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      07-02-2012, 10:05 AM   #1
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To all the JB4 + E85 users

Question for all the JB4 + E85 with new map 5 users around..
On an e92 335i with JB4 new map 5, DCI and 30/70 mix of E85/93, is this enough to beat a stock E92 M3?

The car really pulls with that new map and E85, I've seem a couple of cars doing around 380/390 whp with the same settings in the forum, no DPs. The stock M3 on the dyno puts down around 340/350 to the wheels I believe.
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Question for all the JB4 + E85 with new map 5 users around..
On an e92 335i with JB4 new map 5, DCI and 30/70 mix of E85/93, is this enough to beat a stock E92 M3?

The car really pulls with that new map and E85, I've seem a couple of cars doing around 380/390 whp with the same settings in the forum, no DPs. The stock M3 on the dyno puts down around 340/350 to the wheels I believe.
Thanks for the input!
LOL M3 wouldnt stand a chance.
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Question for all the JB4 + E85 with new map 5 users around..
On an e92 335i with JB4 new map 5, DCI and 30/70 mix of E85/93, is this enough to beat a stock E92 M3?

The car really pulls with that new map and E85, I've seem a couple of cars doing around 380/390 whp with the same settings in the forum, no DPs. The stock M3 on the dyno puts down around 340/350 to the wheels I believe.
Thanks for the input!
In addition to the HP you're forgetting about the absolute mountain of torque advantage the N54 has over the S65. A stock M3 would absolutely get it's headlights sucked out
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You should be able take a stock M3 with 93 octane running map 1 only.
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Yeah i beat an e92 m3 a couple weeks back without any e85 just map 5 and 93. If i had e85 it would have been a lot more fun...
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Thanks, smile on my face now!
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lol smile that your might be faster in a straight line, but still lack on every other department.

take him down! and post a video!
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The stock M3 on the dyno puts down around 340/350 to the wheels I believe.
Thanks for the input!
uhhh no. I don't think i've ever seen a stock m3 do more than 300 wtq in stock trim. our cars have just a ton more torque than these cars.

want to say most stock m3's dyno around 330 whp/250 wtq.
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uhhh no. I don't think i've ever seen a stock m3 do more than 300 wtq in stock trim. our cars have just a ton more torque than these cars.

want to say most stock m3's dyno around 330 whp/250 wtq.
I thought the exact same thing when I read that but I think he means 340350hp not 340hp/350tq.
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uhhh no. I don't think i've ever seen a stock m3 do more than 300 wtq in stock trim. our cars have just a ton more torque than these cars.

want to say most stock m3's dyno around 330 whp/250 wtq.
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Question for all the JB4 + E85 with new map 5 users around..
On an e92 335i with JB4 new map 5, DCI and 30/70 mix of E85/93, is this enough to beat a stock E92 M3?

The car really pulls with that new map and E85, I've seem a couple of cars doing around 380/390 whp with the same settings in the forum, no DPs. The stock M3 on the dyno puts down around 340/350 to the wheels I believe.
Thanks for the input!
When e85 support first started for n54s i beat my friends e92 by 4 cars with those same mods...i cant wait 2 run it back with the new map 5
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Just wondering you guys, When you're running e85 with your tune, do you ever get some hesitations in 3rd gear? I read someone say it is the system switching from closed loop to open loop fueling. Either way, whenever this hesitation happens, it usually kicks on all of my fans in my car, and when I pull up before I turn it off, it sounds basically like a large air conditioning.

Are you guys seeing any of these signs with your tune? Just curious
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don't worry u can pull on a FBO m3!! with the new map5
i suggest to run vp109 on map 7
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don't worry u can pull on a FBO m3!! with the new map5
i suggest to run vp109 on map 7
I've tried the race gas but when it cost around $100 for a full tank, I usually think about it twice before I do it as I use my car everyday to go to work. With the 93/E85 mix it's regular price!
Just hoping the fuel pump, injectors and fuel line will last..
Happy about all the posts above, thanks guys, very much, I will be more confident now if I end up next to an M3 at the stop light
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You would def have no problem running a stock M3 lol. Just like another member said you would beat a stock M3, no doubt. Any N54 with a JB4 tune even on map 1 is going to be faster than a stock m3. If your running map 5 with newest software with a 30% E85 mix/93 you will BLOW it away!! No questions asked. Game over for Mr. M3
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You should be able take a stock M3 with 93 octane running map 1 only.
can a 335i on map 1 really beat a e92 m3 ? its hard to believe that
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can a 335i on map 1 really beat a e92 m3 ? its hard to believe that
R u serious? I destroyed a e92 m3 that had exhaust at the very least on the hwy last year. They are slow as hell. Map 1 with No e85 just stock is more than enough.
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I can't wait for the new twin turbo m3's next yr. Should be one heck of a car. But up until then all n/a m3 owners have had a nice view of our tail lights on the street
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can a 335i on map 1 really beat a e92 m3 ? its hard to believe that
No 335 can not beat. 335 FBO ride +/- like stock M3 with DCT.
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No 335 can not beat. 335 FBO ride +/- like stock M3 with DCT.
No it not like stock m3. It good mount slower.
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No it not like stock m3. It good mount slower.
It has fast!
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I can't wait for the new twin turbo m3's next yr. Should be one heck of a car. But up until then all n/a m3 owners have had a nice view of our tail lights on the street
june 2014. two years away.
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