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      09-29-2011, 08:30 PM   #1
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Mixing Meth to Water??? By Volume or Weight??

any info on this..ive been searching on how to properly mix the meth to water concentration..when i seen people running 50/50 or 70/30 meth to water, are you guys basing this off by Volume or Weight. anybody got a sure-fire way to mix
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A lot of info abt this if u google it. From different forums too, With that said the easiest way for me is volume. I believe almost everyone here does it by volume too.
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any info on this..ive been searching on how to properly mix the meth to water concentration..when i seen people running 50/50 or 70/30 meth to water, are you guys basing this off by Volume or Weight. anybody got a sure-fire way to mix
This is what I do

50/50 mix by weight:
1 gal mix = 55oz water and 73oz meth
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Volume.....this is not rocket surgery
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lol..im just making sure...rather be safe than sorry and i cant help to make everything scientific..its the perfectionist in me!



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VoCo + VaCa - VdCd = VfCf

Vo = Volume original
Co = Concentration original

a = add

d = drain

f = final

This formula allows you to add/drain at different concentrations and know what the final concentration will be.
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Your supposed to do it by weight....
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This is what I do

50/50 mix by weight:
1 gal mix = 55oz water and 73oz meth
I've always done it by volume but seeing this post means that my 50/50 mix by volume actually contains a much lower meth concentration. Perhaps I'll start using weight too!
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So, for 50/50 mix.
If we fill half of 1gal. can with methanol and the other half of 1 gal. can. with pure water. It will be wrong... ?
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yeah from what i gathered through google searching prior to starting this post was by weight is correct..and by weight its a little more confusing how to calculate the proper mixture..by volume is obviously the easier method. I was mainly looking for someone to chime in with a formula or calculator they might have to get a by weight mixture...one that is user friendly and not over-complicated for the majority of us here to use!




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Your supposed to do it by weight....
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Here's a great chart you can use...shows you what to do while volume mixing telling you what meth% you've got back calculated for weight..


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      09-30-2011, 12:58 PM   #12
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yes..this is exactly what i was referring to..thanks!



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Here's a great chart you can use...shows you what to do while volume mixing telling you what meth% you've got back calculated for weight..


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Good find Dz,

I still estimate it, probably add a little more meth than water. To me it's not an exact science since meth testing shows very little power/cooler difference between 50/50 and 70/30. Guys who run 90/10 are just wasting the methanol.
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That's handy.

Thanks.
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Here's a great chart you can use...shows you what to do while volume mixing telling you what meth% you've got back calculated for weight..


so according to the chart, if you had to eye it, 40% water and 60% meth should be pretty close for a 50/50 mix by weight in a gallon container?
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So for the last round of testing by Shiv and others where a 50-50 mix was not flammable... was that by volume?

Would a 50-50 mix by weight be flammable?
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The difference in concentration by measuring weight or volume is negligible. Use the method you prefer and stick to it to keep conditions the same.

A 50/50 mixture by volume (and also by weight) will burn if heated. It is no near as flammable as stronger mixtures though.
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Volume.....this is not rocket surgery
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You also don't have to be super accurate. 48/52 will do just fine as well

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I am sure that mixing by volume is close enough........

But.

Water weighs more than meth, so if you mix 50/50 by sight you will be getting more water than meth in the mix.

Water is actually 25% heavier than meth.

Meth weighs 8lbs per Cdn gallon

Water weighs 10lbs per Cdn gallon

I gallon = 4.546 litres.

But that chart is pretty handy for eyeballing.
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one that is user friendly and not over-complicated for the majority of us here to use!
This is over complicated?
50/50 mix by weight:
1 gal mix = 55oz water and 73oz meth

Or if you want a formula: 55ozW + 73ozM = 1Gal 50/50 WMmix


No reason to estimate or eyeball or any of that.
1) Take a gallon jug like left over from window washer fluid. Take it into your kitchen and pour in 55oz water and mark the line with a sharpie and label "Water"

2) Pour in another 73 oz or dump it out and pour in 1 gal. Mark the line with "Meth".

3) To use in the garage: Pour in distilled water to first line, pour in meth to second line. Done. Same mixture every time.

I add in a few drops of food coloring so I can see it in the tank and in the lines.
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Your supposed to do it by weight....
Yep... There was a LOT of misinformation and confusion about this when I first started out. After some research and math, i found out there's a pretty big difference between the two, and volume is NOT close enough, it's a pretty big diff actually.
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