[jokergerm]

So where I live the average temp year round is 45 degrees with a few weeks in the summer were it gets to 75-80

I know where its warm bigger coolers help a lot with heat soak and power

But here were its cool is the upgrade worth the money and will I even notice the power increase

Current mods are jb4 meth dci and ar dp's

[1000klr]

you are the king of all thread starters

[jokergerm]

It's a forum for asking questions. Jesus

I tried searching. But there seems to be a lack of info on regional Fmic recommendations
I can slove the problem for you. Don't read my posts if they bother you

[Dark9T]

after market FMICs not just give you a better cooling and also give you a better air flow over the stock FMIC.

[jokergerm]

Originally Posted by Dark9T

after market FMICs not just give you a better cooling and also give you a better air flow over the stock FMIC.

^^ thanks for your prompt mature helpful repsonse.

[rooringhusky]

Although I haven't installed my FMIC yet to give a valid response about it...but if you have JB4 DCI Meth and AR DPs already then I would safely say its your next best engine mod (depending in your goals of course)

But then again some would argue that hotrod is already running great numbers with the stock FMIC still...Its really up to you but it helps to prevent heat soak to give more consistent pulls (aka power) especially when pushing hard..

[qclik]

yes you need one and get the helix fmic.

i have one for sale if you want lol.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

^Firstly, I need this guy on my sales team

Second, there is a wealth of beaten to death information on intercoolers but yes they help. Although lower ambient temps do help, inevitably in the upper gears the stock intercooler cannot combat those temps like an aftermarket one could.

Finally, let me know if I can help your purchase decision as we carry almost all the popular intercoolers for this platform.

[jokergerm]

I just don't think its worth the money for that mod with how I drive. I rarely go over 100 and don't push it for long periods of time. I might get on it for 10 seconds at a time with 20 min in between. If that makes sense

[ModBargains.com]

Even with a stock vehicle, any time you step on the gas you are robbing yourself of horsepower, because your stock intercooler does not have the ability to cool enough air. It is running hot air into the engine bay, giving your twin turbo engine sluggish throttle response, acceleration and an increase in turbo lag. In my honest opinion, a FMIC is essential mod for anyone who is running a tune and is running higher boost. The stock FMIC simply cannot help cool the air fast enough.

Seeing how your car is a 2007 model, it's very likely that you don't have an oil cooler. If you do have one already, adding an additional oil cooler to help keep tepms down!

[jokergerm]

Originally Posted by **********s.com

Even with a stock vehicle, any time you step on the gas you are robbing yourself of horsepower, because your stock intercooler does not have the ability to cool enough air. It is running hot air into the engine bay, giving your twin turbo engine sluggish throttle response, acceleration and an increase in turbo lag. In my honest opinion, a FMIC is essential mod for anyone who is running a tune and is running higher boost. The stock FMIC simply cannot help cool the air fast enough.

Seeing how your car is a 2007 model, it's very likely that you don't have an oil cooler. If you do have one already, adding an additional oil cooler to help keep tepms down!

I got Lucky my 07 has the facotry oil cooler

[Evolution Racewerks]

A FMIC will always help regardless of region due to the fact that intake air temperature will always increase due to compression. So even if it may be cool in washington state, the intake air temperature will still be dramatically increased once it is compressed by the turbos, which then, is the job of the FMIC to cool that air down as much as possible.

[Bagelfast]

+1.... Not sure what tune you have but if you have a piggyback, set the fuel gauge or oil gauge to show IAT. Set it from when you start off in the morning to your daily routine of driving, you will see IAT pushing around town and gettting on boost slightly shoot close to 100 degress easily. Remember higher IAT, more heat and less boost, mean less performance.
FMIC is def a no brainer, but if its the winter months you can go without one. Meth will also help in this area even more so, as it cools IAT and brings a race gas like conditon to run higher boost.

[1000klr]

Originally Posted by jokergerm

It's a forum for asking questions. Jesus

I tried searching. But there seems to be a lack of info on regional Fmic recommendations
I can slove the problem for you. Don't read my posts if they bother you

kind of hard not to read your posts when there is one on EVERY DAMN PAGE

[jokergerm]

Originally Posted by 1000klr

kind of hard not to read your posts when there is one on EVERY DAMN PAGE

so you are drawn to them...............like a deer in the headlights. (Must see whats going to happen) LOL

[mikeith]

Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

^Firstly, I need this guy on my sales team

Second, there is a wealth of beaten to death information on intercoolers but yes they help. Although lower ambient temps do help, inevitably in the upper gears the stock intercooler cannot combat those temps like an aftermarket one could. Finally, let me know if I can help your purchase decision as we carry almost all the popular intercoolers for this platform.

Originally Posted by jokergerm

I just don't think its worth the money for that mod with how I drive. I rarely go over 100 and don't push it for long periods of time. I might get on it for 10 seconds at a time with 20 min in between. If that makes sense

^read above a 10 second pull from 40(6mt) with get you over 100 and well through 4th gear easily. even at 50* oustide i can feel the power loss hit in the higher rpms in 3rd and REALLY in 4th at full running temp due to the heat soak.(running tune and DP's) these area's are where an upgraded intercooler is VERY noticable. you may not see it as much on a dyno because its usually just a single gear pull but as you push gear by gear in ONE long pull the you will really feel how much you are really losing by a stock intercooler.

Originally Posted by 1000klr

kind of hard not to read your posts when there is one on EVERY DAMN PAGE

don't hate... i'm a post whore myself nothing wrong with people looking for info.

[Zasquatch]

Ambient temps make a difference, but the thermal efficiency and pressure drop accross the stock intercooler sucks. Go read CP-E's whitepaper on their testing and you will learn alot. www.cp-e.com, navigate to the 335i intercooler and you will find a link to it.

Bottom line is that regardless of the ambient, temps are going to rise by the time the air gets to the manifold, and a good aftermarket FMIC will do a much better job keeping things as close to ambient as possible.

[1000klr]

Originally Posted by mikeith

^read above a 10 second pull from 40(6mt) with get you over 100 and well through 4th gear easily. even at 50* oustide i can feel the power loss hit in the higher rpms in 3rd and REALLY in 4th at full running temp due to the heat soak.(running tune and DP's) these area's are where an upgraded intercooler is VERY noticable. you may not see it as much on a dyno because its usually just a single gear pull but as you push gear by gear in ONE long pull the you will really feel how much you are really losing by a stock intercooler.



don't hate... i'm a post whore myself nothing wrong with people looking for info.

i completely agree with "this"

[Wedge1967]

I live in Portland so I had Horse Power Freeks (HPF) install their 7" FMIC. It helps if you're driving your car hard, but if you don't drive hard I would recommend looking into a good Meth kit. Other than my tune, I think Meth was the second best upgrade I did.

[jokergerm]

Originally Posted by Wedge1967

I live in Portland so I had Horse Power Freeks (HPF) install their 7" FMIC. It helps if you're driving your car hard, but if you don't drive hard I would recommend looking into a good Meth kit. Other than my tune, I think Meth was the second best upgrade I did.

ya i have JB4, meth, 3" dp and DCI

thinking about this FMIC upgrade and exhuast next

[Wedge1967]

Originally Posted by jokergerm

ya i have JB4, meth, 3" dp and DCI

thinking about this FMIC upgrade and exhuast next

Give Kirk a call at HPF and see if he'll cut you a deal. They have a nice dyno setup so you can talk him into doing some pulls before and after. They actually use the BMW C clips on the FMIC, so you can quickly go back to stock if needed. I think they are also working on replacement input and exit pipes to cut down on turbulance.

They are located just east of the airport in Portland, so if you get down this way send me a PM and I'll shoot over.

[Syndicategt]

Originally Posted by jokergerm

ya i have JB4, meth, 3" dp and DCI

thinking about this FMIC upgrade and exhuast next

Smart move, FMIC will always help. I would highly suggest getting a LSD or suspension upgraded between power mods.