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      07-07-2012, 06:58 PM   #1
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hellllllllo!! So heres the situation.. I found an extremely nice e92 335i (09) with low miles (about 24k miles) but it has "frame/unibody" damage. The car has been fully repaired and honestly looks great..i mean i can't even tell where the accident was. BUT...unfortunately there was an accident and according to the CarFax, a "severe" one. Airbags did deploy. The seller is fully disclosing this info and is selling the car at an extremely discounted price. Is it a go or no go..(ultimately, i'm gonna make my own decision but i just wanna see what more people have to say about this)

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I would personally not buy a car that had frame damage. It will never be "right" and selling it later will be a nightmare. There are plenty of cars out there without damage and for the right price, just be patient and watch autotrader, local ads, cars.com.
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I would personally not buy a car that had frame damage. It will never be "right" and selling it later will be a nightmare. There are plenty of cars out there without damage and for the right price, just be patient and watch autotrader, local ads, cars.com.
very true. I'm not really looking to resell the car..probably just gonna drive it until it shits the bed. I feel that the discounted price makes up for it
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very true. I'm not really looking to resell the car..probably just gonna drive it until it shits the bed. I feel that the discounted price makes up for it
Do you have kids? I do and that there made my decision easy to not touch a previously damaged car. I know there are excellent shops out there but this is one car I would not want that's had major collision damage.

Very few of us keep a car till the bolts fall off. Resale value meant alot to me as I keep a car maybe 2 years at most then start lookin' again lol.
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very true. I'm not really looking to resell the car..probably just gonna drive it until it shits the bed. I feel that the discounted price makes up for it
Do you have kids? I do and that there made my decision easy to not touch a previously damaged car. I know there are excellent shops out there but this is one car I would not want that's had major collision damage.

Very few of us keep a car till the bolts fall off. Resale value meant alot to me as I keep a car maybe 2 years at most then start lookin' again lol.
No kids..thank God lol im only 19...that would suck man. Yeah very good point..had my e90 for 1 year and decided to switch stuff up..but I've always wanted an e92 335 so that's the car I'm gonna stick with until the frame falls apart haha. I'm not really worried about the whole frame thing. If it drives fine, I'm cool with it

Edit: for some reason it shows no accident whatsoever on autocheck (I was like the hell?)
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Two words for you fella:
HELL NO.
I would keep looking my friend, damage to the frame is just bad news and just not worth it IMO.
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Two words for you fella:
HELL NO.
I would keep looking my friend, damage to the frame is just bad news and just not worth it IMO.
Lol no simpler way to put it. You guys are making me wanna change my mind
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Two words for you fella:
HELL NO.
I would keep looking my friend, damage to the frame is just bad news and just not worth it IMO.
Lol no simpler way to put it. You guys are making me wanna change my mind
Just want you to be happy with it- you never know what kind of cover-up is taking place these days.

Did you take it for a nice long test drive, maybe have an independent body shop you know of and trust look it over carefully?

If the seller is worth their salt they will understand and comply. Let us know what happens brother!
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Two words for you fella:
HELL NO.
I would keep looking my friend, damage to the frame is just bad news and just not worth it IMO.
Lol no simpler way to put it. You guys are making me wanna change my mind
Just want you to be happy with it- you never know what kind of cover-up is taking place these days.

Did you take it for a nice long test drive, maybe have an independent body shop you know of and trust look it over carefully?

If the seller is worth their salt they will understand and comply. Let us know what happens brother!
Yeah that's true. Well here's the deal..im a dealer and i buy most of my cars at the auction. I usually get really good deals on really nice cars. This car is being sold by BMW financial services. The cool thing about being in the car business is that my dad owns his own body/mechanic shop and has been doing it for his whole life. So I usually find the deals, and he inspects them. Pretty good teamwork if you ask me ! I will keep you guys updated! Hopefully if I do buy it, it's not a piece of shit :
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Brother if you are a dealer, you already knew the answer to your question. No offense whatsoever but why even bother with a previously wrecked car if you can go to the auction and buy one with a clear title for a wholesale price?

Even at a "discounted price" this has me scratching my head.
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Cars involved in an accident, where the airbags are deployed, are not repaired here... Insurances pronounce them as 'financially totaled'.

They are shredded or sold of for parts or to east european countries.

I would NEVER EVER buy a car like this!!!!!
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Brother if you are a dealer, you already knew the answer to your question. No offense whatsoever but why even bother with a previously wrecked car if you can go to the auction and buy one with a clear title for a wholesale price?

Even at a "discounted price" this has me scratching my head.
That's a good question...I have yet to find an e92 335i with a 6MT in the auction. I've also been looking for 2 months. I found this one and just thought about it. I don't think I'll buy it but I mean it is a possibility.
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Cars involved in an accident, where the airbags are deployed, are not repaired here... Insurances pronounce them as 'financially totaled'.

They are shredded or sold of for parts or to east european countries.

I would NEVER EVER buy a car like this!!!!!
Hmmm maybe I'll buy the thing and send it back to the motherland Lebanon
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That's a good question...I have yet to find an e92 335i with a 6MT in the auction. I've also been looking for 2 months. I found this one and just thought about it. I don't think I'll buy it but I mean it is a possibility.
Autotrader is your friend. Lots of people selling and if they have a manual, chances are they are having a little more trouble unloading it. You being a dealer can make them a cash offer and probably get a steal. I found mine there from a dealer in NJ and got my 10 for the price of most 08's. I took a risk but it arrived clean and under warranty for 2 more years. Got it for 5k under book and 2k under what they sell for at Mannheim.

With the economy the way it is, the buyer is in control. Search Autotrader within 300 miles of you and see what magic you find!
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Lebanon??? Thats Asia my friend or as you guys say: the middle east...

Eastern Europe would be Poland, czech rep, romania,...

But nice try
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I searched for 3 min and found these. You can usually buy a car from a dealer if you are a dealer, just ask if they will consider wholesaling it out.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...24863618&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...19612390&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...22437513&Log=0
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Lebanon??? Thats Asia my friend or as you guys say: the middle east...

Eastern Europe would be Poland, czech rep, romania,...

But nice try
Yeah I know mannnnn..but they dont care in Lebanon whether there's an accident or not so I just threw it in the European category. Don't hate on us Lebanese peoples man
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If "extremely discounted price" means dirt ass cheap, go for it. Drive it around, enjoy it, and if it fails, part it out and recoup some of your losses. Plus, your father is a mechanic, I just read a thread where a guy bought and restored four 1 series Ms with some having heavy frame damage. So have your dad repair any quarks the car may have.
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Yeah I know mannnnn..but they dont care in Lebanon whether there's an accident or not so I just threw it in the European category. Don't hate on us Lebanese peoples man
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Oh man. I am a car dealer and when cars are marked frame damage/unibody you're knowingly buying a JUNK CAR. The reason they're selling it so cheap is because people don't want to deal with court and stuff. Remember, you get what you paid for. I ship cars to Lebanon (mostly bmw's) and my buyers DO KNOW what CARFAX and FRAME DAMAGE IS.
Don't try to fool anyone. And please, do me a favor... According to the federal law you are required to notify the buyer about the frame damage and prior accident history.
Listen what others are saying.
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Oh man. I am a car dealer and when cars are marked frame damage/unibody you're knowingly buying a JUNK CAR. The reason they're selling it so cheap is because people don't want to deal with court and stuff. Remember, you get what you paid for. I ship cars to Lebanon (mostly bmw's) and my buyers DO KNOW what CARFAX and FRAME DAMAGE IS.
Don't try to fool anyone. And please, do me a favor... According to the federal law you are required to notify the buyer about the frame damage and prior accident history.
Listen what others are saying.
Touché. You guys have to understand something...I don't buy junk damaged cars and sell them to anyone. Honestly, I've never even bought a car that's been in an accident. This one just happened to show up and seems like a good deal for MYSELF.

And yes we are a big big family
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then go for it
I know some horror stories about "wreckedt" vehicles, but I won't share them. Don't mean to scare you or anything lol Who knows, maybe it is a good car and well worth what you are willing to pay.
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