Oil Change Question

mbiz · 09-07-2011, 10:10 PM

I am due for an oil change (first non free maintenance oil change). I want to take it to an indy shop so I asked whether they used the same brand of oil as the dealer. They said they don't but use the same grade (I believe he said they use Castrol). My question is sometimes I get oil topped up at the dealer as the 335 burns a lil bit of it off. Will it matter that I don't have the same brand as the dealer?

atown88 · 09-07-2011, 10:12 PM

As long as it's on the list of BMW approved oils you should be fine.

tibra1 · 09-07-2011, 10:19 PM

Try to top off with an LL-01 BMW approved oil...another oil wont hurt..but if you can try and use this one

Duhst · 09-07-2011, 10:21 PM

I was surprise when I got a quote from the dealer.. $111 with tax. seemed the easier route to go since oil and filter were close to $80.

Syndicategt · 09-07-2011, 10:22 PM

Do it yourself, takes 5 minutes. Tischer is selling complete change kits for $69 shipped.

E90MCF · 09-07-2011, 10:26 PM

Are people honestly this stupid?

It tells you on the cap. . .

for gods sakes. . .

At the rate some people are losing brain cells. . . Oh man

The world will implode soon. . .

Kolyan2k · 09-07-2011, 10:31 PM

castrol 0w30 or mobil 1 0w40 are your best choises. those are better then BMW 5w30

as far as topping off, it doesn't matter a bit...

mbiz · 09-07-2011, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90MCF

Are people honestly this stupid?

It tells you on the cap. . .

for gods sakes. . .

At the rate some people are losing brain cells. . . Oh man

The world will implode soon. . .

Take it easy man, it's just a question.

mbiz · 09-07-2011, 10:35 PM

Appreciate the helpful responses. Thanks!

E90MCF · 09-07-2011, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbiz

Take it easy man, it's just a question.

Not trying to be rude or mean but when the boards are filled with non-sense it is very annoying, I mean in the 2 minutes it took for the first reply to your thread you could have used the

button and typed 'BMW recommended oils' you would have got this

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ngineOils.aspx

Direct answer it took me 10 seconds to read

20 seconds your question answered

Forum has the exact link in this sticky thread from the maintenance forum

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=529230

742 · 09-07-2011, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90MCF

Are people honestly this stupid?

It tells you on the cap. . .

for gods sakes. . .

At the rate some people are losing brain cells. . . Oh man

The world will implode soon. . .

The oil cap is a marketing agreement, nothing more. It means nothing.

The answer to the OP's question is either oil from the dealer or any oil that meets BMW standard LL01 (developed by engineers, not marketing). All of the major brands offer oils that meet this spec, but you may have to hunt for them.

Other than oil from the dealer the realistic options are Mobil 1 0W-40 (NOT the 5W-30) or Castrol Syntec 0W-30. Use of non LL01 oils will threaten warranty coverage.

Unfortunatly the average American approach is to look at the oil cap and then buy Castrol 5W-30, which is not an appropriate oil for this car.

This is a European car. In Europe the car makers control the oil standards, in general through ACEA and then often by additional individual specifications. With any German car one needs to be careful with fluids, and in the case of oil look for the appropriate specification on the back of the bottle. This is not our father's Buick.

Lugigi · 09-07-2011, 11:05 PM

Blast from the past: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127279

btw, I use Motul Synthetic 8100, might be just me or the placebo effect

but it just seems to run better than when I was changing my oil at BMW with thier oem BMW oils...

cheers!

335IAF · 09-07-2011, 11:23 PM

If your indy that you want to take it to is wanting to use Castrol 0w-30 then its ok, as its been mentioned above. Ask your mechanic exactly what oil he wants to put in it.

As for oem oil this is the cheapest i've seen.

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...gine/ES250700/

Just throwing it out there.

I ran Castrol 0w-30 in my E46, havent decided if i'm going to go with that or OEM for this first oil change coming up on the E90.

pruettfan · 09-07-2011, 11:29 PM

I disagree with those who say it does not matter. You need to make sure you are topping off with the same grade oil i.e. 0w-30 etc . Brand is not an issue as long as it LL01

pruettfan · 09-07-2011, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335IAF

If your indy that you want to take it to is wanting to use Castrol 0w-30 then its ok, as its been mentioned above. Ask your mechanic exactly what oil he wants to put in it.

As for oem oil this is the cheapest i've seen.

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...gine/ES250700/

Just throwing it out there.

I ran Castrol 0w-30 in my E46, havent decided if i'm going to go with that or OEM for this first oil change coming up on the E90.

By the time you pay shipping it is the same price as Tischer. ECS is great to buy from though.

Glim · 09-08-2011, 02:56 AM

I was waiting for the weekly oil post:

Page 183 of the owners manual states if you cannot find LL-01 you can use small amounts of API SH spec or higher to top up.

http://www.e90fanatics.com/pdf/E90_OwnersManual.pdf

Kolyan2k · 09-08-2011, 07:42 AM

its pretty simple. BMW in Germany wants you to use synthetic oil. the only widely available synthetic oils are Castro 0w30 and Mobil 0w40, the rest are just labeled synthetic through some loop hole in USA. I think even BMW 5w30 is not really synthetic.

Glim · 09-08-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolyan2k

I think even BMW 5w30 is not really synthetic.

It is, BMW oil is a European oil called Castrol Softec TXT 5w-30, very similar to Castrol 0w-30. I use 0w-30 and would 100% trust the BMW 5w-30.

Bcube · 09-08-2011, 01:33 PM

Am I the only one that pursued Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5w-40? It is BMW LL-01 approved. The local Ferrari/Maserati parts guy is more than happy to sell it to me @ $14 a quart.

Glim · 09-08-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcube

local Ferrari/Maserati parts guy is more than happy to sell it to me @ $14 a quart.

If I had a local Ferrari dealership I would be there all day instead of at work.

Lugigi · 09-08-2011, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolyan2k

its pretty simple. BMW in Germany wants you to use synthetic oil. the only widely available synthetic oils are Castro 0w30 and Mobil 0w40, the rest are just labeled synthetic through some loop hole in USA. I think even BMW 5w30 is not really synthetic.

Motul:
1953 - the launch of the World's 1st Multigrade Motor Oil.
1966 - the launch of the World's 1st Semi-Synthetic Motor Oil.
1971 - the launch of the World's 1st 100% Synthetic Motor Oil

F32Fleet · 09-09-2011, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolyan2k

its pretty simple. BMW in Germany wants you to use synthetic oil. the only widely available synthetic oils are Castro 0w30 and Mobil 0w40, the rest are just labeled synthetic through some loop hole in USA. I think even BMW 5w30 is not really synthetic.

Hmm. Not correct. It applies only to Germany.Gr3 oils perform on par or better than "real" synthetics. Many of these gr 4/5 oils (PAO or Ester) have considerable amounts of Group 3 as a carrier for the additives. XOM has been manufacturing GR3+ in the name VISOM since around 2004 and its used extensively in their 0w-40 (along with their Supersyn PAO). IMO It's usually only worth the time to make sure you have re appropriate OEM approval and not worry about base oils. USUALLY.

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Kolyan2k Major General 968 Rep 5,555 Posts Drives: 2006 S2000 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Boston iTrader: (1)	castrol 0w30 or mobil 1 0w40 are your best choises. those are better then BMW 5w30 as far as topping off, it doesn't matter a bit...
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Lugigi Meh 2 Rep 72 Posts Drives: 330Xi Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (1)	Blast from the past: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127279 btw, I use Motul Synthetic 8100, might be just me or the placebo effect but it just seems to run better than when I was changing my oil at BMW with thier oem BMW oils... cheers!
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335IAF Private 7 Rep 76 Posts Drives: na Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: San Antonio, TX iTrader: (0)	If your indy that you want to take it to is wanting to use Castrol 0w-30 then its ok, as its been mentioned above. Ask your mechanic exactly what oil he wants to put in it. As for oem oil this is the cheapest i've seen. http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...gine/ES250700/ Just throwing it out there. I ran Castrol 0w-30 in my E46, havent decided if i'm going to go with that or OEM for this first oil change coming up on the E90.
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Glim Captain 23 Rep 780 Posts Drives: 2006 330i & 2013 X5 35i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Victoria, BC iTrader: (0)	I was waiting for the weekly oil post: Page 183 of the owners manual states if you cannot find LL-01 you can use small amounts of API SH spec or higher to top up. http://www.e90fanatics.com/pdf/E90_OwnersManual.pdf
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Kolyan2k Major General 968 Rep 5,555 Posts Drives: 2006 S2000 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Boston iTrader: (1)	its pretty simple. BMW in Germany wants you to use synthetic oil. the only widely available synthetic oils are Castro 0w30 and Mobil 0w40, the rest are just labeled synthetic through some loop hole in USA. I think even BMW 5w30 is not really synthetic.
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Bcube Been there, wrecked that. 18 Rep 547 Posts Drives: '07 E93 335i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Am I the only one that pursued Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5w-40? It is BMW LL-01 approved. The local Ferrari/Maserati parts guy is more than happy to sell it to me @ $14 a quart. __________________ -Brian ~199K miles. I -still- don't fear my 335i.
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