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      05-24-2007, 09:29 PM   #1
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PROcede 335 vs CTS V edition vs 2003 cobra vs m5

Was wondering...seing as its a competition of penis size at my school on whos car is fastest...how I'd rank against the above stated cars.

I drive a 335i sedan, nonsport, and plan to get a vishnu before the end of the year. My friends drive a Cadillac CTS V edition with intake, exhaust, and chip...claims about 490 - 500hp at the crank. The m5 is a stock 2001 car with 400 to the crank. The cobra has better pulleys for the supercharger, exhaust, and possibly an intake; claims about 415-430 to the crank.

If I were to get the vishnu stage 1 kit how would I rank against those kids? My car is AT and the other drivers are MT, yet none of them are Jeff Gordon by any means. The best driver is the CTS, and the rest are pretty horrible.

So, taking oppinions....how would a stage 1 fair against those guys? And how would it fair once the v2.0 comes out?
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mustang off the line, m5 from 4th gear on would be close with the 335 procede... non sport package cant go past 125 or something but thats too fast anyway
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You have no chance against the suped-up CTS-V (IMHO), the cobra will be a handful too, the M5 you have a chance off the line. What kind of neighborhood do you live in... Geez.
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IMO, your friend with the CTS is bullshitting you, he's maybe pulling 430-440 at the crank with just those mods. If we're talking stock 335 then CTS > Mustang > M5 > 335 , add the stage 1 and it's more like CTS > 335 > Mustang > M5 but the difference between all 4 is very close.
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IMO, your friend with the CTS is bullshitting you, he's maybe pulling 430-440 at the crank with just those mods. If we're talking stock 335 then CTS > Mustang > M5 > 335 , add the stage 1 and it's more like CTS > 335 > Mustang > M5 but the difference between all 4 is very close.
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Listen to matsarge...he's got the C6 'Vette which shares the same engine as the CTS-V (if it's a new one); otherwise, it's the same as the C5 'Vette engine with mods, right?
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I love magazine racer!!! all talk and no go

JUST DO IT, slap on a pair of balls or exchange for a bigger pair and GO and post vids afterwards.

No shoud I? would I? could I?
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Im down here in FL too....what school do u go to. Nice cars there. Mike.
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Listen to matsarge...he's got the C6 'Vette which shares the same engine as the CTS-V (if it's a new one); otherwise, it's the same as the C5 'Vette engine with mods, right?
Yep, if it's not a 06/07 then it's running the 5.7L LS6 (basically the LS1 slightly beefed up) w/ 400HP and 395 TQ stock. The LS6 was used in the C5 Z06's and it's a solid motor with lots of mod potential. If it's an 06/07 then it's got the LS2 in it.

To the OP: It doesn't sound like he's there now but he can easily mod that thing out of your league regardless of which motor he has.
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Im down here in FL too....what school do u go to. Nice cars there. Mike.
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I can't help but wonder what school has all these kids with nice cars. If he said "college" I'd be ok with it, possibly.

I agree with matsarge's take on it. CTS-V's are fast I've heard, but man are they uuuuuuuugly (my subjective opinion)
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go find out.

I think you'll do ok against the M5 and CTS but the mustang should beat you good.
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cts-v will shit all over you. cobra will shit all over you even worse. the M5 you'll probably beat.
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Couldn't anyone mod someone out of their league if they had the money? I've seen e36 rape ferraris all day long.
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i go to cardinal gibbons highschool. private catholic school in ft laudy. everyone has lots of nice cars...especially the dads, ive seen vipers, lambos, SRT10 trucks, ferraris, m6's, etc.

yes, i believe the CTS kid has 490-500 crank hp, his dad owns sound advice....im sure he has more mods then that...hes lookin into supercharging into as well

if i do go procede, ill be the third fastest car at school if i can beat the m5 and cobra...the fastest will be the CTS(which the kid might get rid of and get an even more ridicuolous car), then the next fastest is TT 300z...but the kid always has problems with it...he runs about 20 boost and is looking into upgrades to shoot him at 450 to the wheels...

i know ill never come close to the CTS or the 300z but i love my car and wont give up the luxury to drive a beater like the z...he puts in engine mods over new seats/interior which is rotting...

anyone in the south florida area keep posting or pm me...we should get a 335 group to go on rice patrol sometime

anyone think i can pull with a 4dr srt10 truck? or a ford lightning with exhaust?
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anyone think i can pull with a 4dr srt10 truck? or a ford lightning with exhaust?
lightning will be close. you'll blow the doors off a stock SRT10 truck. also since you're in Florida. I'd definitely consider looking at AA's Xede before the Procede.
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I can't help but wonder what school has all these kids with nice cars. If he said "college" I'd be ok with it, possibly.

I agree with matsarge's take on it. CTS-V's are fast I've heard, but man are they uuuuuuuugly (my subjective opinion)
The CTS-V's are quick, they're good for 4.7 - 4.8 0-60's and low 13's in 1/4 stock. Throw a good cam, heads, headers, and intake on it and you can get them down into the mid 12's. Skip the small stuff, get real nasty and go straight to a S/C on it and you're in the high 11's. You getting good HP/TQ from it but it's still a 3900 lbs. car.
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I love magazine racer!!! all talk and no go

JUST DO IT, slap on a pair of balls or exchange for a bigger pair and GO and post vids afterwards.

No shoud I? would I? could I?
i do race my car...only lost to a modded sti and a ferrari and have raced about 20 - 30 times. not too bad.

i raced the kid with the z when he was at 10 psi(was going in for repairs and he didnt want to F*** it up) and there was about a 10 - 15 ft difference from the nose's of our cars...me in lead

his second run with me at 10 psi still wasnt that good...claims to have "missed 2nd"..not sure, no one was in the car driving with him...and had him by about 1 to 2 cars.
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lightning will be close. you'll blow the doors off a stock SRT10 truck. also since you're in Florida. I'd definitely consider looking at AA's Xede before the Procede.
why should i go with AA's zede instead of proced based upon location? the climate is similar to socal where vishnu is based correct?

not calling you out on it, jus asking for a more in-depth analysis...i jus like all the reviews from the procede owners

so give me something good to consider, any advice is good advice
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btw matsarge, very very nice garage

i like that you added in a callaway part...you should have gotten a straight callaway kit to begin with...heard them things are BEASTS!

but ive read alot of your comments, you are very knowledgable, thanks for your input.

And on the CTS i think he does have headers, not sure all the mods he has...all i know is hes got the 490-500 crank...hes crazy rich.
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Couldn't anyone mod someone out of their league if they had the money? I've seen e36 rape ferraris all day long.
It's alot easier to do that when you get good "bang for the buck". One of the reasons I got rid of my M3 was the insane costs that come with trying to get meaningful gains out of the motor.

I added about 65HP/60TQ to my Vette for ~2K, that kind of gain for the M3 would have cost me 3X as much or more. For about 6K I can go visit LG Motorsports and come out ready to run with Z06's.

I would have had to spend 15K+ just to get the M3 to run with my C6 at stock form. For 15K at Lingenfelter I can come out with a car that's breathing fire.
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why should i go with AA's zede instead of proced based upon location? the climate is similar to socal where vishnu is based correct?

not calling you out on it, jus asking for a more in-depth analysis...i jus like all the reviews from the procede owners

so give me something good to consider, any advice is good advice
pm'd you. i'm not about to turn your thread into a procede v. AA battle because that's the first thing anyone with a procede, or shiv, will attempt to do in response to whatever i write.
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btw matsarge, very very nice garage

i like that you added in a callaway part...you should have gotten a straight callaway kit to begin with...heard them things are BEASTS!

but ive read alot of your comments, you are very knowledgable, thanks for your input.

And on the CTS i think he does have headers, not sure all the mods he has...all i know is hes got the 490-500 crank...hes crazy rich.
Thanks, glad I could help.

He could very well be running that level of HP but if so he's got more mods then he's letting you know about.

Get the stage 1 and you'll have a damn quick car that will make him work for any win.
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lol thanks....speaking of Lingenfelter, the CTS has some mods by them...not sure which..think it was the intake. its an ugly car...but sure is fast. I will take pictures of the fastest cars at my school if i can..and see if i can get some of the kids to pop the hoods for pics to send to u matsarge, in case u or anyone else is curious
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