How much power can a N54 make without meth.

Aries932 · 05-08-2012, 12:51 AM

Alright so I have apparently sparked a bit of debate on YouTube and would like to clarify something.

How much power can a N54 create without meth.

My answer was basically 350-360whp, which translates to 410-420hp.

With just JB4 and race fuel 370whp, which translate to about 440hp

With full bolt ons, JB4, and race fuel I remember seeing some dynos pulling 400whp.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

eyim1988 · 05-08-2012, 12:56 AM

About right

Beemw335 · 05-08-2012, 01:00 AM

400whp give or take s few hp is the most without meth, and thats with good gas, not crappy 91 octane.

ETS Michael · 05-08-2012, 01:03 AM

Dyno Graphs

http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/E...p-Dyno-Sheets/

400whp.

aflatau · 05-08-2012, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETS Michael

Dyno Graphs

http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/E...p-Dyno-Sheets/

400whp.

Off topic but I have sent you a couple pm"s but got no response..

type rrr · 05-08-2012, 06:54 AM

and that whp running at about 18-19 psi....is it safe to run that boost witout meth ?

benzy89 · 05-08-2012, 09:32 AM

FBO + supporting mods (FMIC, DP, Intake, upgraded Charge Pipe & DVs/BOVs) you'll prob see 390-400 hp/ 420-430 tq depending quality of pump gas (good 93) + the tune/boost set up

bootay · 05-08-2012, 09:50 AM

JB4 - FBO - 390rwhp/425rwtq
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15077

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 05-08-2012, 10:05 AM

JB4 plus FBO you should be in the 400 range depending on what pump gas you are running. If 91 probably a little shy of 400rw. If on race gas and FBO you should see north of 400. Also really depends on the dyno as well.

The above are assuming a DynoJet.

Mike

skim7x · 05-08-2012, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benzy89

FBO + supporting mods (FMIC, DP, Intake, upgraded Charge Pipe & DVs/BOVs) you'll prob see 390-400 hp/ 420-430 tq depending quality of pump gas (good 93) + the tune/boost set up

You don't need charge pipe or dv/bov if your stock components are holding boost without a problem

I'm getting 370rwhp with Cobb S2+S, no meth on mustang dyno... you convert that to Dynojet and it's about 420rwhp (12% difference). You convert that to crank hp and it's about 490hp.

References used:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-f...o-dynojet.html
http://www.mk5cortinaestate.co.uk/calculator4.php

benzy89 · 05-08-2012, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skim7x

You don't need charge pipe or dv/bov if your stock components are holding boost without a problem

I'm getting 370rwhp with Cobb S2+S, no meth on mustang dyno, so on dynojet, closer to 400rwhp

You don't need them, but you'll want them on there when you're running high boost & pushing the car hard (drag/autocross/excessive highway pulls)....

dont wanna go limp when its your time to shine

ETS Michael · 05-08-2012, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aflatau

Off topic but I have sent you a couple pm"s but got no response..

vendorship should be up today and i can respond to pm's. Email me and i will hit you up asap.

Michael@extremeturbosystems.com

pcmacdr · 05-08-2012, 11:24 AM

Tune:

JB 4 - Alpha Firmware 2-7-2012
BMS DCI

Fuel:

91 Octane - 40% ( California and there low octane, BOO !! )
E85 - 60%

FYI - Been running 50/50 for the past six months with no issues

Read more about results

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15060

Video

rdeterman · 05-08-2012, 11:34 AM

we need more guys to dyno these e85 mix's to get more data... these results look very good!

Fernflex · 05-08-2012, 12:02 PM

I had 393 whp fbo without meth on 93 oct

secretsquirrel · 05-08-2012, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benzy89

dont wanna go limp when its your time to shine

Very wise words and applicable to many facets of life.

aflatau · 05-08-2012, 12:14 PM

mods in sig 70/30 mix of e85

RnmEvo9 · 05-08-2012, 01:04 PM

Don't know how much power I am making, but I can consistently trap 116-117mph in the 1/4 mile with just Cobb Stage 2+, intercooler and downpipes on pump gas.

BQTuning · 05-08-2012, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aries932

Alright so I have apparently sparked a bit of debate on YouTube and would like to clarify something.

How much power can a N54 create without meth.

My answer was basically 350-360whp, which translates to 410-420hp.

With just JB4 and race fuel 370whp, which translate to about 440hp

With full bolt ons, JB4, and race fuel I remember seeing some dynos pulling 400whp.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

I think this all depends on the tuner. I am making significantly more power(thats all I can say about this) without DPs on a Mustang Dyno, so I can imagine what a DynoJet will show.

However, my advantage is that my tune was custom tuned specifically to my vehicle mods and will be retuned again when DPs go on.

besfort · 05-08-2012, 02:12 PM

Is there a map on procede yet for e85 I have the same car btw just procede and love your results

Quote:

Originally Posted by skysurfer_535i

Tune:

JB 4 - Alpha Firmware 2-7-2012
BMS DCI

Fuel:

91 Octane - 40% ( California and there low octane, BOO !! )
E85 - 60%

FYI - Been running 50/50 for the past six months with no issues

Read more about results

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15060

Video

pcmacdr · 05-08-2012, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by besfort

Is there a map on procede yet for e85 I have the same car btw just procede and love your results

Don't know about proceed, but thanx

I was actually shocked

when I did the first run

Yeah E85 FTW

Not sure about long term, but for now it has NOT been as issue

Sleeper · 05-08-2012, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuraQ

I think this all depends on the tuner. I am making significantly more power(thats all I can say about this) without DPs on a Mustang Dyno, so I can imagine what a DynoJet will show.

However, my advantage is that my tune was custom tuned specifically to my vehicle mods and will be retuned again when DPs go on.

No wai bro! Tell us one more time about your super secret Renntech tune!

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Beemw335 Colonel 62 Rep 2,013 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: My car is my home iTrader: (2)	400whp give or take s few hp is the most without meth, and thats with good gas, not crappy 91 octane.
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ETS Michael Major 80 Rep 1,155 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA iTrader: (4)	Dyno Graphs http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/E...p-Dyno-Sheets/ 400whp.
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type rrr Second Lieutenant 12 Rep 232 Posts Drives: 335i coupe Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: montreal canada iTrader: (0)	and that whp running at about 18-19 psi....is it safe to run that boost witout meth ? __________________ 2007 335i coupe AT-- I80AS--FBO -stock turbos--COBB v402 beta stage 2 + ATR-- NITTO'S 275-40-17 NT05R --- 12.025 @ 120 mph -- full weight Last edited by type rrr; 05-08-2012 at 10:56 AM..
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benzy89 Banned 83 Rep 2,396 Posts Drives: '08 E90 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Northern NJ iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [7.50]	FBO + supporting mods (FMIC, DP, Intake, upgraded Charge Pipe & DVs/BOVs) you'll prob see 390-400 hp/ 420-430 tq depending quality of pump gas (good 93) + the tune/boost set up
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 5044 Rep 116,174 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	JB4 plus FBO you should be in the 400 range depending on what pump gas you are running. If 91 probably a little shy of 400rw. If on race gas and FBO you should see north of 400. Also really depends on the dyno as well. The above are assuming a DynoJet. Mike
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