[Matt2008]

Hi guys

Been a while since I've been here as sold my 335d a while back.
Now, several cars later I might be going full circle and getting another 335 - but touring this time so more family friendly.

It'll be on company lease so the 335d is nice and quick and whilst not the best on emissions/company tax it should a bit cheaper than the 335i.

Having already had a 335d, I'm unsure what to get now. Sorry, as I'm sure its been done to death before but....

335d had great torque esp with a remap that I had but the lack of noise it made let it down. How much better is the noise from a 335i?
I do like a car that makes a nice noise and thats one thing thats top of my list. I'm currently in an E46 M3 so the d will be...... quiet

How torquey is the 335i compared to 335d?

Can you get a 335i remapped as easy as the d and how do the gains stack up compared to the d?

Whats this golf tee mod I've heard about on the i? Sounds nice on start up.

I used to get about 33-34 mpg on the d, am i right in thinking that the i will give about 26mpg?

[Dr G13]

You will not regret if you went for the petrol the sound alone makes it worth while. Fuel economy wise on my 2007 auto I can get 36mpg on the motorways however in town only use that drops to 19 for me.

[BIGTIME]

IMO it's got to be the 335i for the noise and gearbox. The dct box is awesome mate.

[Matt2008]

Originally Posted by BIGTIME

IMO it's got to be the 335i for the noise and gearbox. The dct box is awesome mate.

Is the 335i auto box the same as the 335d?

[AWBimmer]

335d all day.. :-)

[Matt2008]

Originally Posted by Diseasel

Your going to modify a company lease car?

Brave man. im sure your company will be happy if stuff goes wrong and warranty wont pay up lol

335i has no torque to speak of when you consider a 335d and the 335d has no noise to speak of when you consider a 335i

Swings and roundabouts really.

If your going to be company motorway munching then id recommend the 335d as it just hands down beats the 335i for this purpose.

Id even say try the 330D it will be lighter on the Tax and you wont see the difference until your well over the speeds that will cost you your licence and also your job.

You cant really lose on the engines i think though they are all good

Remaps are untraceable right

No real motorway miles - mainly B roads/town driving.

[creepy coupe]

I never found myself wanting more torque in the 335i.

Golf tee mode, is a simple disconnection of a pipe on the N/S/R rear silencer box and either plugging with a tee or as I did folding the pipe over. It give the 335i a deeper tone, some owners like it some don't.

As already said, DCT is a great gearbox in the 335i

[Kerr]

Originally Posted by Diseasel

Your going to modify a company lease car?

Brave man. im sure your company will be happy if stuff goes wrong and warranty wont pay up lol

335i has no torque to speak of when you consider a 335d and the 335d has no noise to speak of when you consider a 335i

Swings and roundabouts really.

If your going to be company motorway munching then id recommend the 335d as it just hands down beats the 335i for this purpose.

Id even say try the 330D it will be lighter on the Tax and you wont see the difference until your well over the speeds that will cost you your licence and also your job.

You cant really lose on the engines i think though they are all good

You do realise a 335i has nearly 300lb/ft torque from 1300RPM and easily pulls from below 1000RPM? It's hardly lacking torque.

You simply can't compare the characteristics of driving a diesel to a petrol car.

[Nick999]

Get a 335i. Fit a JB4 tuning box (twenty miniutes to fit and 400bhp) Then watch your speedo do this. Or you could buy a diesel and get 35 mpg!!

[zltm089]

I don't think the 335i lacks torque.....even in standard form, my neck does hurt when i floor it....but, yes if you compare it with the 335D then yes, the D got more torque....

stack a JB Plus on the 335i and you'll get lots and lots of torque!....

the 335i engine is known to have some "common" issues.....not sure if its the same for the D.....

but once all the issues sorted....I think the engine is great! ....good torque, nice sound, very smooth and consistent power delivery....and its very easy to get more bhp and torque from a simple remap...

[dxb335d]

Get a 335i, you have had a 335d before. Performace wise not much in it. Even with re-maps. Sound wise the 335i sounds fantastic.

[Mike in Hampshire]

Originally Posted by Matt2008

How much better is the noise from a 335i?
I do like a car that makes a nice noise and thats one thing thats top of my list. am i right in thinking that the i will give about 26mpg?

Matt2008, here's my answers to these three points:

1. A LOT better, I mean no comparison really.
2. Sound top of your list? Has to be the "i" then.
3. Mpg on the i depends on the roads you're driving, since you say mainly B and town roads I'd expect an average of about 23 ish.

Mike.

[Nick999]

Originally Posted by Diseasel

Im pretty sure that is not a JB4 doing 3.9 seconds.

That guy has a meth kit and catless DP's in addition to a JB4

Hes over on the Yank forums.

Also the N55 doesnt get 400bhp off the JB4 its a 50-60hp increase currently... but improving all the time

Dont know about the N55, but the N54 gets an extra 100 bhp from a completely stock engine. A lot more with other mods!

I guess the diesel version can be modified to get an extra 100 bhp+ also

Both stock cars have very similar performance.. With the Petrol 335 you get more bhp. With the diesel 335 you get more torque. Simply down to personal choice what you prefer

The diesel gets a little better economy. The petrol sounds better and gets a manual gearbox option for the purists!

Both look fantastic with the M Tech body kit, 19" alloys and twin exit exhausts. Guess it's win win

[dxb335d]

Not watched the vid. Don't need to. But 400HP in a 3 series will not do 0-60 in 3.9 secs.

[SelSol]

So your company is happy to you to wank about in a 25mpg car huh? Nice. I'd have thought that by the time you weigh up the tax benefits of a d against the i, its a no brainer

335d company car tax and BEK (I've assumed you're in the 40% tax bracket because 335d isn't usually a company car for a paperclip salesman) is £7105 taxable.

A 335i is £8421, factor in the actual fuel cost difference and I think you have to question if the i is significantly better than a d to make it worthwhile.

[willhollin]

Judging by Matt's previous cars, he may well own said company.

Just like Palmnuts does.

[Mike in Hampshire]

Originally Posted by SelSol

So your company is happy to you to wank about in a 25mpg car huh?

I doubt it. He wouldn't get much work done, and it would leave a "tidemark" I'd have thought.

Mike.

[SelSol]

Originally Posted by willhollin

Judging by Matt's previous cars, he may well own said company.

Just like Palmnuts does.

Doesn't mitigate the fact that an i needs to feel quite a bit better than a d to justify the extra cost. Still, you pays yer money you takes yer pick!

[Nick999]

Originally Posted by SelSol

Doesn't mitigate the fact that an i needs to feel quite a bit better than a d to justify the extra cost. Still, you pays yer money you takes yer pick!

Dont understand all this company tax stuff.. I just save up the money and buy what I want. A fast petrol car with manual gearbox

[Kerr]

Originally Posted by Diseasel

The 330D is way cheaper on company car tax and gives nothing away 0-100mph.

Define nothing for me.

From what I can see a 335i does a standing quarter in mid 13s at about 104MPH.

A 330D is a second slower and gives up 6-7MPH.

It depends what you define as nothing I guess.

The M3 is about 1 second and 8MPH faster than the 335i down a standing quarter. So do we call that nothing too?

I'd call it significant improvement.

People just don't grasp that the difference between cars does not mean they disappear within seconds, but the truth is the speed difference feels greater and difficult to make up.

[jimmylad]

Originally Posted by Diseasel

and gives nothing away 0-100mph

nothing ?

[Kerr]

Originally Posted by Diseasel

Sorry i was referring to the 335D not the 335i. That is quicker.

Also didnt a stock 330D at the pod do a 13.8 at the pod?

No idea but that sounds very quick considering the 0-100mph is 15 secs. All the other E90s I see posting 13s are all over 100mph.

The figures don't quite add up.