how much did you get off the window price of your car?

noktekniq · 05-13-2007, 09:48 AM

i was at the dealers yesterday trying to look for the 328i in alpine white. saw a good car with a lot of packages. premium, sport, comfort, and some other sutff i can't remember. but the window price was 41k. i offered 36k (not knowing how much they are willing to do, and they counter offered me a 39k. the car has 4800 miles on it. and i was like DAMn depreciation was almost close to none.

so i went to another dealer down south. saw another alpine white, sport, premium no miles. window price was 39,XXX. i offered 37 and they accepted. but the only reason we didn't close the deal was because i had a pre-mother's day event for my family and i had to rush to the event and they told me to come back the next day early in the morning. soi called the first dealer and see what they can push out. they found a brand new one with premium, sport and xenon, sticker at 39k. they wouldn't disclose what price they could give on the phone but they said that they will guarentee to undercut the other dealers price.

hmm. so i was wondering how much did you guys nudge out for your car.

MaDoose · 05-13-2007, 09:52 AM

BMW Military sales price is set, so no haggling with them but i did pick up my 335i for $39.5k

jetblk328i · 05-13-2007, 09:54 AM

well i basically paid 900 off the sticker, but this WAS WITH tax and title and all that good stuff!!!!so in your case, if you had my deal you d pay 38,100 with tax and title included! yea, i had an amazing offer!

caesardog217 · 05-13-2007, 10:06 AM

I got $2,500 off msrp on a 335i sedan.

Wosby · 05-13-2007, 10:12 AM

On European Delivery i got $1150 above invoice.

STE92VE · 05-13-2007, 10:21 AM

$2K off MSRP seems reasonable, but you should be negotiating form invoice up not sticker down.

noktekniq · 05-13-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by STE92VE

$2K off MSRP seems reasonable, but you should be negotiating form invoice up not sticker down.

thanks for the tip, how much should i go above invoice to seem reasonable

STE92VE · 05-13-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by noktekniq

thanks for the tip, how much should i go above invoice to seem reasonable

If you give the impression that you seem reasonable, you may wind up paying more than you want to. If you're looking at the E90, offer $500 above invoice. With the E92, closer to $1K above invoice is more like it.

John 070 · 05-13-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by STE92VE

$2K off MSRP seems reasonable, but you should be negotiating form invoice up not sticker down.

The reason I don't agree with that is two dealers' invoices are different, i.e. if they include MACO and training. MSRP doesn't change no matter what dealer...so I like MSRP to keep apples to apples. I started with invoice and then realized I wasn't getting the same out-the-door price. The SM tried to hold me to how many $$$ I wanted over invoice--he said you (meaning me) said invoice, and that's what we're doing, so what's the problem? The problem was this price was over $500 more than the first dealer. I simply said let's go back to list price, either take $1700 off or I'll just buy it at the first dealer (I was done going round and round over his invoice being higher [fees] and he'll show me his screen to prove it).

In any negotiation my objective is to stop the moving target and get down to bottom line. Now that I am shopping for an engagement ring, boy, what a headache. No two diamonds are alike, right? And then you got all this bogusness with the lab reports...sticking with GIA is expensive, but I think it levels the playing field for a price.....but I digress...

RiXst3r · 05-13-2007, 10:35 AM

1500 off msrp, back in september '06

noktekniq · 05-13-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by STE92VE

If you give the impression that you seem reasonable, you may wind up paying more than you want to. If you're looking at the E90, offer $500 above invoice. With the E92, closer to $1K above invoice is more like it.

the invoice price is basically the manufactures price when they buy wholesale right? just checking

JackMac · 05-13-2007, 10:43 AM

I agree with STE92VE, and alway negotiate from invoice up. I've never paid for those MACO or training items.

My last two negotiations only took minutes using this approach. I simply said $XXX over invoice and we can sign today (without any other add-ons).

noktekniq · 05-13-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JackMac

I agree with STE92VE, and alway negotiate from invoice up. I've never paid for those MACO or training items.

My last two negotiations only took minutes using this approach. I simply said $XXX over invoice and we can sign today (without any other add-ons).

so for example using the wholesale pricelist from bimmerfest to calculate the invoice. i got $35,730, i can offer 500-1000 above that to get the deal? the car i'm thinking about the the 328i, so how much above that should i offer

ironjw · 05-13-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by caesardog217

I got $2,500 off msrp on a 335i sedan.

yup same here did you purchase it?

STE92VE · 05-13-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by John 070

Now that I am shopping for an engagement ring, boy, what a headache.

Forget the diamond ring. What every woman dreams of is a nice matching washer and dryer combo. At least after 29 years of marriage that is!

noktekniq · 05-13-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by STE92VE

Forget the diamond ring. What every woman dreams of is a nice matching washer and dryer combo. At least after 29 years of marriage that is!

John 070 · 05-13-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by STE92VE

Forget the diamond ring. What every woman dreams of is a nice matching washer and dryer combo. At least after 29 years of marriage that is!

*lol* the headache part is going into something knowing I'll either pay too much, or not get what I paid for. Not like a car where you can get the car from any dealership equipped exactly the same way. Throw in the GIA lab report with the diamond and 50% of the jewelers drop-out of the picture...

Again, with the car as long as you have the option to not buy a BMW, imho the dealer will move off of their high price. I test drove on a Fri. and they wanted list....by mon. we made a deal for $1700 off....worth the wait!

STE92VE · 05-13-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by noktekniq

Thanks for reminding me who you are. I thought you changed your MO, but shame on me for giving you the benefit of the doubt.

JackMac · 05-13-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by noktekniq

so for example using the wholesale pricelist from bimmerfest to calculate the invoice. i got $35,730, i can offer 500-1000 above that to get the deal? the car i'm thinking about the the 328i, so how much above that should i offer

Yes, that is the idea. How much above invoice depends on market conditions in your area. You may get 500 over for a car on the lot, or 1K over for a car you want to order. Also, on a 35K+ car, I wouldn't worry to much about a few hundred one way or the other.

yomash · 05-14-2007, 09:09 AM

$1900 off of ED MSRP.

They didn't want to budge much on the coupes. I'm happy with what I got out of them.

Potty_Pants · 05-14-2007, 09:56 AM

1k over invoice for me on a 335i E90 (ordered)

ppp

504Boy · 05-14-2007, 10:22 AM

I negotiated $1,000 off plus free floor mats.

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noktekniq Colonel 59 Rep 2,032 Posts Drives: e90 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US iTrader: (3)	how much did you get off the window price of your car? i was at the dealers yesterday trying to look for the 328i in alpine white. saw a good car with a lot of packages. premium, sport, comfort, and some other sutff i can't remember. but the window price was 41k. i offered 36k (not knowing how much they are willing to do, and they counter offered me a 39k. the car has 4800 miles on it. and i was like DAMn depreciation was almost close to none. so i went to another dealer down south. saw another alpine white, sport, premium no miles. window price was 39,XXX. i offered 37 and they accepted. but the only reason we didn't close the deal was because i had a pre-mother's day event for my family and i had to rush to the event and they told me to come back the next day early in the morning. soi called the first dealer and see what they can push out. they found a brand new one with premium, sport and xenon, sticker at 39k. they wouldn't disclose what price they could give on the phone but they said that they will guarentee to undercut the other dealers price. hmm. so i was wondering how much did you guys nudge out for your car.
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jetblk328i Colonel 337 Rep 2,458 Posts Drives: X3 M40i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Central PA iTrader: (1)	well i basically paid 900 off the sticker, but this WAS WITH tax and title and all that good stuff!!!!so in your case, if you had my deal you d pay 38,100 with tax and title included! yea, i had an amazing offer!
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STE92VE STEVIL Empire 231 Rep 6,297 Posts Drives: Fast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (0)	$2K off MSRP seems reasonable, but you should be negotiating form invoice up not sticker down. __________________ 2007 E92 328i 6MT-Space Gray/Black Dakota/Gray Poplar w/heated seats-PCD 4/27/07 (SOLD) 2009 E90 328i xDrive 6AT-Space Gray/Oyster Dakota/Dark Burl Walnut w/ZPP,ZCW,Xenons-ED 4/17/09 - Redelivery 5/30/09 (SOLD) 2014 E84 xDrive28i 8AT-Alpine White/Black Nevada/Silver Matte w/ZMV,ZLP,494 - DD 3/14/14 (SOLD)
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RiXst3r 301 Rep 6,510 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ohio iTrader: (14)	1500 off msrp, back in september '06
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yomash Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 264 Posts Drives: X5 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NoVA iTrader: (0)	$1900 off of ED MSRP. They didn't want to budge much on the coupes. I'm happy with what I got out of them. __________________ 2012 e70 X5 xDrive35i M package Carbon Black pervious: 2011 X3 28i \| 2007 e92 335i coupe \| 2008 e90 328xi Sedan \| 2002 e46 M3 coupe \| 2003 Z4 3.0
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504Boy Private 6 Rep 67 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harvey, LA iTrader: (0)	I negotiated $1,000 off plus free floor mats. __________________ 335i Sedan/Sparkling Graphite/Auto/Sport Pkg
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