[m thriller]

Driving back from work today and noticed heaters were not hot and then a few mins later message on nav screen....engine temp hot, drive modertly.....then few mins later.....red message....engine hot stop engine!!!!

Immediately pulled over and shut car off and also noticed car was in limp mode.
Luckily was literally yards away from my bmw indy garage and managed to let it cool and drive into theres.
The stuck the machine on and tested the fan etc and the pump wasn't coming on like it supposed to.
Told me a pump costs £420+vat! plus labour! from dealers but have managed to get one for £400 with a good bit of discount that i should be collecting monday from sytner.
Anyone else had the same issue or know a source to get the pump cheaper?
Has to be o.e equivalent and not a cheap copy.

p.s car does have 140k on it now but still going to cost a few hundred to fix.

Thanks in advance.
mo.

[dxb335d]

140k, wow thats the highest mileage one I know of.

How many of those miles have you done?

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by m thriller

Driving back from work today and noticed heaters were not hot and then a few mins later message on nav screen....engine temp hot, drive modertly.....then few mins later.....red message....engine hot stop engine!!!!

Immediately pulled over and shut car off and also noticed car was in limp mode.
Luckily was literally yards away from my bmw indy garage and managed to let it cool and drive into theres.
The stuck the machine on and tested the fan etc and the pump wasn't coming on like it supposed to.
Told me a pump costs £420+vat! plus labour! from dealers but have managed to get one for £400 with a good bit of discount that i should be collecting monday from sytner.
Anyone else had the same issue or know a source to get the pump cheaper?
Has to be o.e equivalent and not a cheap copy.

p.s car does have 140k on it now but still going to cost a few hundred to fix.

Thanks in advance.
mo.

I have read that electric pump cost about 400-500 and I think you fall in that category.
Other interesting thing, which I read was, failure of those around 140-160K.

You cannot complaint, 140K is a lot, especially on electric pump.

[phil200tdi]

Bmminiparts is much cheaper!

[dxb335d]

annoying if he only just bought the motor.

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

annoying if he only just bought the motor.

Seriously mate, would you buy a car on 140K, unless it is driven by your mate.

You just bought the car recently, and you searched properly.

Sorry to hear OP's problem but OP should try what phil has mentioned.

The other problem is fo.king electric pump. I cant understand why would they put electrical pump on such a brilliant car. Loads of people moan about the design and reliability of it.

[m thriller]

Originally Posted by makkan00

I have read that electric pump cost about 400-500 and I think you fall in that category.
Other interesting thing, which I read was, failure of those around 140-160K.

You cannot complaint, 140K is a lot, especially on electric pump.

Agree with u there mate but didn't expect it to pack up just like that out of the blue and leave me stranded without any power in rush hour lol!

[m thriller]

Originally Posted by makkan00

Seriously mate, would you buy a car on 140K, unless it is driven by your mate.

You just bought the car recently, and you searched properly.

Sorry to hear OP's problem but OP should try what phil has mentioned.

The other problem is fo.king electric pump. I cant understand why would they put electrical pump on such a brilliant car. Loads of people moan about the design and reliability of it.

Nothing wrong with buying a car with over 100k on it if its lived on the motorway with a full BMWSH and driven by a barrister!
My last 2 m3's all had similar mileage and didnt ever have a pump fail on them.
Also did a search and noticed people had them fail as low as 18k miles and many between 20-45k range as well, so if mine made it to 140k then really did do well.
Its just annoying that the part is so expensive and also that it leaves u stranded without any power to even move a yard.

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by m thriller

Nothing wrong with buying a car with over 100k on it if its lived on the motorway with a full BMWSH and driven by a barrister!
My last 2 m3's all had similar mileage and didnt ever have a pump fail on them.
Also did a search and noticed people had them fail as low as 18k miles and many between 20-45k range as well, so if mine made it to 140k then really did do well.
Its just annoying that the part is so expensive and also that it leaves u stranded without any power to even move a yard.

High mileage cars are gambling most of the time. They can keep going on sometimes, whereas other times, they fail at some stage.

Considering what you have said, if it lived upto 140K, its great.

Couple of people on American forum mentioned that they do get water pump malfunction codes on BT tool before it fails.
But who got the time to check the car regularly...
All the best mate.

[AWD Addict]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

140k, wow thats the highest mileage one I know of.

How many of those miles have you done?

Does this car need a timing belt/chain before that?

/jack

[m thriller]

Originally Posted by AWD Addict

Does this car need a timing belt/chain before that?

/jack

Timing chains should be good for atleast 200k+ miles and should really never need changing if services are done on time and good quality oil is used.

I've seen some older bm's with over 300k on original chains lol!
They tend to start rattling way before they ever go and usually give early warning if need changing.

[m thriller]

Originally Posted by makkan00

High mileage cars are gambling most of the time. They can keep going on sometimes, whereas other times, they fail at some stage.

Considering what you have said, if it lived upto 140K, its great.

Couple of people on American forum mentioned that they do get water pump malfunction codes on BT tool before it fails.
But who got the time to check the car regularly...
All the best mate.

Reading the threads on here seems like buying a 335i is a gamble full stop mate lol!
i mean i could have bought one with 50k and still had the pump go and low mileage is no gaurantee as it seems a common issue on these cars at all sorts of mileages.
Its the 1st time this happened today and didn't check really for any codes as indy said it would be water pump from the start and tried to operate with machine and it sounded seized/stuck.
Will replace it now due to mileage anyway but hope new one last a few years atleast.

[m1bjr]

Originally Posted by makkan00

I cant understand why would they put electrical pump on such a brilliant car. Loads of people moan about the design and reliability of it.

Versatility
Economy

It's speed can be varied, including turned off.
So there is a lot of energy to be saved, especially on a cold engine.

E.D. - it's all part of it.

Same as electric power steering - inefficient to run a hydraulic pump 24/7 when most of the time its not needed.

[dxb335d]

My old man had a 530i from 5k - 268k.

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by m1bjr

Versatility
Economy

It's speed can be varied, including turned off.
So there is a lot of energy to be saved, especially on a cold engine.

E.D. - it's all part of it.

Same as electric power steering - inefficient to run a hydraulic pump 24/7 when most of the time its not needed.

Good points mentioned.

[m thriller]

Just wanted to add a update to this thread.

The original pump removed was a siemens item and has now been replaced by a new design one now made by continental one which i believe is supposed to be a lot more relaible and doesn't suffer from the issues of the siemens one.

[zltm089]

Thanks for the update!.....

Does anyone know if the electrical pump is covered by bmw extended warranty?

[RagingKileak]

You lot are MENTAL.

The water pump that fails at 140k now sparking fears of being unreliable? 400 quid?? OMFG! Get a grip, you drive 3.0 two turbo BMW's!!

Matt

[idnan]

Originally Posted by RagingKileak

You lot are MENTAL.

The water pump that fails at 140k now sparking fears of being unreliable? 400 quid?? OMFG! Get a grip, you drive 3.0 two turbo BMW's!!

Matt

Exactly, on a normal cambelt driven car you would change the waterpump at about 80k with the belt so what's the issue? It's a relatively new car with new technology and parts are more expensive.

In fact I had mine done as preventative maintenance with the thermostat when my clutch and turbos were done a few months ago.

[A_P]

Originally Posted by RagingKileak

You lot are MENTAL.

The water pump that fails at 140k now sparking fears of being unreliable? 400 quid?? OMFG! Get a grip, you drive 3.0 two turbo BMW's!!

Matt

LOL Raging Matt.... Rages again hahaha.

[Kerr]

There is just too many people on this site that like to make big issues of the 335i.

Strangely it's people without one that keeping telling the real owners the problems.

It's an odd scenario.

140k from a water pump hardly adds up to a big fault. Quite a few cars I've owned they have needed replaced or recommended to be replaced after 60k.

[m thriller]

Originally Posted by Kerr

There is just too many people on this site that like to make big issues of the 335i.

Strangely it's people without one that keeping telling the real owners the problems.

It's an odd scenario.

140k from a water pump hardly adds up to a big fault. Quite a few cars I've owned they have needed replaced or recommended to be replaced after 60k.

Completely agree.
140k is brilliant from a water pump but there were stories of cars which were failing at below 30k miles and less than 2 yrs old, hence why a new design one by continental replaced the siemens item.
Water pump retails at £500 and labour is approx £150 inc coolant from a indy, so £650 all in..........not the end of the world cost wise, more of a pain when it leaves u stranded roadside.
if i was actually worried about the problems myself would never had bought a high miler and yes too many people seem to make a big issue out of problems with the 335i........all cars have issues.