COBB Stage 2, V301, Aggressive

Motastic · 04-11-2012, 10:31 AM

I upgraded to stage 2 aggressive on Cobb after getting my DP's put in. I have V301, but to be quite honest, I dont feel like the car is that much faster.

I have

-VRSF 3" Dp's
-Stett CAI
-ER CP and TIAL Bov

I mean am I missing something or its not that much bump in power?

Theoretically, how many gains are we supposed to have from stage 1 to stage 2?

RnmEvo9 · 04-11-2012, 10:34 AM

When you bump it up to Stage 2+ aggressive, you will feel the difference.

Bash · 04-11-2012, 10:38 AM

slight improvement over Stage1, mid to higher rpm is where it differs. 1 or 1.5degrees increase in timing, around 15-25 WHP extra.

Bash · 04-11-2012, 10:39 AM

Try the beta V4.00 maps

E90SoFlo · 04-11-2012, 10:40 AM

Yeah stage 1 to stage 2 wasn't what I thought it would be either.

Stage 2+ on the other hand made me smile pretty big. Remember its only 20-30 whp games each mod now, unlike the 60+ gain you got from a tune.

Buy a FMIC your car will run better and you will have a big smile.

marv85 · 04-11-2012, 11:04 AM

DPs add 20-30whp when you go to stage2+. stage1 to stage2+ is a nice increase in power!

but I do think that DPs are a must have mod when tuning to reduce heat buildup and help your turbos exhale better

Rob@Cobb · 04-11-2012, 02:27 PM

Agree on all counts. Try the Stage 2 v4.01 in beta and/or get a FMIC for Stage 2+.

Cheers,
Rob

b00sted4v · 04-11-2012, 03:27 PM

i ran 13.6 bone stock first time running 335xi
installed cobb tune stage 1 ran it again ended up running 12.9 first run
.7 of a second off just a cobb flash tune no other mods.

COBB FTW!!

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 04-11-2012, 03:32 PM

The real power will come back with the FMIC. I really recommend an FMIC before dp's, especially in hotter climates. How are your IAT's? It must be hot in texas.

scorpnaz7 · 04-11-2012, 03:44 PM

What are the approximate boost targets for stage 1 sports vs stage 2 sport? I'm at around 13psi on both and I would like to see if this is what everyone else has as well.

gaifaun · 04-11-2012, 04:12 PM

Iirc, stage 1+ is just as good as stage 2 in terms of power, and feel, if not better?

marv85 · 04-11-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gaifaun

Iirc, stage 1+ is just as good as stage 2 in terms of power, and feel, if not better?

Actually stage 1+ has power than stage 2

Bash · 04-12-2012, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpnaz7

What are the approximate boost targets for stage 1 sports vs stage 2 sport? I'm at around 13psi on both and I would like to see if this is what everyone else has as well.

Yeah thats correct, timing is where it differs.

08-335 · 04-13-2012, 12:24 PM

when i switched from stage 1 to stage 2, at first i felt like i didn't notice much.

Once i buried the peddle though, i noticed the difference immediately.

The car just never stops, I mean I passed 100mph and before i knew it i was at 140, 150, 160. I was more than impressed.

I only use the aggressive stock throttle maps an am running the v401 map now.

Regards,

rudebwoi · 04-13-2012, 05:05 PM

I just installed my Cobb with stage 2 with vrsf dps and Cobb on v401. It didn't initially feel faster but when I look at the speedo 140 creeps up very quickly. I'm coming from a Jb+ and just the smoothness of the Cobb makes so much difference with power delivery it feels slower...

If that makes sense.

Motastic · 04-14-2012, 09:09 PM

well I guess I need to start investing in a FMIC than now.

I heard the beta 4xx maps have issues. someone said the 4.0.1 is giving issues and 4.0 is better and blah blah blah

what are your individual opinions

TOS_335i · 04-16-2012, 01:33 PM

I just got done installing my downpipes and FMIC...

I was running stage 1 agressive, and just switched over to stage 2+FMIC aggressive (v3.01)... It's an impressive jump in power! I'm waiting for the final v4 maps to come out before I switch over.

BMWsky · 04-16-2012, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motastic

well I guess I need to start investing in a FMIC than now.

I heard the beta 4xx maps have issues. someone said the 4.0.1 is giving issues and 4.0 is better and blah blah blah

what are your individual opinions

I threw the torque converter code with 4.00 on IJEOS. 4.01 is running smoothly without issue...2+ is a blast.

AU335i · 04-16-2012, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motastic

well I guess I need to start investing in a FMIC than now.

I heard the beta 4xx maps have issues. someone said the 4.0.1 is giving issues and 4.0 is better and blah blah blah

what are your individual opinions

my timing curve for v.401 looked really really strange...however it definitely made power over v301... waiting to see if the finalized v.4xx look the same or not.

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Motastic Major 89 Rep 1,356 Posts Drives: E92 335! Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Arlington, TX iTrader: (4)	COBB Stage 2, V301, Aggressive - Do you feel faster? I upgraded to stage 2 aggressive on Cobb after getting my DP's put in. I have V301, but to be quite honest, I dont feel like the car is that much faster. I have -VRSF 3" Dp's -Stett CAI -ER CP and TIAL Bov I mean am I missing something or its not that much bump in power? Theoretically, how many gains are we supposed to have from stage 1 to stage 2?
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Bash First Lieutenant 8 Rep 395 Posts Drives: E92-335i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Beirut iTrader: (0)	slight improvement over Stage1, mid to higher rpm is where it differs. 1 or 1.5degrees increase in timing, around 15-25 WHP extra. __________________ COBB S2+ - Mr.5 CAI, Catless DP, Catless MP, AMS FMIC.
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Bash First Lieutenant 8 Rep 395 Posts Drives: E92-335i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Beirut iTrader: (0)	Try the beta V4.00 maps __________________ COBB S2+ - Mr.5 CAI, Catless DP, Catless MP, AMS FMIC.
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E90SoFlo Banned 217 Rep 2,669 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Naples, FL iTrader: (9)	Yeah stage 1 to stage 2 wasn't what I thought it would be either. Stage 2+ on the other hand made me smile pretty big. Remember its only 20-30 whp games each mod now, unlike the 60+ gain you got from a tune. Buy a FMIC your car will run better and you will have a big smile.
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marv85 Colonel 71 Rep 2,626 Posts Drives: '07 E92 335i MT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (7)	DPs add 20-30whp when you go to stage2+. stage1 to stage2+ is a nice increase in power! but I do think that DPs are a must have mod when tuning to reduce heat buildup and help your turbos exhale better __________________ '18 F80 M3 Comp 6MT - Stock '07 E92 335i 6MT- HP650, inlets/outlets, ER FMIC, VRSF CP, LPFP stg2, CSF rad, 'is Aux rad, ER OC, Ohlins, M control arms, eibach front sway bar. '05 C55 AMG SOLD - '22 Tesla M3P \| '10 E92 335i M, 6MT \| '07 E90 335i, PTF COBB E50, FBO, HFS4
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Rob@Cobb Lieutenant 41 Rep 468 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 335i ///M Pack Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Agree on all counts. Try the Stage 2 v4.01 in beta and/or get a FMIC for Stage 2+. Cheers, Rob
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b00sted4v Private First Class 7 Rep 116 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi Join Date: May 2011 Location: boston,ma iTrader: (2)	i ran 13.6 bone stock first time running 335xi installed cobb tune stage 1 ran it again ended up running 12.9 first run .7 of a second off just a cobb flash tune no other mods. COBB FTW!!
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Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3474 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	The real power will come back with the FMIC. I really recommend an FMIC before dp's, especially in hotter climates. How are your IAT's? It must be hot in texas. Last edited by Jeff@TopGearSolutions; 04-11-2012 at 03:45 PM..
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scorpnaz7 Private First Class 8 Rep 186 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Diego iTrader: (2)	What are the approximate boost targets for stage 1 sports vs stage 2 sport? I'm at around 13psi on both and I would like to see if this is what everyone else has as well.
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gaifaun Major 218 Rep 1,134 Posts Drives: E90 335i LCI Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver iTrader: (14) Garage List 2010 E90 335i LCI [10.00]	Iirc, stage 1+ is just as good as stage 2 in terms of power, and feel, if not better? __________________ I can help with Coding in Vancouver. PM me
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08-335 Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW 335i xdrive Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (0)	when i switched from stage 1 to stage 2, at first i felt like i didn't notice much. Once i buried the peddle though, i noticed the difference immediately. The car just never stops, I mean I passed 100mph and before i knew it i was at 140, 150, 160. I was more than impressed. I only use the aggressive stock throttle maps an am running the v401 map now. Regards, __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e92-Agency Power DP's, Cobb stage 2, BMS DCI, BMW Performance Wheels -Previously Owned- 2005 Volvo S60R (SOLD)-3.5" downpipe, 3" straight pipe all the way out, IPD custom tune, IPD Intake, AEM Methanol Injection Kit, Bell Intercooler, custom 4-guage piller pod.....best 1/4: 12.9 @ 111
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Motastic Major 89 Rep 1,356 Posts Drives: E92 335! Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Arlington, TX iTrader: (4)	well I guess I need to start investing in a FMIC than now. I heard the beta 4xx maps have issues. someone said the 4.0.1 is giving issues and 4.0 is better and blah blah blah what are your individual opinions
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