only settle for Cobb as a secondary tune, as I can remove it on dime, and dont have to worry about meddling with the ECU compartment i.e keep your hands clean without tools.

If you dont care about your warranty then go ahead and do as you like Oink Oink

[Fundahl]

Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115

you can install JB+ over any flash, but we have discussed adding JB3/4 over a flash in the past. Just do a search, and enjoy reading the responses. Also, may I ask, why you're hellbent on destroying your car?

How did you come to the conclusion that he is hellbent on destroying his car?

[Fundahl]

Originally Posted by venom3469

Yeah dump dianan and the thought of JB 3 or 4!

Get Vinshu mane, way better! IMO.

So, the thought of a JB upsets you?

Why?

The thought of always paying for Procede upgrades...

[Fundahl]

Originally Posted by BuraQ

If you value your warranty and want to scim it by with out worry then get Cobb. Its a value worth investing in and that will take you a long way with BMWs.

I am Pro Dinan, and I will only settle for Cobb as a secondary tune, as I can remove it on dime, and dont have to worry about meddling with the ECU compartment i.e keep your hands clean without tools.

If you dont care about your warranty then go ahead and do as you like Oink Oink

Piggybacks are perfectly capable of retaining warranty.....

[scott_uw]

Originally Posted by san6279

I'm considering stacking JB4 on top of Dinan Stage 2. I started to look up what my approx rwhp gain would be, and seem to have found some conflicting data. (My car, other than the tune, is stock except for CAI and FMIC. I run 92 Oct)

The N54 Tuning website states stock applications should use Map 1 (13 psi), which is actually about the same as my current Dinan tune. It shows Map 2 (14.5 psi) as suggest for those with downpipes and 93 octane. It shows Map 2 making 387 rwph.

The e90post N54 Tune Comparison Chart thread shows JB4 Map 1 as suggested for DCI, 91 Oct, and making 365 rwhp.

So, bottom line, with only CAI and FMIC, which Map can I run and be safe?

According to Mike you really only need 93 octane and DCI to run map 2. Whether an upgraded FMIC makes up for timing lost by 1 octane is not my area of knowledge though, but I suspect you could.

[scott_uw]

Originally Posted by Fundahl

So, the thought of a JB upsets you?

Why?

Because he bought the opposing piggyback.

PROcede vs Juicebox reminds me of PS3 vs XBOX.

Bunch of yahoos arguing for whatever system they bought into on Sony's or MS' behalf.

Sad really..

[san6279]

Originally Posted by scott_uw

According to Mike you really only need 93 octane and DCI to run map 2. Whether an upgraded FMIC makes up for timing lost by 1 octane is not my area of knowledge though, but I suspect you could.

Thanks for the response. Contacted Mike today and he thought my mods and Map 2 on 92 oct would be fine. He also mentioned Map 5 autotune.

[turb0mik3]

Originally Posted by BuraQ

If you value your warranty and want to scim it by with out worry then get Cobb. Its a value worth investing in and that will take you a long way with BMWs.

I am Pro Dinan, and I will only settle for Cobb as a secondary tune, as I can remove it on dime, and dont have to worry about meddling with the ECU compartment i.e keep your hands clean without tools.

If you dont care about your warranty then go ahead and do as you like Oink Oink

No GIAC? GIAC puts dinan to shame, ha. Dinan would be a third for me.

To the OP, keep the dinan and get a JB+ "for use with tune." Check this link...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533627

[nitehawk]

Can you flash Cobb over a Dinan tune? Or, do I need to take my car back to the dealer and have them flash it back to stock first?

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by 335Power

If you have a Dinan tune on your car and decide to move to a Juice Box tune, 3 or 4, is there any problems with simply installing the JB over the Dinan?

You can install the JB4 over the Dinan as the JB4s absolute boost targeting will supersede the Dinan tune. Your map0 would be Dinan.

Mike

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by nitehawk

Can you flash Cobb over a Dinan tune? Or, do I need to take my car back to the dealer and have them flash it back to stock first?

I would flash back to stock as there may be some inconstancies if going straight Dinan to Cobb. I would contact COBB to make sure as I am not an expert on that.

Mike

[335Power]

To clear some things up I am not trying to run both tunes. I simply want to switch from one to the other.

[dlbrooks18]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

You can install the JB4 over the Dinan as the JB4s absolute boost targeting will supersede the Dinan tune. Your map0 would be Dinan.

Mike

So this sounds like your best option, go JB4 and you can switch back to Dinan if you want.. not mention all of the cool features JB4 offers

[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by Fundahl

Piggybacks are perfectly capable of retaining warranty.....

Yes of course if you hide them, extra work to do that

[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by Mflowt5

No GIAC? GIAC puts dinan to shame, ha. Dinan would be a third for me.

To the OP, keep the dinan and get a JB+ "for use with tune." Check this link...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533627

And your point ? I think your going to much on the offensive side here. I said nothing about tune performance which is obvious what you are infering to. Last I checked your quoted me expressing warranty and convienience of a tune. How does GIAC stand up to Dinan when it comes to warranty ? This is the premise of my statement.

[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by nitehawk

Can you flash Cobb over a Dinan tune? Or, do I need to take my car back to the dealer and have them flash it back to stock first?

Yes you can flash Cobb over the Dinan tune. However in order to get Dinan flashed back to the car you will have to go into a Dinan dealer to have it done. The AP is not able to dump/backup the Dinan flash.

Agreeing with Mike yes you would want to flash to stock then to Cobb.

[venom3469]

Originally Posted by Fundahl

So, the thought of a JB upsets you?

Why?

The thought of always paying for Procede upgrades...

Like I said IMO! I have done research and that's what I think!