335 revealed!

Messarnd · 04-30-2007, 05:14 PM

Ever wonder where the "335" came from? (not exactly a 3.5 l. engine as you know). My friend and resident expert on all things fast, suggested that a likely inspiration was from the technology wonder kit that was the Luftwaffe. Late in the war, they introduced a twin engine super-screamer figher that would have left P51's littering Western Europe if they'd have gotten a few more built. Twin engine propeller/pusher design, ultra-fast, breakthrough technology.....hmmmm...sounds a little like my favorite car! Check it out motorheads...the Dornier 335...Me thinks rattling around Munchen are some guys pining for the good old days.

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/ge..._335/do335.htm

Ninjaneer · 04-30-2007, 05:39 PM

bad link...

e.n335 · 04-30-2007, 05:46 PM

They also used already water/methanol injection in WW2 planes ...

DanMardik · 04-30-2007, 05:54 PM

In all reality, I think it was done for marketing purposes more than anything. I remember reading somewhere that to cut costs of a newer 3.5Liter motor BMW decided they would just up the HP on their tested 3.0 motor by adding the turbo's instead of going with the bigger motor.
They in turn changed the model from a more accurate 330 to 335 to compete with it's similarly powered 3.5 liter competitors. *i.e. Infiniti, Nissan, Mercedes

BoostedBMW · 04-30-2007, 06:16 PM

Its done for marketing IMO. Most retards will hear 335 and think that the engine is bigger.

lawdude · 04-30-2007, 06:52 PM

You posted thread twice:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59132

LOLrance · 04-30-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BoostedBMW

Its done for marketing IMO. Most retards will hear 335 and think that the engine is bigger.

+1. I have already read numerous posts on other forums of people thinking the 335 mean 3.5 liter.

sflgator · 04-30-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Messarnd

Ever wonder where the "335" came from? (not exactly a 3.5 l. engine as you know). My friend and resident expert on all things fast, suggested that a likely inspiration was from the technology wonder kit that was the Luftwaffe. Late in the war, they introduced a twin engine super-screamer figher that would have left P51's littering Western Europe if they'd have gotten a few more built. Twin engine propeller/pusher design, ultra-fast, breakthrough technology.....hmmmm...sounds a little like my favorite car! Check it out motorheads...the Dornier 335...Me thinks rattling around Munchen are some guys pining for the good old days.

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/ge..._335/do335.htm

I hope they didn't name it after technology from WWII Nazi Germany!!! :mad: Although their technological innovations during WWII are impressive (and some just represent the worst mankind has ever seen), it's not exactly something they should be proud of.

abdarm · 04-30-2007, 08:18 PM

interesting thanks for posting

thealbert · 05-01-2007, 12:53 AM

wonder if this 335 suffered fuel pump problems like our 335is! hahahahhahahaha just kidding

e.n335 · 05-01-2007, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflgator

I hope they didn't name it after technology from WWII Nazi Germany!!! :mad: Although their technological innovations during WWII are impressive (and some just represent the worst mankind has ever seen), it's not exactly something they should be proud of.

No, they didn't. BMW wanted to diversify the 3.0 twin turbo from the 3.0 N/A models. All of us can forget about this bad, bad Nazi thing. Nobody of us has been involved, I guess all of us even have not been born when this crap happened.

Cheers
Eugen

sflgator · 05-01-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

No, they didn't. BMW wanted to diversify the 3.0 twin turbo from the 3.0 N/A models. All of us can forget about this bad, bad Nazi thing. Nobody of us has been involved, I guess all of us even have not been born when this crap happened.

Cheers
Eugen

I'm sure they didn't name it after this "technology," but it concerns me that someone felt the need to mention that. btw -- it doesn't matter when we were born; my father was in the U.S. Army during WWII and my parents have friends who are Holocaust concentration camp survivors...from generation to generation, we NEVER forget!

bilworth · 05-01-2007, 09:25 AM

I heard is was based upon the maximum oil temperature attained during testing.

e.n335 · 05-01-2007, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflgator

I'm sure they didn't name it after this "technology," but it concerns me that someone felt the need to mention that. btw -- it doesn't matter when we were born; my father was in the U.S. Army during WWII and my parents have friends who are Holocaust concentration camp survivors...from generation to generation, we NEVER forget!

Maybe you misunderstood. We should never forget but we are not guilty ! Additional you could think about native Americans and black people as well. Or what the catholics did. About 9/11 ... your president, Mr. Bush. It happened all the time, it's still going on and will continue. It's a sad, sad story.

Cheers
Eugen

e.n335 · 05-01-2007, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilworth

I heard is was based upon the maximum oil temperature attained during testing.

Fubarsky · 05-01-2007, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilworth

I heard is was based upon the maximum oil temperature attained during testing.

Very funny, best laugh I've had about not having an oil cooler.

Maestro · 05-01-2007, 10:23 AM

Gee I remember building a model of that plane when I was kid.

sflgator · 05-01-2007, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

Maybe you misunderstood. We should never forget but we are not guilty ! Additional you could think about native Americans and black people as well. Or what the catholics did. About 9/11 ... your president, Mr. Bush. It happened all the time, it's still going on and will continue. It's a sad, sad story.

Cheers
Eugen

Yeah, and the Swiss always say they're neutral

...what a load of crap! :mad: btw -- I'm done with this political discussion.

e.n335 · 05-01-2007, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflgator

Yeah, and the Swiss always say they're neutral

...what a load of crap! :mad: btw -- I'm done with this political discussion.

I am ok.

Cheers
Eugen

Ado · 05-01-2007, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

Maybe you misunderstood. We should never forget but we are not guilty ! Additional you could think about native Americans and black people as well. Or what the catholics did. About 9/11 ... your president, Mr. Bush. It happened all the time, it's still going on and will continue. It's a sad, sad story.

Cheers
Eugen

The thing about Bush is sooo true

.

BTW, forgive but never forget.

adc · 05-01-2007, 04:24 PM

It all started in the early 80s, when BMW's flagship was the 733 (or was it the 735? Jeez, can't remember anymore). Anyway, they wanted something to compete with the big S class V8 cars, so they turbocharged the 3.3 (or 3.5L) engines and gave the cars the designation 745.

So from that point on, whenever they wanted to emphasize the performance they have inflated the badge number, and whenever they wanted the opposite they've shrunk it. (Think E90 330 vs. 325 for example).

Pure marketing exercise...

Oh wait, now that I think about it, I think it started a few years earlier than that with the US-spec E21 320i, which was a 1.8L...

BayernMuenchen · 05-01-2007, 08:00 PM

So basically it's liberally rounding up....

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Messarnd Registered 2 Rep 4 Posts Drives: E92 335 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	335 revealed! Ever wonder where the "335" came from? (not exactly a 3.5 l. engine as you know). My friend and resident expert on all things fast, suggested that a likely inspiration was from the technology wonder kit that was the Luftwaffe. Late in the war, they introduced a twin engine super-screamer figher that would have left P51's littering Western Europe if they'd have gotten a few more built. Twin engine propeller/pusher design, ultra-fast, breakthrough technology.....hmmmm...sounds a little like my favorite car! Check it out motorheads...the Dornier 335...Me thinks rattling around Munchen are some guys pining for the good old days. http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/ge..._335/do335.htm Last edited by Messarnd; 04-30-2007 at 05:43 PM.. Reason: new link
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