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HP Autosport · 10-17-2011, 08:28 PM

Rogue Engineering E9X M3 Rear Toe Arms are approved for Grand-Am Continental Challenge series racing for 2011! If it's good enough for Grand-Am, it's good enough for me!

Rogue Engineering proud to introduce its E82/E9X adjustable rear toe arms. These arms allow for greater toe adjustment for vehicles that have lowered on coilover suspension. For E82/E9X owners with just lowering springs, these are not a necessary requirement.

How Low Can You Go?
When an E82/E9X is lowered beyond the limits of just lowering springs, the rear wheels toe-in excessively. This excessive rear toe can cause increased tire wear (faster than more camber). As an example, here are the specifications for the E9X M3.

Factory Toe Specs Value
Min +0.10
Max +0.20
Preferred +0.15

On a recent install of coilovers, we discovered that the toe of the rear wheels had an incurable +0.81 left and right toe. Unfortunately, with the stock toe arms, we could not dial out the toe. Therefore, creating a strong, more adjustable part was in order.

For standard spring-only suspension installs, there is enough adjustment in the factory toe arms to bring them back into spec.

The Right to Bear (Stronger) Arms
The sophisticated (and some say complicated) rear suspension of the current E82/E9X will undoubtedly be replicated by many other companies in the future. However, for those of us in the aftermarket, we're still learning about the little quirks of the suspension. By applying our experience with our E36 and E46 suspension components, we have built arms that are strong and lightweight, while serving the needs of the rear suspension adjustments.

RE rear control arms are made from the highest quality components, from USA.

*100% machined and anodized, 6061-T6 lightweight aluminum arms
*High-strength, 3 piece, rod end (with carbon fiber reinforced, PTFE race)
offers longer life for street compared to standard rod ends
*Seals-it Rod End Seals keep dirt, water and other contaminants out (Rogue
Engineering is the ONLY company to incorporate this simple, yet effective
item to extend the life of the rod end!)
*Lighter than stock! (Stock is 875g, RE arms are 640g)
*Extremely easy installation and adjustment (your alignment shop will LOVE
you!)

***Anodized Black Only***

Order here:

http://www.hpashop.com/product.sc?pr...categoryId=176

$289

cvc 22349a · 10-17-2011, 11:37 PM

2 questions:
Do these arms affect ride quality?
Do they reduce the lateral slop in the rear?

TurboBimmer · 10-18-2011, 03:20 AM

Can these be ordered in black? I need a stealth look

Alpina_B3_Lux · 10-18-2011, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

Can these be ordered in black? I need a stealth look

+ 1

Great product in any case, Harold.

Alpina_B3_Lux

TurboBimmer · 10-19-2011, 06:04 AM

Order placed.

Just need a paypal invoice which includes the anodizing in black

Alpina_B3_Lux · 10-19-2011, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

Order placed.

Just need a paypal invoice which includes the anodizing in black

Order placed as well. I see the Force is strong in Luxembourg!

Alpina_B3_Lux

tunachris · 10-19-2011, 04:47 PM

I'm instere

tunachris · 10-19-2011, 04:48 PM

Sorry about that. How much is the install?

HP Autosport · 10-28-2011, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

Order placed.

Just need a paypal invoice which includes the anodizing in black

I have two pairs in black waiting to come back from the anodizer. If there is more of you, please let me know so I can have more anodized in black.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tunachris

Sorry about that. How much is the install?

About an hour plus alignment.

TurboBimmer · 10-28-2011, 09:51 AM

[QUOTE=HP Autowerks;10697436]I have two pairs in black waiting to come back from the anodizer. If there is more of you, please let me know so I can have more anodized in black.

Those would be for Alpina_B3_Lux and for me I guess

HP Autosport · 11-10-2011, 01:49 PM

Special order black anodized arms are ready to go!

Alpina_B3_Lux · 11-11-2011, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Special order black anodized arms are ready to go!

Cool! They look really good. Just confirmed my order for a set!

Alpina_B3_Lux

Jeff@FusionAW · 11-22-2011, 05:04 AM

Question
are there any different between E9x m3 one and regular E9x?
are they same length??

Alpina_B3_Lux · 11-22-2011, 08:30 AM

UPDATE: Just got my set. Thanks Harold!

Alpina_B3_Lux

HP Autosport · 11-22-2011, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff@FusionAW

Question
are there any different between E9x m3 one and regular E9x?
are they same length??

They are different(length wise) and do not interchange.

cvc 22349a · 12-02-2011, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

They are different(length wise) and do not interchange.

Just to confirm: these are for non-m e8x/e9x cars with oe rear lower camber link AND/OR the M3 lower camber link conversion?

Hooy · 01-29-2012, 12:29 AM

Harold, would you recommend this for an E92 lowered on ST V1's if I plan on eliminating 95% wheel gap?

HP Autosport · 01-31-2012, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hooy

Harold, would you recommend this for an E92 lowered on ST V1's if I plan on eliminating 95% wheel gap?

This is meant for toe control. I don't know what you mean by wheel gap?

Hooy · 01-31-2012, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

This is meant for toe control. I don't know what you mean by wheel gap?

My question is will these be recommended to control the toe if I were to drop the car to an extent that eliminates almost all wheel gap. As in will lowering very far require these arms to prevent excessive toe?

HP Autosport · 10-23-2014, 08:17 PM

in stock!

HP Autosport · 12-28-2015, 03:33 PM

bump

Narvin · 01-02-2016, 05:20 PM

Is the anodized black free with purchase?

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