E90Post
 


The Tire Rack
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > Downpipes. How Many Would Be Interested?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-06-2007, 01:39 PM   #1
CASHBY
United_States
171
Rep
2,114
Posts

Drives: E90 335 "done up"
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: GARAGE

iTrader: (2)

Downpipes. How Many Would Be Interested?

Whats up Gang?

Ok, So I have been searching around and going through my little network of car people to see who would want to make some downpipes for our car.

Only people right now that make DP's are SS, but they are not cheap at all...and doesnt look like anyone else is going to be releasing them anytime soon.

I have someone (and checking with few more) who would be willing to fab up some custom downpipes for my car, and wanted to see if there is a demand from everyone because we can use mine as a Jig and make some more.

The Downpipes would be WITH OUT cats. The main question is how much would everyone be willing to pay for a good set of downpipes?

I will use my car as the test queen and do some before and after DYNO runs to show the increase. I am getting a set made for my car regardless, but just wanted to see if there was enough interest from everyone else, if so I an get a bundle of them made and we can do a little group buy on them.

Let me know people... im sure a set of DP's on our car is going to make great power ....matched up with PROcede new V2.0, exhaust, etc this car is going to get close to 400whp

p.s This is not a for sure thing. I do know that I am getting a set made for my car regardless but making a bundle of them would depend on how many people would want them and how much they would go for.
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 01:43 PM   #2
Terry335
Banned
United_States
104
Rep
2,587
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Socal

iTrader: (0)

I'd be down if they are around $500-$600
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 01:48 PM   #3
CASHBY
United_States
171
Rep
2,114
Posts

Drives: E90 335 "done up"
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: GARAGE

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry335 View Post
I'd be down if they are around $500-$600
Thats what I am trying to shoot for.... of coures the first set (mine) are going to be a bit more due to the fabing and labor, but if there is a demand for more, we can just use it as a Jig and get them done cheaper.

Im trying to see how many people would want them so I can give them that number and they would let me know.
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 01:58 PM   #4
SfValley335i
Colonel
Afghanistan
167
Rep
2,409
Posts

Drives: Current:135i Sold:335i sedan
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: City of Angels

iTrader: (8)

this sounds like a great idea
How would you deal with boost spikes because of the downpipes?

Count me in for $400. For the set of pipes.
and $500 for pipes with highflow cats.

*dependant on my exh. fab guy
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 02:08 PM   #5
CASHBY
United_States
171
Rep
2,114
Posts

Drives: E90 335 "done up"
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: GARAGE

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SfValley335i View Post
this sounds like a great idea
How would you deal with boost spikes because of the downpipes?

Count me in for $400. For the set of pipes.
and $500 for pipes with highflow cats.

*dependant on my exh. fab guy
that might be a bit to cheap but we will see. high flow cats alone are way more than 100 bucks.... We will not be doing any with high flow cats.
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 02:12 PM   #6
baron
Second Lieutenant
9
Rep
212
Posts

Drives: 2011 BMW 528i
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (2)

I would pay $500 for it if there are no fitment or droning issues.
__________________
2011 BMW 528i
2009 Nissan GTR
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 02:15 PM   #7
CASHBY
United_States
171
Rep
2,114
Posts

Drives: E90 335 "done up"
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: GARAGE

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by baron View Post
I would pay $500 for it if there are no fitment or droning issues.
of course we would make the fitment good and as far as droning goes, that would depend on your exhaust setup you are running.
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 03:06 PM   #8
bnj
Banned
14
Rep
1,137
Posts

Drives: e92 335i
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Helsinki

iTrader: (0)

I am interested.

Btw, I think that it would make sense to have hi-flow cats, but after the downpipes. High flow cats further back are not really a restriction and they need to be there sooner or later to sniff clean. Working on the exhaust twice (just to add cats) is just waste of money.
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 03:08 PM   #9
Fartpimpson
Colonel
Fartpimpson's Avatar
United_States
297
Rep
2,414
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Alhambra, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 E92 335i  [0.00]
Sounds good
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 03:09 PM   #10
BoostedBMW
Moderator
BoostedBMW's Avatar
United_States
134
Rep
6,775
Posts

Drives: TiAg E92 335
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC

iTrader: (14)

Garage List
2003 S2000  [0.00]
CEA... this is just a side note, but possibly something to keep in mind. With some cars when you remove your cats and replace them with a new testpipe/downpipe you will sometimes get a horrible sounding rasp if you don't use some type resonator in place of them. I have ZERO experience with removing the cats on this car so it could very well not be an issue to even consider, but I just figured that I would throw this out there just in case. One other question. Are the downpipes on your sedan the same as the coupe or are they different?
__________________
-Michael.
Berlina Black S2000 CR is now in the garage

l 19" Rial Daytona Race l KW V2 l Eisenhaus Race Exhaust l
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 03:20 PM   #11
retrodrive
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
152
Rep
1,938
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Irvine, CA

iTrader: (8)

I am down for up to $650
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 04:17 PM   #12
CASHBY
United_States
171
Rep
2,114
Posts

Drives: E90 335 "done up"
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: GARAGE

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoostedBMW View Post
CEA... this is just a side note, but possibly something to keep in mind. With some cars when you remove your cats and replace them with a new testpipe/downpipe you will sometimes get a horrible sounding rasp if you don't use some type resonator in place of them. I have ZERO experience with removing the cats on this car so it could very well not be an issue to even consider, but I just figured that I would throw this out there just in case. One other question. Are the downpipes on your sedan the same as the coupe or are they different?
Yea, the rasp sound you usualy get from N/A cars. on a turbo car you will get more of a deap throaty sound, but I also have not done it on this car but we will find out soon.

Im pretty sure the DP's are the same from the sedan to the coupe.
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 04:19 PM   #13
PresaMat
Major
PresaMat's Avatar
United_States
35
Rep
1,169
Posts

Drives: 67 GT500,69 Boss 429, 335i
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Houston,TX

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Im down price/dyno dependant. Hopefully there will be no issues with the o2 sensor... or at least a way to get around it.
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 04:26 PM   #14
e.n335
Moderator
e.n335's Avatar
Austria
282
Rep
4,481
Posts

Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Switzerland, ZH

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CEA 3 View Post
Whats up Gang?

Ok, So I have been searching around and going through my little network of car people to see who would want to make some downpipes for our car.

Only people right now that make DP's are SS, but they are not cheap at all...and doesnt look like anyone else is going to be releasing them anytime soon.

I have someone (and checking with few more) who would be willing to fab up some custom downpipes for my car, and wanted to see if there is a demand from everyone because we can use mine as a Jig and make some more.

The Downpipes would be WITH OUT cats. The main question is how much would everyone be willing to pay for a good set of downpipes?

I will use my car as the test queen and do some before and after DYNO runs to show the increase. I am getting a set made for my car regardless, but just wanted to see if there was enough interest from everyone else, if so I an get a bundle of them made and we can do a little group buy on them.

Let me know people... im sure a set of DP's on our car is going to make great power ....matched up with PROcede new V2.0, exhaust, etc this car is going to get close to 400whp

p.s This is not a for sure thing. I do know that I am getting a set made for my car regardless but making a bundle of them would depend on how many people would want them and how much they would go for.
Copy the SS Pipes ...
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 04:27 PM   #15
CASHBY
United_States
171
Rep
2,114
Posts

Drives: E90 335 "done up"
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: GARAGE

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter View Post
Copy the SS Pipes ...
it would be nice, but I dont want to spend 2500 bucks on their pipe to copy them. ahahah.
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 04:28 PM   #16
CASHBY
United_States
171
Rep
2,114
Posts

Drives: E90 335 "done up"
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: GARAGE

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by PresaMat View Post
Im down price/dyno dependant. Hopefully there will be no issues with the o2 sensor... or at least a way to get around it.

That is our Main Concern. Hopefully Shiv has a map to bypass it. If it going to through a CEL.
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 04:34 PM   #17
PresaMat
Major
PresaMat's Avatar
United_States
35
Rep
1,169
Posts

Drives: 67 GT500,69 Boss 429, 335i
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Houston,TX

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
CEA... its not as much a CEL im worried about as it messing with the AFR... schneid was having AFR issues so hopefully its not related.
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 04:35 PM   #18
BoostedBMW
Moderator
BoostedBMW's Avatar
United_States
134
Rep
6,775
Posts

Drives: TiAg E92 335
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC

iTrader: (14)

Garage List
2003 S2000  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by CEA 3 View Post
Yea, the rasp sound you usualy get from N/A cars. on a turbo car you will get more of a deap throaty sound, but I also have not done it on this car but we will find out soon.

Im pretty sure the DP's are the same from the sedan to the coupe.
I think you are right , I had zero rasp with my catless turbo s2k, but on my bro's 350z it sounded horrible. Hmm... so if the downpipes are the same, what is different about the rest of the exhaust since a lot of companies say that some exhausts are only for a coupe or sedan. Next thing thta i'm thinking about is how much of a PITA is the install going to be. I haven't even crawled under the new car yet, I have to check it out, but i'm guessing that it will be tight working where the turbos are.
__________________
-Michael.
Berlina Black S2000 CR is now in the garage

l 19" Rial Daytona Race l KW V2 l Eisenhaus Race Exhaust l
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 04:39 PM   #19
CASHBY
United_States
171
Rep
2,114
Posts

Drives: E90 335 "done up"
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: GARAGE

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by PresaMat View Post
CEA... its not as much a CEL im worried about as it messing with the AFR... schneid was having AFR issues so hopefully its not related.
hmmm if he can chime in that would be great. did he have the SS DP's on his car?
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 04:40 PM   #20
CASHBY
United_States
171
Rep
2,114
Posts

Drives: E90 335 "done up"
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: GARAGE

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoostedBMW View Post
I think you are right , I had zero rasp with my catless turbo s2k, but on my bro's 350z it sounded horrible. Hmm... so if the downpipes are the same, what is different about the rest of the exhaust since a lot of companies say that some exhausts are only for a coupe or sedan. Next thing thta i'm thinking about is how much of a PITA is the install going to be. I haven't even crawled under the new car yet, I have to check it out, but i'm guessing that it will be tight working where the turbos are.
yea, I have owned many turbo cars and it actually sounds more throaty with a a bigger DP and no cats.

On my Big Turbo A4 it sounded insane.
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 04:44 PM   #21
e.n335
Moderator
e.n335's Avatar
Austria
282
Rep
4,481
Posts

Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Switzerland, ZH

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CEA 3 View Post
it would be nice, but I dont want to spend 2500 bucks on their pipe to copy them. ahahah.
1 SS $ 2.500
9 1:1 replicas $ 500 / each $ 4.500

Total $ 7.000

= $ 700 for each of those pipes. I would be down.
Appreciate 0
      06-06-2007, 05:30 PM   #22
mingrygt
scrapper on dubz
0
Rep
28
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: bay area

iTrader: (0)

I'll buy a set of catless. let me know when there available.
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:18 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST